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Winning after a Townsville final?

Poupou Escobar

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Is it harder to back up after a big match in the tropics in September? History says it is.

There have been nine occasions where teams played a finals match in Townsville and then had to play the following week. Their record in that second week was a combined 2 from 9 (22%). Here's those occasions:

YearTeamResult following Townsville final
2004CowboysLoss
2007CowboysWin
2007BulldogsLoss
2007CowboysLoss
2012CowboysLoss
2014CowboysLoss
2015CowboysWin
2016CowboysLoss
2022EelsLoss

By itself this doesn't tell the whole story though. This was mostly the Cowboys, and if they were usually playing away from home the week after playing in Townsville it stands to reason that they would have had a poor away record, right? Rong!

The Cowboys' home record is obviously good following a home (1 from 1) or away final (3 from 4), but their away record the week after a Townsville final is significantly worse than their away record the week after a final in Sydney/Brisbane or Melbourne:

Away final...RecordPercentage
after Townsville final1 from 617%
after Sydney/Brisbane/Melbourne final5 from 771%

So if the Cowboys are going to play a finals match away from Townsville, they are historically better off playing their previous week's final away as well. Backing up from a home final has been very difficult for them. Their away finals record after week one is average (6 from 13) but actually pretty good (5 from 7) if their previous game wasn't in Townsville. An away match backing up from a home final has been disastrous for them (1 from 6).

Likewise the other two teams to play a finals match after travelling to North Queensland have both failed to turn up the following week; us in last year's grand final, and the Bulldogs in 2007 (pumped 25-6).
 

King-Gutho94

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If only the Cowboys hosted there home final in 2005 finals week 2 against Melbourne.

We would have thumped them following week in the prelim and the Tigers would never won in 2005.

Ffs just can't help bad luck.
 

84 Baby

Referee
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28,312
Is it harder to back up after a big match in the tropics in September? History says it is.

There have been nine occasions where teams played a finals match in Townsville and then had to play the following week. Their record in that second week was a combined 2 from 9 (22%). Here's those occasions:

YearTeamResult following Townsville final
2004CowboysLoss
2007CowboysWin
2007BulldogsLoss
2007CowboysLoss
2012CowboysLoss
2014CowboysLoss
2015CowboysWin
2016CowboysLoss
2022EelsLoss

By itself this doesn't tell the whole story though. This was mostly the Cowboys, and if they were usually playing away from home the week after playing in Townsville it stands to reason that they would have had a poor away record, right? Rong!

The Cowboys' home record is obviously good following a home (1 from 1) or away final (3 from 4), but their away record the week after a Townsville final is significantly worse than their away record the week after a final in Sydney/Brisbane or Melbourne:

Away final...RecordPercentage
after Townsville final1 from 617%
after Sydney/Brisbane/Melbourne final5 from 771%

So if the Cowboys are going to play a finals match away from Townsville, they are historically better off playing their previous week's final away as well. Backing up from a home final has been very difficult for them. Their away finals record after week one is average (6 from 13) but actually pretty good (5 from 7) if their previous game wasn't in Townsville. An away match backing up from a home final has been disastrous for them (1 from 6).

Likewise the other two teams to play a finals match after travelling to North Queensland have both failed to turn up the following week; us in last year's grand final, and the Bulldogs in 2007 (pumped 25-6).
This doesn’t explain why BA made the players catch public transport to the GF though
 

hindy111

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The final system needs to be fixed.
Rnd one yes home game
Rnd two sure but the major semi finals should both be played in Sydney on neutral ground.
 

T.S Quint

Coach
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Play all finals as home & away series.

Nah, too much drama.
Plus the acting is better on a footy field.

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King-Gutho94

Coach
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We are the only team to beat the cowboys in a final at Townsville going off your stats after 8 previous attempts failed from other sides.

Someone should have given us trophy for that achievement.

The Glenn Morrison Cup maybe.

Who does everyone think is the best Eel to also play for the cowboys.

Other candidates are
Ashley Graham
Willie Tonga
Chris Mucket
 

Noise

Coach
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We are the only team to beat the cowboys in a final at Townsville going off your stats after 8 previous attempts failed from other sides.

Someone should have given us trophy for that achievement.

The Glenn Morrison Cup maybe.

Who does everyone think is the best Eel to also play for the cowboys.

Other candidates are
Ashley Graham
Willie Tonga
Chris Mucket
Jason Smith
 
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