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Why do we want to be moral crusaders??

Eastview

Juniors
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Funny how they only want to start doing this from next season, gives the boys plenty of time to get off the gear and get clean before the tests.

If the club wants to do this "Not just as a statement about our culture but for the welfare of every player." why not start testing today?
 

Inferno

Coach
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NRL premiers Cronulla want to introduce mandatory hair follicle tests for their players to detect illicit drug use from next season.

In the most powerful crackdown on drug use in Australian sport, up to 50 Sharks players would face testing four times a season.

Hair follicle tests can identify any drug use within 90 days and would involve rookies from Holden Cup to first-grade superstars.

Sharks coach Shane Flanagan and CEO Lyall Gorman are in talks with the NRL integrity unit, the players’ union and lawyers in a bid to start before the 2018 season.

“We want to do this as a club,” Flanagan said, “Not just as a statement about our culture but for the welfare of every player.”

The Sharks have been embroiled in a number of drug controversies in recent years including the peptides scandal which engulfed their 2011 squad, their chairman Damian Keogh being caught in possession of cocaine and superstar fullback Ben Barba twice testing positive to illicit substances.

The testing would cost the club an estimated $40,000 a year. It is unclear if Sharks employees outside of the players would be subjected to the tests.

Flanagan has spoken to a number of his players about the plan.

“The players are all on board,” he said, “Importantly it’s across the board and we include all the Holden Cup boys from 18 years of age and upwards. It’s a good age to get the message out there.

“They would be tested four times every year so there would be no window for any players to use drugs from the moment they sign to play for our club.

“There are lots of legalities but we are working through that and obviously there are more discussions to have with the RLPA and the NRL.

“But it’s something our welfare department and our CEO are very keen on introducing. We want to be leaders in this area.”

Other sports in Australia, including the AFL, and overseas conduct random hair follicle tests.

The penalties vary depending on each code’s illicit drug policy. A first offence in rugby league results in a warning and counselling.

A second offence is an automatic 12-week suspension which Sharks star Barba chose not to accept before heading off to French rugby union.

“It’s common knowledge we’ve had our issues,” Flanagan said, “but this is something to ensure we eradicate the problem.

“That if you want to play rugby league for the Cronulla Sharks, you cannot do drugs.”

Sacked Sydney Roosters star Shaun Kenny-Dowall recently underwent a hair follicle test to prove he did not use the cocaine he was allegedly caught in possession with last month at the Ivy nightclub.

The NRL’s drug testing policies are under discussion as part of the RLPA’s negotiations for their collective bargaining agreement.

Former South Sydney chief John Lee first raised the prospect of follicle testing two years ago when Rabbitohs players Dylan Walker and Aaron Gray were fortunate to escape with their lives after dabbling with prescription drugs.

The NRL declined to comment on hair testing while the matter is being discussed in the CBA negotiations. But it is understood chief operating officer Nick Weeks has told the RLPA he is not opposed to the concept.

Weeks believes hair testing could be used, in the first instance, to determine the extent of the issue rather than to punish players. The NRL would then determine how hair testing should be used going forward.

In a crackdown on drug use across all sport, the World Anti Doping Agency has considered the introduction of hair follicle testing.

Even the world’s fastest man, Jamaican superstar Usain Bolt, supported the idea.

“I think that any way you can crack down on drug use in sports, I have no problem with it,” he recently said.

RLPA boss Ian Prendergast is not so sure.

“It could encroach significantly on the players’ privacy and civil liberties.” he said. “Maybe if it was a whole of game approach we’d be more open to discussions about it.

“It’s been raised in our current negotiations,” he said. The NRL has also been canvassing the views of the clubs.

“We expressed some concerns in relation to the current policy in relation to counselling and ongoing support. At the moment we’re more interested in addressing the current policy and taking a more sophisticated all-round approach.”
 

Inferno

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Personally I couldn't give two shits what drugs players in the NRL or anyone else in society choose to indulge in.

But I think it's a smart move. The reality is all clubs will be moving towards this at some stage and given our unfortunate history with drugs its a good idea to get ahead of the curve.

Success is just one factor that attracts sponsor, and something like this gives us a point of difference in trying to attract sponsors. Losing sponsors due to off field dramas is also something we have unfortunately suffered over the past few years. It also sends a clear message to all the players that drug taking is not something the club considers acceptable.

If players are choosing to dabble in drugs from time to time, they're already taking a huge risk given all clubs and the NRL and ASADA randomly test players. If we avoid those stupid people we're all the better for it IMO.
 

Tiger Shark

Bench
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Funny how they only want to start doing this from next season, gives the boys plenty of time to get off the gear and get clean before the tests.

If the club wants to do this "Not just as a statement about our culture but for the welfare of every player." why not start testing today?

Probably for legal reasons, not just something you can start doing going off alot of the comments in the article.
 
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I'm surprised by the forums reaction to be honest.

Attitude might change when we mysteriously can't attract players or suddenly a lot of our juniors want to leave.
 

Arnold

Juniors
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Funny how they only want to start doing this from next season, gives the boys plenty of time to get off the gear and get clean before the tests.

If the club wants to do this "Not just as a statement about our culture but for the welfare of every player." why not start testing today?

Did you read the article?

"Sharks coach Shane Flanagan and CEO Lyall Gorman are in talks with the NRL integrity unit, the players’ union and lawyers in a bid to start before the 2018 season."
 

Arnold

Juniors
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I'm surprised by the forums reaction to be honest.

Attitude might change when we mysteriously can't attract players or suddenly a lot of our juniors want to leave.

Nope. Im completely fed up with club reps bringing the club down.

Players that don't want to join or juniors that leave cos they can't take drugs can f**k off.

Bring it on.
 

Tiger Shark

Bench
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I'm surprised by the forums reaction to be honest.

Attitude might change when we mysteriously can't attract players or suddenly a lot of our juniors want to leave.

You don't think all the clubs won't start doing this eventually ? I think they will. So it won't make a difference from a recruitment stand point then.

Besides as much as I want the next superstar fullback like Holmes I don't want another Barba situation where we lose him for 6 months. So perhaps it's best to crack down early.
 

Arnold

Juniors
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You don't think all the clubs won't start doing this eventually ? I think they will. So it won't make a difference from a recruitment stand point then.

Besides as much as I want the next superstar fullback like Holmes I don't want another Barba situation where we lose him for 6 months. So perhaps it's best to crack down early.
I see what u did there.
 

Eion

First Grade
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You don't think all the clubs won't start doing this eventually ? I think they will. So it won't make a difference from a recruitment stand point then.

Besides as much as I want the next superstar fullback like Holmes I don't want another Barba situation where we lose him for 6 months. So perhaps it's best to crack down early.
Ageee with it or not, its leadership. Lyall showing Greenberg up once again.
 

taipan

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Can't see a problem.It shows the Sharks are leaders in wanting to show the public ,they want players to be responsible in representing their club not only to the sponsors, but mainly to the public /their fans and to the young kids who idolise their players.

Regardless of rec drugs.you can't have a clear head whilst partaking and who knows the long term effect e.g. depression.
If a player does not want to join the Sharks.because he likes a bong,or ice, or whatever one sniffs or injects for kicks, tough.IMO we are better off without him.Maybe Nimbin could start a rl club, anything goes,bongs at halftime, sniffs at full time.

This club over the years has had too much crap flying around ,just when you thought everything was rosy,some gimp drags the whole shebang down, lose sponsors,fans.You get paid big bikkies,you have to bear some responsibility.

Gorman in terms of leadership leaves just about everyone in power within the NRL for dead.We should be thankful he's ours.
 
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