Why don't the refs keep the markers straight

[Frailty]

Why don't these incompetant painted on eyes referees do their job consistently correct?
Calling players by their first name and mate is very unprofessional. All players should be address as the number on thier back...thats it. You are not his mate or coach.
Coaching and warning the elite players not to commit a penalty and not to stand offside is very unprofessional. Are they the referee or the coach on the field ?

A good referee should be heard but never noticed or remember for any on the field calls.

Most of these referees just couldn't make it playing the game and end up wanting the attention on the field as a inconsistent, unprofessional referee.

I've often wondered why they call out to tell a player he's offside. Let him make the tackle and penalise him if he can't get onside himself.

Because they are under pressure by the NRL to let the game flow. No point having a go at the refs when they are only doing what their boss tells them to do. Their life would be a heck of a lot easier if they were allowed to ref to the rules only!

Referees have been calling out players for years, even from the 80s. This is not a new development that's only occurred under the NRL. Referees have been taught to do this for over 30 years. It to allow the game to flow and not end up in a penalty goal contest like Rugby Union does. This wasn't league pressure, this was referees doing this.

As for only calling numbers rather than names - well this changed because players responded to their names better than a number - especially if they weren't wearing a consistent number on the field. The best referees are not authoritarian or power drunk, but those working with the players to ensure the game is played by the rules through engagement.

As for your last comment @2010Dragons, that's extremely typical of a fan who knows nothing about the game. Referees know more about the game, it's history, than most of the players, management or fans will ever know. They are not wanting attention - they are doing an extremely difficult job where they are constantly under the microscope and blamed because teams play poorly.

 

[2010Dragons]

Referees have been calling out players for years, even from the 80s. This is not a new development that's only occurred under the NRL. Referees have been taught to do this for over 30 years. It to allow the game to flow and not end up in a penalty goal contest like Rugby Union does. This wasn't league pressure, this was referees doing this.

As for only calling numbers rather than names - well this changed because players responded to their names better than a number - especially if they weren't wearing a consistent number on the field. The best referees are not authoritarian or power drunk, but those working with the players to ensure the game is played by the rules through engagement.

As for your last comment @2010Dragons, that's extremely typical of a fan who knows nothing about the game. Referees know more about the game, it's history, than most of the players, management or fans will ever know. They are not wanting attention - they are doing an extremely difficult job where they are constantly under the microscope and blamed because teams play poorly.

Frailty,
You don't know who I am and I don't care who you are.
But I think I might know just a little bit about the game... I played for 20 years and refereed games at the highest level in the 70's.
Back then players and match officals knew where to draw the line.
Players were team mates and Referees were match official who blew the whistle without coaching the players and addressed as sir on the field, a sign of respect.

 

[Cheese sandwich]

Because they are under pressure by the NRL to let the game flow. No point having a go at the refs when they are only doing what their boss tells them to do. Their life would be a heck of a lot easier if they were allowed to ref to the rules only!

Weird old sport rugby league, i know you're right with what you said but i wonder if there's any other sport where the referee/umpire has to do this too.

De Bruyne about to play Sterling in through on goal and the refs yelling hold your run Raheem, go now

 

[Perth Red]

Weird old sport rugby league, i know you're right with what you said but i wonder if there's any other sport where the referee/umpire has to do this too.

De Bruyne about to play Sterling in through on goal and the refs yelling hold your run Raheem, go now

You see a lot of holding let go in NFL and they only call the really obvious ones or the ones that impact a play. Don't watch union so don't know for sure but people say it is very technical so I would imagine there is a lot let go in that sport as well? Even in the highly technical world of F1 the rules are being 'interpreted' to create more entertainment.

TBH Id rather hear the ref telling a player to stay out of play than yet another penalty or 6 again blown.

 

[Cheese sandwich]

You see a lot of holding let go in NFL and they only call the really obvious ones or the ones that impact a play. Don't watch union so don't know for sure but people say it is very technical so I would imagine there is a lot let go in that sport as well? Even in the highly technical world of F1 the rules are being 'interpreted' to create more entertainment.

TBH Id rather hear the ref telling a player to stay out of play than yet another penalty or 6 again blown.

Just on F1 and i speak as somewhat of a fan of it, its become a procession with minimal overtaking so they need to try everything to make it a spectacle.

 

[Perth Red]

Just on F1 and i speak as somewhat of a fan of it, its become a procession with minimal overtaking so they need to try everything to make it a spectacle.

Usually the best action is in the middle of the pack these days. The financial gap between the haves and have nots is so great its hard to get cars that can match up to each other up front. Kind of like the NRL at the moment. This years cars are much better though. I race and its amazing how much of a speed difference you need between cars to be able to overtake each other.

 

[Marshall_magic]

Or just make it a penalty like it used to be. These days they can walk off the mark and only risk being asked to go back and play it again.

that works too

 

[Canard]

For those wanting strict Interpretations of every rule in the book, I have a sport for you

Rugby Union

Even their fans and the media, hate the way the game is officiated.

 

[Vee]

I haven't noticed it being more of an issue than it has been in previous seasons. They only need to be penalised if they get involved in the play and for the most part the referees have been doing this.

If they are not straight they are involved as they influence play by restricting the options.

 

[siv]

Guess we can bring back the pocket referee

Add 2 in-goals touch judges

And we are ready to do away with the video referee and captains challenge

 

[Frailty]

If they are not straight they are involved as they influence play by restricting the options.

So are players who were behind play and are retreating the 10m, or players who have rolled out of the ruck but are still to the side of the PTB.

 

[Perth Red]

Guess we can bring back the pocket referee

Add 2 in-goals touch judges

And we are ready to do away with the video referee and captains challenge

Funny there was one of the refs calling for the second ref back the other day!

the great thing about watching games from the 90's is you didnt get loads of replays and commentators spending 5mins criticising every decision the ref team make! We could turn it back but would require buy in from TV. Good luck with that, they feed off the sensationalism of mistakes for days on end.

 

[siv]

Funny there was one of the refs calling for the second ref back the other day!

the great thing about watching games from the 90's is you didnt get loads of replays and commentators spending 5mins criticising every decision the ref team make! We could turn it back but would require buy in from TV. Good luck with that, they feed off the sensationalism of mistakes for days on end.

The only real issue stopping in-goal touch judges is around corner posts when arms, legs and ball are all in motion and its 100% around lines. Eg foot it touch before gets grounded

This is really only time video ref works properly

For everything else In-goal touch judge & ref is as good as a video ref eg held up, knock ons, double movements etc

 

[Perth Red]

Is this frustrating new rule where a try is scored, vr looks at replays, the Ref stops then game so vr can look at even more replays then 5min later they decide it isn’t a try the most bs rule change in recent times? It sucks the life out of the game.

 

[Vee]

So are players who were behind play and are retreating the 10m, or players who have rolled out of the ruck but are still to the side of the PTB.

They're passive, not actively trying to impact the game.