Who to fire?

[d-a-z-z-a]

As a long time Canberra Raiders fan I had some thoughts about who the Canberra Raiders need to get rid of.

Why are the Canberra Raiders the ONLY club in the newly formed NRL to never have a side capable of winning the premiership?

Why are the Raiders the only club willing to accept mediocracy year on year. I compare the Eels and the Raiders. The Eels have Kearney who is possibly a good coach but performing terribly. He is having a terrible season and straight away the board start commenting about the pressure he is under and how if things dont turn around soon he will lose his job. Yet at the Raiders, we accept David Furner year after year and still today after the worst performance in clubs history the idiot board of directors comment that they will have a yarn with David Furner later and see how he thinks about the match.

I believe the CEO and board of directors at most clubs are of a professional nature, are up to date with NRL standards and work under modern day comporate conditions, yet at the Raiders we have a board still living in there 1994 glory days, believing loyalty is the key to success and never accepting any self criticism.

The biggest clanger was earlier this year when John McIntyre commented "David could lose the next 30 games and we still wouldn't sack him". Who are these idiots!??!?!?! Can anyone imagine a company with a CEO stating , "David Smith our managing director can record annual losses for the next 20 years and I wouldn't fire him". This would never happen and it shouldn't happen in a Rugby League club.

The fact of the matter is the Canberra Raiders players are just tools of the coach. Sure if one or two players play bad the coach is right to drop them, but if the whole team play bad surely the person in-charge of the team is to blame. So then we look at the coach. Clearly David is a dud coach and isnt performing. But we can't blame DF he is a bloke doing his best to coach a team he was put in charge of. But who chose David Furner? Shouldn't the people who chose David furner to be the manager of their team be held with some responsibility? Shouldn't the people who let Neil Henry leave the Canberra Raiders have some blame? or the ones who hired Matt Elliot? or fired Mal Mennings? be held with some form of responsibility.

I am all for getting rid of David Furner but why is there never any blame for the biggest idiots of them all, the Canberra Raiders Borad of Directors. Since the NRL formed in 1998 the Canberra Raiders have sucked! Was Josh Dugan playing then? NO! was Shaun Fenson playing for us then? NO! was Bronson Harrison a Raider then? NO! and was David Furner our head coach then? NO! But have a look at our Board of Directors and CEO and tell me how many of these tools were working here then and tell me who is the common denominator at the Canberra Raiders during the past 14 years.

Serious firings should be taking place at the raiders and you'll find a few of the candidates should be found on our club website. http://www.raiders.com.au/board-of-directors.

 

[aids]

2003 was a good year

 

[Raider_69]

---> raiders forum

 

[gronkathon]

2003 was a good year

Boogs?

 

[Twizzle]

---> raiders forum

agreed

 

[legend]

All I will say is I have never been more disillusioned to be a Raiders fan than I am at this moment.

I have followed the Raiders for almost 25 years and this is the worst time as a fan I have ever experienced.

At least under previous coaches, the players were having a dig. It's obvious the current side simply do not give a shit so why should I?

 

[mongoose]

It pisses me off so much that losing 40 blot at home is seen as just a bad day at the office. Sitting second last on the ladder is just another unlucky year for the raiders. Hey maybe 2013 will be a bit more fortunate and we will come 8th again... I honestly don't think furner or the club even knows why they are going so poorly. It's such a dire situation.

 

[Boganater]

All I will say is I have never been more disillusioned to be a Raiders fan than I am at this moment.

I have followed the Raiders for almost 25 years and this is the worst time as a fan I have ever experienced.

At least under previous coaches, the players were having a dig. It's obvious the current side simply do not give a shit so why should I?

Yep Furner makes Matt Elliot look like Jack Gibson.
Given the roster Elliot had to work with they performed far better than the sum of their parts.
They will piss the fans off to a point where they will have no members and pitiful crowds at home games.

 

[Timbo]

I never thought I'd say this - I miss Matt Elliot.

When I heard Furner saying he 'couldn't fault the effort of the players' after the debacle on Saturday night, that'll do me.

He's not the real problem though. John McIntyre is. It comes down to one thing, and it's pretty bloody obvious from reading his press releases and listening to his interviews - he simply cannot accept that he's wrong. He's right. Everyone else is wrong. It was his decision to appoint Furner, and as he's never been wrong in his life, it was the correct decision. The on field results, well - that's just bad luck according to him.

Furner I'm certain by now is aware if he leaves he'll never be head coach anywhere, ever again. If he'd left midway through last year, he could have potentially worked his way back via Super League. But not now. He will - at best - get a gig as an assistant coach somewhere, but the way our defence has been tissue paper thin and our attack completely clueless, even hiring him as an assistant would be dicey. He won't walk away from what will surely be his last ever big payday.

Anyway. I don't know why we bother to rant. The club clearly doesn't care what the fans think. They don't want people like us supporting them. They want sycophants who will 'wait for Dave to prove the doubters wrong' and 'keep supporting the club because you aren't a real fan if you're critical'.

 

[Boganater]

It pisses me off so much that losing 40 blot at home is seen as just a bad day at the office. Sitting second last on the ladder is just another unlucky year for the raiders. Hey maybe 2013 will be a bit more fortunate and we will come 8th again... I honestly don't think furner or the club even knows why they are going so poorly. It's such a dire situation.

I think they know why they are going so poorly, they just don't want to make the tough call.

 

[Cryptic]

To be honest I'm a big fan of CEOs going before anyone else... They get paid the big bucks so they should be taking the most risk and if anything goes wrong anywhere it all comes back to them as the head of the company anyway...

Oh and as for attack our attack has actually been good most of the year... Just our defence has been shocking for more of the year and our attack isn't that good that it makes up for it...

It all comes down to commitment... I vote we are just giving people the wrong contracts... They should all be at least 50% performance based... If it's costing them 50% of their income because they couldn't be bothered playing to the max of their abilities (hell 20% of their abilies would be better than last weekend) I think we would see some massive changes.

 

[Raidersrawesome]

I feel CEO is doing a good job.

The only part the Raiders club are struggling in is getting the results on the field.

 

[Walt Flanigan]

I'm not even angry at David Furner. I'm angry at McIntryre and the whole f*cking board of gutless merkins who can't make the tough decisions.

 

[d-a-z-z-a]

Dave Furner is obviously doing the best he can and i believe he has thrown his entire brain + kitchen sink at coaching this team. The fact is he is not a GREAT coach and is not the best person to be coach of the Raiders.

Really think we need either:

1. A director of football (Phil Gould-Penrith Panthers) type role.

2. A new modern and fresh board of directors who are in touch with modern day Rugby League standards.

3. A new coach better than DF.. Stuart, Menninga, Nathan Brown.. Jason Taylor

4. Im getting desperate here..a 3 coach system with - Bulgarelli - Attacking coach, Wolfgramm - Defencive coach and Tyrone Smith - Handling coach

The idiots who hired him are the ones who made the wrong call and they were stupid enough to EXTEND his contract for 2 more years because the team hit ONE hot patch. Horrible decision making, poor judgement calls.. i am unsure what has to be done to make something change but for gods sake its getting boring being a Raiders fan... every year we are just looking forward to next year

 

[Cryptic]

Apparantly sacking the CEO was the solution people came up with... Although the CEO of the entire NRL was unexpected

Seriously though I think the issue is that the players like him too much and he is too much of a nice guy... Good work places hate their bosses but for the right reasons... Your boss should be the hard arse you dislike but at least respect (so hard but not an idiot)... In all my work history I think I worked the hardest when the boss knew what he was doing, but was still a bit of a slave driver...

 

[Eddie Lab]

wouldn't feel right if canberra Milk didn't sponsor the Raiders

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act...s-attention-20120604-1zsga.html#ixzz1wuxDdaqW

A foundation sponsor of the Canberra Raiders wants assurances the embattled club will return to its glory days before re-committing for the next three years.
On a tumultuous day which began with intense speculation coach David Furner would step aside and ended with the NRL strugglers embarking on an unprecedented week-long camp, Canberra Milk general manager Garry Sykes yesterday said his company wanted to know how the Raiders intend to rectify their rotten season.
Furner will remain at the helm of a Raiders side which has lost five of its past six games and is second-last on the ladder - the same position it finished in last year.
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The low point came in last weekend's 40-0 drubbing at the hands of the Wests Tigers, a match which represented the Raiders' greatest losing margin at Canberra Stadium and the second-highest home loss in the club's 31-year history.
Canberra Milk has been there since those humble beginnings in 1982, experiencing the lows of the initial stages when a team of largely amateurs were flogged on a regular basis, to the highs of the club's three premierships in 1989, 1990 and 1994.
Mr Sykes said negotiations were underway to extend that relationship until 2015, but he wanted to be confident his company was aligned with a successful brand before signing on the dotted line.
''If we do a three-year deal with the Raiders, one of the things we want to do is sit down and say, I want to have a look at what their plans are for the next three years,'' Mr Sykes said.
''For three years we've been saying next year.
''We can't keep blaming everywhere else except what the issue is.
''We need to identify what the issue is and fix it quickly.''
The Raiders are sticking strongly with Furner, who has a 38 per cent winning percentage since taking over the top job in 2009, the second-worst record in club history in front of only Don Furner senior's 34 per cent mark from 1982-86.
In fairness, the Raiders were the victims of a horror injury toll last year, and have again lost key playmaker Terry Campese and representative prop Brett White for the rest of this season.
Furner appeared bemused when quizzed about the source of rumours beginning on Twitter that he was going to either step down or be asked to step down by the Raiders board yesterday.
''You've got a better idea than me,'' he said.
''For me, it's just about concentrating on a game - and that's all I can do.''
As a large media contingent surrounded Furner, players boarded a team bus bound for the Central Coast knowing they will face intense scrutiny if they deliver another forgettable performance against the Newcastle Knights at Hunter Stadium on Saturday night.
Raiders chairman John McIntyre stated the club intends to honour Furner's contract, which expires at the end of 2014.
Mr Sykes, who last year had a Raiders logo tattooed on his arm, said on-field performances were crucial to Canberra Milk continuing its association with the club.
''A sponsorship's an investment and you want to get a return on investment,'' he said.
''We're a strong, proud brand and want to be associated with a strong, proud club.''

 

[mongoose]

Now the sponsors are getting worried lol f**king dopes.

If the NRL was the stock market the raiders are what you call a dog.