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hineyrulz

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Yet you can’t fault all of the points that Gronk raises that if addressed gets us into the Top 4.

You’ve attacked the headline comment but ignored the detail. You need to disprove the detail if you want us to believe that the headline comment is off the mark.
If If If, the fact is we lost those games.

And I would argue the Scoreline flattered us in most of them.

The Sharks and Tigers clicked off late in in two of them after running up big leads.

In those close losses I would argue we where the better side in only the Penrith and Dogs games.

We are last and on form deserve to be last.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Have a look at Gronks post, we were close in 6 of those games and with a bit of luck with could he up there in the top 4.

Pure lunacy.
Well with a bit of luck we were top four last year. Our for-and-against showed the quality of the team (top eight). This year our team is just as good IMO, but injuries (bad luck) as well as lack of last year's good luck means we are sitting in last place. That's how tight the competition is.

Our season reminds me of the Roosters in 2016. This is a team that were minor premiers the previous year. They lost RTS, Maloney and Jennings (more than we've lost, obviously, but we aren't coming off a minor premiership either) and replaced them with Copley, Mitchell, Nikorima and Watson. They would've known they wouldn't have gone as good but would they have expected to only win six games after winning 18 the year before? Only if injuries struck. During the 2016 season the following players played less than 20 games:

Copley (14 games)
Cordner (12)
Kenny-Dowall (19)
Pearce (12)
JWH (14)
 

hindy111

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Our recruitment and retention has failed off the field in the staff and on the field in that we didnt see players regressing.


Golden balls 500k plus if have a bit spare as BA mentioned could of been thrown at a good prop.
 

hindy111

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I’m sorry but if you think that with a bit of luck would could be with the top four you are off with the pixies.

We are so badly off the pace it’s not funny, the players are having a crack and BA hasn’t lost them yet. It’s about the positive you can take out of the season so far.

The dogs could of won yesterday and also against Souths and brisbane. And roosters beat them by only 6... Bit of luck and there top 4.
Raiders lost first 3 by total of 5 points and blew it against sharks and dragons.
Top of table On 18 points....

Would of could of should of
 

hindy111

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Anyhow Haynes fooled us once and now maybe even twice.

Gronk you say he is injured. That is cause he is injury prone. He missed about 8 week with Titans lsst season and really played 2 full games for us.
Same goes for T rex. He is old with a battered body. This is the NRL. It is tough. T rex may come good as so may Hayne but odds are greaters they will both only get a maximum of 16 games a season and one injury away from the end of career.

The older the higher chance of injury and past injuries always catch up.

Nathan Peats says Hello....Lets see how he is going at age 29.

People wamt to buy into oh injuries are unlucky. Some are but many are genetics.
 

Bazal

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Have a look at Gronks post, we were close in 6 of those games and with a bit of luck with could he up there in the top 4.

Pure lunacy.

It's only pure lunacy because you want a chance to have a crack at Gronk and moan about the side, mate.

There is a world of difference between could and would

There is obviously more to it than luck. But to say we could not be in the top four is just as simplistic as what you are accusing Gronk of.
 

Noise

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Id be measuring bone density and calcium intake.

I think the only people with a bone injury is Evans (ribs or sternum) and Mannah (eye socket). The rest are soft tissue injuries. Bone density and calcium intake have SFA to do with them
 

hineyrulz

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It's only pure lunacy because you want a chance to have a crack at Gronk and moan about the side, mate.

There is a world of difference between could and would

There is obviously more to it than luck. But to say we could not be in the top four is just as simplistic as what you are accusing Gronk of.
Yep I just want to have a moan at the side and have a crack at a Gronk, that’s all it is.

Fair dinkum, if he had of said in and around the top 8 I wouldn’t have said anything. But top 4???

Melbourne and the Roosters aren’t even in the top 4 atm.

We have been poor all season, sure injuries and luck haven’t helped but from about the 22min in the Penrith game we have been terrible.

How many times have we won the ruck this year??

Our attack is horrible, they look like strangers out there at times.

But but but but if we win those 6 close games we could be top 4 lol.
 

hindy111

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Yep I just want to have a moan at the side and have a crack at a Gronk, that’s all it is.

Fair dinkum, if he had of said in and around the top 8 I wouldn’t have said anything. But top 4???

Melbourne and the Roosters aren’t even in the top 4 atm.

We have been poor all season, sure injuries and luck haven’t helped but from about the 22min in the Penrith game we have been terrible.

How many times have we won the ruck this year??

Our attack is horrible, they look like strangers out there at times.

But but but but if we win those 6 close games we could be top 4 lol.


If we where full strength and they had 3 or 4 injuries we prob do win them.....
That is fact. At full strength we may of won them but not certain.

Goal kicking vs tries is irrelevant. They still count. Says who if the opposition went for the try and not the 2 they dont score?
 

Bazal

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Yep I just want to have a moan at the side and have a crack at a Gronk, that’s all it is.

Fair dinkum, if he had of said in and around the top 8 I wouldn’t have said anything. But top 4???

Melbourne and the Roosters aren’t even in the top 4 atm.

We have been poor all season, sure injuries and luck haven’t helped but from about the 22min in the Penrith game we have been terrible.

How many times have we won the ruck this year??

Our attack is horrible, they look like strangers out there at times.

But but but but if we win those 6 close games we could be top 4 lol.

Do you need me to explain could as opposed to would, mate?

You're both being simpletons IMO.
 

Gary Gutful

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If If If, the fact is we lost those games.

And I would argue the Scoreline flattered us in most of them.

The Sharks and Tigers clicked off late in in two of them after running up big leads.

In those close losses I would argue we where the better side in only the Penrith and Dogs games.

We are last and on form deserve to be last.
Bullshit.
 
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