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Would a Lomu switch have backfired?

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Kipper

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Hello all. I haven't been invited to come here (probably for very good reason!), but I've dared to climb upand have a look atthis cozy little tree-house all the same. I know I was one of the worst protagonists for the crap that you're all running away from, but please don't chuck me out, please! I must say it'sgood to see you've got that "where everybody knows your name.." feeling going nicely. Are there any plans to invite any more old regulars to come over? Anyway, back to my topic. I've always been convinced that league faces the biggest battle of all NZ's major sports, with not only with the usual weight of high expectations onits shoulders, but also plenty of prejudice still around to counter as well. After all, it's going to take a lot to impress the sort of people who still think of league as "state house rugby". I was listening to general talkback a fewdays ago (yes, sad for someone my age I know), and I was disappointed to hear it full of people saying what a disaster it would be if Jonah did somehow sign with the Warriors. The general feeling was that even if the Warriors did win lotto7 times in a row so they could afford him, the planned promotional dream would backfire because Lomu would go from hero to zero overnight. Of course, there are a lot of tall poppy cutters that have been waiting a long time to really crucify Lomu for something, despite him doing more for the All Blacks and their favourite code than any other individual in modern times. A little bit of knocking whenever the guy's name is mentioned should be expected because of this, but so much for an professional athlete having the freedom to do what he wants to in life, let alone pursue a career in the sport he played into his late teens and still enjoys today. Instead, it's his duty to deploy his talents in the best way he can serve the country! Following on from Bronco's post, this is in my opinion one of the reasons NZ's major sports teams "can't handle the hype"- it's become some kind of couched potatoes' equivalent of a war effort. Australia sets the standard formaking all top level sport a great excuse for flag-waving patriotism (e.g. the Wallabies- I'm convinced 90% of their fans don'thave even a basic understanding of thesport the team plays!), but it's seemingly even more important to many New Zealanders' self-esteem and pride in their nation. So, my question to put to this community is- do you think Lomu would really become a villain in many Kiwis' eyes if he did go to league? There's not a realistic chance of it happening, but that's really not the point. There's a definite chance he'll go somewhere overseas at the end of the year though, and I think if it happens itwill produce the worst example of childish crap from NZ rugby fans since the '99 World Cup semi-final.
 
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I, for one, love your work Kipper,and I wasn't invited here either. I don't think many were. It's a self-motivated defection thing it seems.

For Jonah personally I don't think the move would have been a good thing. As you said, the majority of Union fans in NZ would have turned on him. For the code of League the move would have given the game a boost in many areas, it would have given a clear message to Union players in the Pacific Islands and other places around the world that League is a viable alternative, it would have brought the hostility against League in many countries out in the open for all to see and it would have dragged those fans who know little of Rugby and a lot about Jonah away from Union and towards League.

I think it would be money well spent if we were able to entice him over, whatever the cost may be. It would not cause new hostilities between the codes, just bring the hostilities that already exist out into the open, where we have a better chance to deal with them.
 
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CanadianSteve

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I just watched the second half of the Wallabies/All Blacks match. I thought Jonah was very impressive when he got the ball, but he didn't get it nearly enough. Wouldn't he get it more in league and so be an even more exciting player? Also I was very impressed with Umaga - a good runner and a tough, hard tackler. I understand he played league when he was younger. What's his contract status now? Any chance of the Warriors/Kiwis getting him?
 
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ozbash

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steve, tana umaga still has 2-3 yrs remaining with his union contract.

jonah would (in my opinion anyway), be great in league. he is the ultimate attacking machine and just his mere prescence on the feild creates room for his team mates as there is usually 2 or 3 opposition players marking him.
wayne smith (all black coach), uses jonah like that. he has him roaming and that draws opposition defence.
i think he will switch to league.
 
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I have absolutely no idae whether or noy he will come to league.
I actually don't think he should be allowed to come to league,unless he signs forthe Dragons.
That would amuse me,Jonah marking Preston Campbell.
Lets face he would brain it in league.
 
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legend

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I think he will come too. I think he is disillusioned with Union and wants to challenge himselfe against some real athletes, not just Larkham and Chris Whittaker.My God!!!!!
 
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ozbash

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the salary cap is not worth the paper its written on.
also , where in the cap does it say you cant pay 1 player 1.5 mill ?
 

Dog-T

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TEKAHA you is a phony douggy. Why is do you continue to is masquerade as a league supporter when it is blatently is clear that you is a union lover. 95% of your is posts are union related and yet you is try and say that you is a league supporter. you is phony, doug.
 
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CanadianSteve

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I found a website for Tana Umaga thru a link on Rugby heaven (sorry). In his profile he says he played league from age 15 on till he went to an NRL club in Sydney - I forget which one. It didn't work out for some reason and he returned home and started playing union, when it was still amateur. He said he is still a fan of league and watches it whenever he can. Too bad for league that it lost him when he was young.
 
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SpaceMonkey

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Dog-T you ignorant shit, get off Tekaha's case. Like most Kiwi's he has a decent knowledge of, (and probably follows to some degree) BOTH rugby codes. Unlike Aussies, we Kiwis can't afford to write off Union as an elitist public schoolboy's minority sport, as it is NZ's national game, and far more popular than League. So while most of the Kiwis on this forum (myself included)regard League as the superior code and our #1 sporting love, we are not going to pretend that we don't know a bit about and follow Union, because that is just the way it is in NZ. To be honest I (and I suspect most of the forum Kiwis) often cringe at some of the blatantly wrong and misinformed comments some of the Aussies on the forum make about Union, they really have no idea. If you are going to criticise it (and I'd often be the first to do so) at least know what you are talking about.
 

Dog-T

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spaced out monkeyassed doug you is ignorant i is don't care if tekaha likes rugby what i is dont like is that he is tries to pretend to be a league homey but nearly EVERY one of his posts is union related doug if you is cant see this then you is a blind douggy who needs to go to the vet and get some eye drops so that he can see clearly

 
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ozbash

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Te Haka ??
hmmmmmmm , , has a nice ring to it......
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Dog-T

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YOu is can say what you want doug i is a bad douggy and my word is law doug

argument over

i is the grandmaster
 

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