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Why Isn't Archer and Klein Dropped

Gaba

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Archer and Klein made bigger blunders what changed the game then clark did

1-Klein calling a double knock on when it came off weymans'hip/gut area not a knock robbed dragons of a try

2- Hornby dubious knock on which lead to idirs first try

3- Klein obstruction call of weyman who obstructed the air no bulldogs players were near him which gave bulldogs the penalty to get idris the chance for the first try


4- Archer ruled idris first try when video evidence showed no try he was short of the line
 
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ByRd

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1. If you drop it and it touches the opposition and goes down, you cant play on.

2. Dubious knock on loll

3. Clear obstruction and you know it

4. LOL he was right there, no Dragon player blew up, fair try
 

Timmah

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Archer and Klein made bigger blunders what changed the game then clark did

1-Klein calling a double knock on when it came off weymans'hip/gut area not a knock robbed dragons of a try

2- Hornby dubious knock on which lead to idirs first try

3- Klein obstruction call of weyman who obstructed the air no bulldogs players were near him which gave bulldogs the penalty to get idris the chance for the first try


4- Archer ruled idris first try when video evidence showed no try he was short of the line
But if you want a real response:

1. They are the rules. If the ball is lost and touches both teams, it's a double knock on - you can't play advantage if both teams have made an error. Rarely will you see advantage played, if at all, when this occurs.

2. Hornby dubious knock on? It went forward. We're talking about admittedly, blatantly incorrect decisions, not "dubious" ones.

3. Weyman did obstruct, simple as that. Stock standard shepherd.

4. Idris scored his actual try, if you think that's in question you're delusional :lol:
 

Rodent

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Who was the better side? Who deserved the 2 points? These are questions that can't be answered. It is very subjective. There is 1 thing that can't be disputed though. The dragons got the 2 points and the bulldogs got sfa. The bottom line is the dogs just weren't good enough to overcome the bad calls that went against them. If the last try was given, the same could be said of the dragons. They'd have been unlucky that a few crucial calls went against them.
The dogs weren't good enough on the night. That's proven by the result 20-18. It happens every week, a game can go either way on the call of a ref. The best sides take the ref out of the equation. On Friday night's performance, neither the dragons nor the dogs were good enough to take the ref out of the equation.
Dogs can whinge all they like but you just weren't good enough. Suck it up. There isn't a supporter out there that hasn't seen their side robbed at some point. Just be thankful that it wasn't a sudden death semi. You dogs were gifted one of those at Kogarah in 98 and I'll never forget it. That's why I have zero sympathy. What goes around comes around.
 

Gaba

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But if you want a real response:

1. They are the rules. If the ball is lost and touches both teams, it's a double knock on - you can't play advantage if both teams have made an error. Rarely will you see advantage played, if at all, when this occurs.

2. Hornby dubious knock on? It went forward. We're talking about admittedly, blatantly incorrect decisions, not "dubious" ones.

3. Weyman did obstruct, simple as that. Stock standard shepherd.

4. Idris scored his actual try, if you think that's in question you're delusional :lol:


learn the rules Its not a knock on if it hits below the chest which it did, it hit weymans gut.hip area, harrigan confirm that

kimmorley threw the pass , hornby didnt play at it there was doubts whether he touched it or not


3- there was no bulldogs player near him

4 harrigan again admitted it on video evidence he was short,


another point i will make even if he made an 2nd attempt to ground the ball on the line, its double movement if creaghs was awarded a double movement so what that one, the arm with the ball touched the ground before the line, while his momentum was stopped
 
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Firey_Dragon

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It's only a double knock on if the opposing side knocks on. It's deemed an automatic knock on if the ball is propelled forward and hits an opposing player. Klein blew the whistle early, had it been referred to the video ref, it probably would have been given a try.

The obstruction call with weyman was the right one by the law of the game, however no one was obstructed IMO.

The rest of this post is rubbish though. The dogs are entitled to feel cheated having lost the game, but I personally feel the call really could have gone either way. We were short changed on the Hornby Try, Dogs were short changed on the Irdris try.

Steve Clark being dropped is a puzzling one though, given the league can't even settle on the rule themselves. The Slater no-try in the test was a testament to that. At the end of the day, Eastwood made contact from an offside position, whether Soward would have made the tackle remains unlikely but you run the risk of getting calls like that when you put yourself in that position.
 

Gaba

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No luck the bulldogs were kept in the match, and the decisions made by archer and Klein were as bad as clark, so finch shouldnt have bowed to the bulldogs ,if he was serious about punish refs for game turning mistakes, then Archer and Klein should be dropped

Clark was just made as a scapegoat for Finch's officials lack of inconsistency
 
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Pierced Soul

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Eastwood made contact from an offside position, whether Soward would have made the tackle remains unlikely but you run the risk of getting calls like that when you put yourself in that position.

at the risk of stating the obvious, the bulldogs made the break from the kick return which means everyone except their back 3 were 'offside'. Eastwood doesnt impede or interfere with soward, soward runs into him so what was eastwood meant to be do? hang out with the fullback and wingers so he cant be in the way
 

Gaba

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Not crying just showing what joke finch is , how weak is he bowing to a club like the bulldogs what crys even though they got alot of decision their way and how hypocritical they are

Andif he had guts and a leader he would have dropped the on field officials made bigger blunders
 

Firey_Dragon

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at the risk of stating the obvious, the bulldogs made the break from the kick return which means everyone except their back 3 were 'offside'. Eastwood doesnt impede or interfere with soward, soward runs into him so what was eastwood meant to be do? hang out with the fullback and wingers so he cant be in the way
I'm not saying the call was right, I'm just saying if you run to where some of your players are offside, you do run the risk of causing an obstruction.

Personally I think both teams got some pretty poor calls, but the only reason we're talking about this one is because the dogs never had a chance to bounce back from this one. I think it's a ridiculous mentality that this game has that decisions made in the last 10 minutes are judged differently to ones made throughout the rest of the game.

Had I been the video referee, I would have awarded the try. Had I also had the Hornby try referred, I would have also awarded that. Fans are crying that they were robbed, to be honest I'm sick of hearing it, we copped dud calls that influenced our score as well. At the end of the day both teams were evenly matched and neither team proved they deserved to win more. It's just a shame that this game will be remembered for the last 30 seconds.
 

Game_Breaker

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Gaba, just stop, You're embarassing yourself.


The Clark blunder is the biggest in recent memory. To say there were bigger blunders in the match is ridiculous.
 

Gaba

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Gaba, just stop, You're embarassing yourself.


The Clark blunder is the biggest in recent memory. To say there were bigger blunders in the match is ridiculous.

You are if the hornby try was given and the first idris try was referred the dogs would not have been crying like they have been.

And Finch should be a strong leader and dropped all of the officials they all made bad decisions not using one scapegoat to please the crybabys bulldogs
 
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Timmah

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The Hornby no-try might have been dubious. The Idris no-try has been ADMITTEDLY proven wrong.
 

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