What to do with Level 3 - Parramatta Leagues Club

[fish eel]

Agree that they need an alternative plan in place, and need to state it.

But one way of countering the presumed drop in income from poker machine players if the club/3rd floor is reconfigured and the league part of the club's name is remembered again is simply to.... reduce expenditure.

I believe as the club's income grew with it's foray into mega-numbers of poker machines, so did it's expenditure and plans - on things like renovations and removing the hall of honour and making the place look all swish for... no result?

The club survived, and I'd say thrived for years based on being a club not a casino, and being based largely around rugby league, but still with some added non-league things (a moderate amount of pokies in the corner rooms of the club; the member sub-groups like the bowls club, fi9shing club, darts club). There are other ideas just waiting to happen like turning Sterlos into a decent rocking sports bar, rather than a stale bar with one big screen and no ambience; and getting the auditorium to turn some revenue again like it did in the nightclub days.

If the club and those running it simply don't get as greedy about expanding and redecorating it as they have been in the last 8-10 years - and most of the "improvements" have been pitched for the sole benefit of the pokies players anyway - then there is not as big a need for an alternate plan for the drop in income, so long as the club stops being silly and spending its money to turn itself more and more into a casino.

I'll throw this into the mix Barty (hopefully without referencing anyone ;-) )

The need would not be to simply counter a drop in pokie revenue, but to counter and then increase revenue as well - keeping in mind the leagues club last financial year recorded a loss after football expenses.

The last annual report showed income was already declining.

It is a bit of a concern to me in the current climate to hear people talking about a shift away from our current income base (which I'm no fan of but thats the card dealt in 2009, no use looking back). I believe we should be looking at adding to our income base, rather than making changes that reduce one pie and simply replace it with another....

 

[eelz47]

http://parraleagues.com.au/

Welcome to the Parramatta Leagues Club Group
Parramatta Leagues Club is committed to and constantly working towards providing members and guests with the very best in facilities, services and entertainment.

When you belong to the Parramatta Leagues Club Group, you enjoy membership to Parramatta Leagues Club and Vikings Sports Club in Dundas.

Both Clubs provide great dining facilities and exclusive members’ promotions.

Visit us today and see for yourself why it pays to be a member of the Parramatta Leagues Club Group.

Our Mission
To ensure Parramatta Leagues Club is the most professional and progressive multi-purpose hospitality venue in Greater Western Sydney, by providing excellence in service and amenities for all members.


this is funny​

 

[eelz47]

they do a poker every thursday night, just seen

 

[bartman]

I'll throw this into the mix Barty (hopefully without referencing anyone ;-) )

The need would not be to simply counter a drop in pokie revenue, but to counter and then increase revenue as well - keeping in mind the leagues club last financial year recorded a loss after football expenses.

The last annual report showed income was already declining.

It is a bit of a concern to me in the current climate to hear people talking about a shift away from our current income base (which I'm no fan of but thats the card dealt in 2009, no use looking back). I believe we should be looking at adding to our income base, rather than making changes that reduce one pie and simply replace it with another....

Fair point to throw into the mix. I guess for all we've put into the pokies, and changing the culture of the club to maximise that, we have less than zero balance to show for it all. :?

All the expansions and upgrades of recent years have done jack all for the sports fan/members of our club. Oh wow, a balcony on Sterlos for the (hopefully diminishing) ranks of smokers, where the afternoon sun is too bright to spend time out there anyway. That's the evidence of how much it's shifted away, and the club has to work damned hard now to bring that side it's excluded back.

Junior made a good point in this thread that before/after home games he goes to the bowling club, because it gives the atmosphere he wants for a beer and some chats without going up to the top floor of a monstrous looking building before you can find a place where can get that very basic feature of a community club.

With all Fitzy's bleating about the pokies tax, I think it's obvious they knew the club's goose was cooked, and it had overextended itself and would suffer long term (through shrinkage of football/non-gambling patronage, or eventual winding back of the pokies cash cow). I think it's inevitable the club has to wind back the amount of pokies it runs, and that opens up the opportunity for a meeting space like Jess is suggesting, or the Hall of Fame space, closer to the lower levels of the club.

I agree we have to add outside revenue though - which Leabeater spoke about - and while I understand the secrecy regarding any deals that might be dependent on a change of direction/leadership at the club, they did sound like they were now busy (on a daily basis) meeting prospective future funding sources and it was very convincing.

 

[bartman]

http://parraleagues.com.au/

Welcome to the Parramatta Leagues Club Group
Parramatta Leagues Club is committed to and constantly working towards providing members and guests with the very best in facilities, services and entertainment.

When you belong to the Parramatta Leagues Club Group, you enjoy membership to Parramatta Leagues Club and Vikings Sports Club in Dundas.

Both Clubs provide great dining facilities and exclusive members’ promotions.

Visit us today and see for yourself why it pays to be a member of the Parramatta Leagues Club Group.

Our Mission
To ensure Parramatta Leagues Club is the most professional and progressive multi-purpose hospitality venue in Greater Western Sydney, by providing excellence in service and amenities for all members.


this is funny​

Makes you wonder why we bother being staying members, doesn't it? The facilities services amenities and entertainment don't really fit my expectations of a leagues club.

Oh that's right, I only stay a member because it's free, due to that get-out-of-jail revenue raising scheme of some years back (when it was more of a "leagues" "club") of offering Perpetual Membership for $100.

 

[bartman]

does anybody know why they are fixing the lift up to sterlos?

Because it's slow and old.

And probably doesn't meet the current Australian Standard for lifts? (Or the future draft Disabled Access Standards for Premises that will come into force under teh Building Code in 2009?)

 

[fish eel]

Fair point to throw into the mix. I guess for all we've put into the pokies, and changing the culture of the club to maximise that, we have less than zero balance to show for it all. :?

All the expansions and upgrades of recent years have done jack all for the sports fan/members of our club. Oh wow, a balcony on Sterlos for the (hopefully diminishing) ranks of smokers, where the afternoon sun is too bright to spend time out there anyway. That's the evidence of how much it's shifted away, and the club has to work damned hard now to bring that side it's excluded back.

Junior made a good point in this thread that before/after home games he goes to the bowling club, because it gives the atmosphere he wants for a beer and some chats without going up to the top floor of a monstrous looking building before you can find a place where can get that very basic feature of a community club.

With all Fitzy's bleating about the pokies tax, I think it's obvious they knew the club's goose was cooked, and it had overextended itself and would suffer long term (through shrinkage of football/non-gambling patronage, or eventual winding back of the pokies cash cow). I think it's inevitable the club has to wind back the amount of pokies it runs, and that opens up the opportunity for a meeting space like Jess is suggesting, or the Hall of Fame space, closer to the lower levels of the club.

I agree we have to add outside revenue though - which Leabeater spoke about - and while I understand the secrecy regarding any deals that might be dependent on a change of direction/leadership at the club, they did sound like they were now busy (on a daily basis) meeting prospective future funding sources and it was very convincing.

While that is good to hear, and I can understand that being said this far out from elections, I hope we'll be hearing more closer to the polls. A 'trust us, it's all good but we can say' wont really impress me, when, at the end of the day, we are talking about the financial viability and future of the club

 

[eelz47]

Makes you wonder why we bother being staying members, doesn't it? The facilities services amenities and entertainment don't really fit my expectations of a leagues club.

Oh that's right, I only stay a member because it's free, due to that get-out-of-jail revenue raising scheme of some years back (when it was more of a "leagues" "club") of offering Perpetual Membership for $100.

but now if you are a seasonal memebr they will give you a $10 meal voucher to renew. where is our loyalty reward? or whatever you call it???

 

[bartman]

While that is good to hear, and I can understand that being said this far out from elections, I hope we'll be hearing more closer to the polls. A 'trust us, it's all good but we can say' wont really impress me, when, at the end of the day, we are talking about the financial viability and future of the club

Having attended one of these meetings and hearing things said informally as well, I'd hazard a guess to say that things have moved along on various fronts since you last put some questions to 3P.

As you said, still plenty of time and opportunities before the election for further detail to come out to us, but some of it is likely stuff that won't go into print at the risk of the funding sources concerned not wanting to get offside should the change of direction not come through. So there's an element of us having to take opportunities to become informed ourselves, in order to be satisfied in deciding our votes.

 

[bartman]

but now if you are a seasonal memebr they will give you a $10 meal voucher to renew. where is our loyalty reward? or whatever you call it???

Exactly, there is zippo nada nil as far as I can see. And some in the club wonder why the footy people stop coming like they used to? Taken for granted for too long springs to mind.

 

[The Colonel]

Far from classing anyone as a second class citizen, it would be the football fan who gets the rough end of the pineapple as far as things go.......

The happy medium is what needs to be stressed because if the club is more open to all demographics rather than a select few it would bring a better financial outlook into place, particularly if care is taken not to alienate any of the various groups who use the club.

At the moment is wouldn't be hard to say that only one group is truly catered for.

 

[eelz47]

Far from classing anyone as a second class citizen, it would be the football fan who gets the rough end of the pineapple as far as things go.......

The happy medium is what needs to be stressed because if the club is more open to all demographics rather than a select few it would bring a better financial outlook into place, particularly if care is taken not to alienate any of the various groups who use the club.

At the moment is wouldn't be hard to say that only one group is truly catered for.

i got attacked by a dragon on friday night. talk about alienation. and one had even had a nap at the bar, and didnt get booted out:lol:

 

[Stagger eel]

Aside from the strippers, I do have one other (not quite as good) idea. The 3rd floor or part of could be used to open one of those Pokerdome poker rooms that have been opening for the last 12 - 18 months. The one at Newtown RSL attracted alot of younger people to that club and as most of them are already gambling minded no doubt they donated to the pokie fund while they were there. I've seen up to 200 people in there at a time.

yep - Newtown RSL was once one of sydney's premier live venues however it was competing with several venues within a radius of 5k's but as far as I can see there is very little in the way of live music west of Drummoyne.

 

[parra pete]

Nah but I was thinking of talking my wife into it.

:lol::lol::lol:

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=k8FlmXla0Pw

 

[fish eel]

yep - Newtown RSL was once one of sydney's premier live venues however it was competing with several venues within a radius of 5k's but as far as I can see there is very little in the way of live music west of Drummoyne.

ahhh....Goldmans. Those Ivy League kids ended up doing OK......

 

[Nikki]

First and foremost the whole place needs a paint job. Its dank and dull. Even the pokie players (including me) need a lil brightness in their lives.

Up on Level 3, I would love to see an area with comfy chairs that has Parra games playing non stop. Games dating as far back and they can find.

The TAB must come back. I am not a mad punter when it comes to that kind of gambling, but on game day I would always head up to put on FTS bets and would many others. Why is the TAB van parked out the front of the Stadium now getting all the commission? And if a person goes in to put bets on the TAB then they may also be inclinded to chuck $10 or more in the Pokies.

The game day breakfast is a great one. I have also mentioned it a few times. Not everyone sits together at games. A great way to catch up with people before hand.

Install a decent lift up to Sterlos. Then the club wouldnt be wasting money every 2 years having that one serviced. The other lift doesnt break down as much as that one does.

 

[ipswich eel]

Maybe the club could attract some of the many office workers around the area. They could hold corporate functions (eg conferences,courses, meetings etc) during the day and at night offer the other great ideas mentioned earlier. This allows level 3 to be used at all times and it attracts new people to the club who normally would not go.

 

[Twizzle]

Maybe the club could attract some of the many office workers around the area. They could hold corporate functions (eg conferences,courses, meetings etc) during the day and at night offer the other great ideas mentioned earlier. This allows level 3 to be used at all times and it attracts new people to the club who normally would not go.

good idea, functions can be profitable

something that could double as a coffee and meet up before the game is a good idea but perhaps being used once a fortnight i not that profitable

what ever they do will need to financially feasible hence have flexibility

 

[Stagger eel]

Maybe the club could attract some of the many office workers around the area. They could hold corporate functions (eg conferences,courses, meetings etc) during the day and at night offer the other great ideas mentioned earlier. This allows level 3 to be used at all times and it attracts new people to the club who normally would not go.

hey tend to do that in the Wentworth room situated accross from Cafe88 on level 2...they probably don't do it enough though.

 

[Suitman]

I thought my ears were burning this afternoon....

I recommend the 30+.

Suity