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When will the RLIF start to actually THINK as an International Organization

spinnerhowland

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Off the 322 players in the 14 teams that competed in the 2013 World Cup: 36% Australian / 18% NZ / 21% English. So from 14 "International Teams", 75% of all players were born in just those 3 countries. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Rugby_League_World_Cup_squads

And of the ones "born" in some of the "Home Nations" they spent less than the first year of their life there before moving to their current country. So in all honesty, the true number of "domestic players" is less than 20% for the entire player group.

The rules for the WC allow for 100% of the entire squad to be heritage players, for any nation.

The Irony: The RLIF excepts those in developing countries to grow the game, with very little if any financial support. So this means the players, coaches, administrators, who in most cases are 100% volunteers, do all the hard work at the grass roots level. They spend their own money, give up their seasons, etc. Just the same as players and coaches do in the "Big Three" at any level under NRL. They work jobs, train, play, travel, pay for hotels, car rentals, update websites, pay for advertising, operate the ticket gate on game day, wash the gear, line the fields, etc. etc. etc.

Yet there is not a single rule to protect these players, when it comes time to represent their nation in what we are told, is the greatest honor in our sport.

Minimum domestic player number MUST be added to the rules to protect those who are giving this game more than any other group of people in it's international development.
 
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langpark

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Off the 322 players in the 14 teams that competed in the 2013 World Cup: 36% Australian / 18% NZ / 21% English. So from 14 "International Teams", 75% of all players were born in just those 3 countries. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Rugby_League_World_Cup_squads

And of the ones "born" in some of the "Home Nations" they spent less than the first year of their life there before moving to their current country. So in all honesty, the true number of "domestic players" is less than 20% for the entire player group.

The rules for the WC allow for 100% of the entire squad to be heritage players, for any nation.

The Irony: The RLIF excepts those in developing countries to grow the game, with very little if any financial support. So this means the players, coaches, administrators, who in most cases are 100% volunteers, do all the hard work at the grass roots level. They spend their own money, give up their seasons, etc. Just the same as players and coaches do in the "Big Three" at any level under NRL. They work jobs, train, play, travel, pay for hotels, car rentals, update websites, pay for advertising, operate the ticket gate on game day, wash the gear, line the fields, etc. etc. etc.

Yet there is not a single rule to protect these players, when it comes time to represent their nation in what we are told, is the greatest honor in our sport.

Minimum domestic player number MUST be added to the rules to protect those who are giving this game more than any other group of people in it's international development.
Here here! Well said Spinner! And Aus are setting a terrible example by being hell-bent on poaching any player they can from any emerging nation.
 

spinnerhowland

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1 week later........

Australia v Fiji: 400-2

You don't seem to have much faith in the players who are competing in competitions outside of the big three. I assume you think they are only there to unearth some talent for the NRL or SL.

And Rugby League remains a sport that has any real presence in 4 countries.
 

Knownothing

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You don't seem to have much faith in the players who are competing in competitions outside of the big three. I assume you think they are only there to unearth some talent for the NRL or SL.

And Rugby League remains a sport that has any real presence in 4 countries.

And that's just the way that the ARLC likes it.


Lots of lip service about the importance of international expansion. Reminds me of St Augustine's famous prayer: "Lord, make me pure, but not just yet".


Meanwhile the code which is still in the dark ages manages to support international competitions which depend for their credibility on clear and consistent eligibilty rules.
 

Craigo

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Off the 322 players in the 14 teams that competed in the 2013 World Cup: 36% Australian / 18% NZ / 21% English. So from 14 "International Teams", 75% of all players were born in just those 3 countries. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Rugby_League_World_Cup_squads

And of the ones "born" in some of the "Home Nations" they spent less than the first year of their life there before moving to their current country. So in all honesty, the true number of "domestic players" is less than 20% for the entire player group.

The rules for the WC allow for 100% of the entire squad to be heritage players, for any nation.

The Irony: The RLIF excepts those in developing countries to grow the game, with very little if any financial support. So this means the players, coaches, administrators, who in most cases are 100% volunteers, do all the hard work at the grass roots level. They spend their own money, give up their seasons, etc. Just the same as players and coaches do in the "Big Three" at any level under NRL. They work jobs, train, play, travel, pay for hotels, car rentals, update websites, pay for advertising, operate the ticket gate on game day, wash the gear, line the fields, etc. etc. etc.

Yet there is not a single rule to protect these players, when it comes time to represent their nation in what we are told, is the greatest honor in our sport.

Minimum domestic player number MUST be added to the rules to protect those who are giving this game more than any other group of people in it's international development.


Spot on! There were too many heritage sides last time, with Italy clearly coming to mind. Yes they may get pumped but its no different to some of the floggings that are dished up at the RU WC. I'm sure there are a couple of people on this forum who will say that it gives the game a bad look for blow-out's to happen but so what? I don't remember ANY of those Italian heritage players doing anything for the game over there since RLWC 2013, in fact I think it does more harm than good because committed people trying to play for the honour of THEIR country simply walk away.
Why the hell would I give my time AND coin to try develop a sport and play for my country, knowing that I would rate as one the top players in my domestic comp, only to see my spot given to someone who's Grandfather migrated half way around the world to another country sixty years ago?
Like I said Spinner, spot on!
 

Knownothing

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But in 10-20 years time there could be 20 plus Fijian juniors running around in the NRL and Fiji might be pushing for a World Cup final.



Fijians who move to Australia (or any other country) to play professionally are doing so mainly for the money.


If they can earn more money playing for Australia, why would they play for Fiji for nothing?
 

hutch

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Fijians who move to Australia (or any other country) to play professionally are doing so mainly for the money.


If they can earn more money playing for Australia, why would they play for Fiji for nothing?

They should be locked in to play for Fiji after representing them. And hopefully the arl stop picking other countries players at some stage in the future.
 

paulmac

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Off the 322 players in the 14 teams that competed in the 2013 World Cup: 36% Australian / 18% NZ / 21% English. So from 14 "International Teams", 75% of all players were born in just those 3 countries. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Rugby_League_World_Cup_squads

And of the ones "born" in some of the "Home Nations" they spent less than the first year of their life there before moving to their current country. So in all honesty, the true number of "domestic players" is less than 20% for the entire player group.

The rules for the WC allow for 100% of the entire squad to be heritage players, for any nation.

The Irony: The RLIF excepts those in developing countries to grow the game, with very little if any financial support. So this means the players, coaches, administrators, who in most cases are 100% volunteers, do all the hard work at the grass roots level. They spend their own money, give up their seasons, etc. Just the same as players and coaches do in the "Big Three" at any level under NRL. They work jobs, train, play, travel, pay for hotels, car rentals, update websites, pay for advertising, operate the ticket gate on game day, wash the gear, line the fields, etc. etc. etc.

Yet there is not a single rule to protect these players, when it comes time to represent their nation in what we are told, is the greatest honor in our sport.

Minimum domestic player number MUST be added to the rules to protect those who are giving this game more than any other group of people in it's international development.
This is why I hope Wales,Serbia and to a lesser extent Ireland qualify for the RLWC.At least you know some players born in said countries will get a run.
 

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