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You Lack The Heart to Be Tiger

macnaz

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Lol you want both our halfback options to leave. You're a genius.

Hey ... do u watch our lower grades ..?? GENIUS... regardless if u have 2 ppl that play 1 position and are both f**ked does that mean you keep them ?? Ask Manly and they can answer this question .
 

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Hey ... do u watch our lower grades ..?? GENIUS... regardless if u have 2 ppl that play 1 position and are both f**ked does that mean you keep them ?? Ask Manly and they can answer this question .

Yeah I do mate. If you want to throw Jacob Miller into first grade right now as our 80 minute week in week out halfback when we have Robert Lui and Tim Moltzen as genuine options then you are a dead set genius.
 

leoc

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Ok, some of you must of watched a different game than I did. 1st. Lui sucked more than anything I have ever seen. 2nd. before everyone executes Moltzen due to playing out of position again, I'd love to see him have another go at 7 while Lui is back in reserves. 3rd. Why do we persist with even playing Fulton. 4th. what the hell has Sheens been thinking?? Team seems so disinterested of late. And lastly on a different tack, if the origin selectors can't see that Farah offers so much more than Ennis and Young combined, we deserve to lose every single game to the Queenslanders.
 

macnaz

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Lol you want both our halfback options to leave. You're a genius.
Also maybe this type of attitude is why this club keeps the same failures year after year , i agree mate they are 2 of our options but we have to look at wether they are able to provide what we need.
 

leoc

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Miller is the half of the future but will everyone stop begging for him to get thrown in now. We need to win games for a chance to make the finals, this can't happen if you try to blood a half midway through the season
 

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Ok, some of you must of watched a different game than I did. 1st. Lui sucked more than anything I have ever seen. 2nd. before everyone executes Moltzen due to playing out of position again, I'd love to see him have another go at 7 while Lui is back in reserves. 3rd. Why do we persist with even playing Fulton. 4th. what the hell has Sheens been thinking?? Team seems so disinterested of late. And lastly on a different tack, if the origin selectors can't see that Farah offers so much more than Ennis and Young combined, we deserve to lose every single game to the Queenslanders.
Ill agree that Moltzen could play a lot better at 7 , specialy in defence when the play is a bit slower.... BUT he will not get that chance so i apart from playing seven he is a wimp and adds nothing to this side .... HE JUST CANT BE OUR FULLBACK :(
 

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There are more important problems than Lui mate. Lui has shown enough to indicate he will be a superstar imo. He had a tough game against the best team in the comp marking one of the toughest people to tackle in the game. How bout Liam Fulton being on the field. How about 6 starting players out. How about having 5 forwards under the age of 21 in the side. How about Farah playing injured all season. How about Mitch Brown playing at centre and sucking like a vacuum and lastly, how about Tim Sheens and his near decade of incompetence and non accountability.
 

super_coach

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Moltzen was better today although his defense is still a issue but as Sheens see him as our 2012 no1 we have to stick with him. Their is potential their is someone only can teach him to put his body on the line
 

macnaz

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Yeah I do mate. If you want to throw Jacob Miller into first grade right now as our 80 minute week in week out halfback when we have Robert Lui and Tim Moltzen as genuine options then you are a dead set genius.
Grow up MAC ... what do we have to lose ?? Lui the Soft arse c**k is a only year older .. Moltzen is never going to be given that chance again so why the f**k am i a genius ?? He has more courage then them Both, has a beter kicking game then them both , and can defend better then them both and can also gold kick goals ... the more NRL he gets the better.. Lui has had close to 2 years and is STILL DOING THE SAME PISSWEAK SHIT HE DID WHEN HE STARTED .... :crazy:
 

macnaz

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Moltzen was better today although his defense is still a issue but as Sheens see him as our 2012 no1 we have to stick with him. Their is potential their is someone only can teach him to put his body on the line
You cant teach HEART sorry.. he will be a shit fullback and we all know it.:x
 

MacDougall

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Grow up MAC ... what do we have to lose ?? Lui the Soft arse c**k is a only year older .. Moltzen is never going to be given that chance again so why the f**k am i a genius ?? He has more courage then them Both, has a beter kicking game then them both , and can defend better then them both and can also gold kick goals ... the more NRL he gets the better.. Lui has had close to 2 years and is STILL DOING THE SAME PISSWEAK SHIT HE DID WHEN HE STARTED .... :crazy:

Lol what does this have to do with growing up? What happens if Miller comes in as an 18 year old greenhorn and gets rings ran around him and looks absurd? It's Sheens responsibility that he be weaned into the toughest sport on the planet. Throwing him into the deep end is cruel and irresponsible. Also Lui is 2 and a half years older than Miller.
 

macnaz

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The Growing Up Comment !!! um that has nothing to do with your opinions on our players or our team or your veiw of my thoughts on them ,, but the grow up remark was directed at your genius and GENIUS remarks ..

Can you tell me why as a fellow Tigers supporter , because my views differ from you yours you need need to get personal about it.. ??
 
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Vicious

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How does Ayshford escape criticism? He played well in the finals last season, but hasn`t had one good game this season. He`s far too slow to be a centre, he seems to run the ball ok when moved into the second row, but his arm grabbing defence is a big concern wherever he plays.
Not a bad bench player as he is versatile, but a very ordinary starting player i`m afraid.
He`s not alone, the whole backline 1-5 is very very ordinary without Tuquiri and Lawrence.
The good news is that the forwards showed they can hurt the Dragons by playing agressively. Woods was good, Fifita a massive improvement he `s too big strong & fast for most defenders when he decides to run straight and hard, Dwyer very good and for mine Heighington was the best player on the field. Murdoch-Masila very good and a nice little cameo from young Matt Groat.
The Dragons genuinely fear Benji, if we had some genuine speed out wide he would have created 3 or 4 more tries today, second best player on the field behind Heighington.
 
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How does Ayshford escape criticism? He played well in the finals last season, but hasn`t had one good game this season. He`s far too slow to be a centre, he seems to run the ball ok when moved into the second row, but his arm grabbing defence is a big concern wherever he plays.
Not a bad bench player as he is versatile, but very ordinary starting player i`m afraid.
He`s not alone, the whole backline 1-5 is very very ordinary without Tuquiri and Lawrence.
The good news is that the forwards showed they can hurt the Dragons by playing agressively. Woods was good, Fifita a massive improvement he `s too big strong & fast for most defenders when he decides to run straight and hard, Dwyer very good and for mine Heighington was the best player on the field. Murdoch-Masila very good and a nice little cameo from young Matt Groat.

Like you, I'm often critical of Heighno but today he outperformed a host of rep players. I was cursing Sheens for taking him off for so long and leaving Fulton on the paddock.
 

Magpies Forever

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No doubt Teflon can point out the scoreline and say it was close. Yes, it was numerically, but realistically, WT never looked like beating let alone making the match a real tussle between the 2 sides. WT are not a premiership threat for 2011. The side has continued its misfiring ways, basic mistakes when setting up to attack and poor defence ability.

What can you do when they persistently drop the ball in attack and make damn pathetic attempts at tackling and stopping the opposition? How can Sheens defend continuing with the status quo? Someone from outside the current ranks (both coaching and players) has to assess the whole thing and make public their recommendations so WT board and CEO cant contiue to evade taking responsibility for their choices and continued inaction over the seasons.

My respect remains for all the players that continue to try and put in the effort. You are putting up with a lot. For the others, you need to take a look at yourself and your lack of effort.
 

Magpies Forever

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For the remainder of the season they may as well put Brown / Ryan as fullback. McKinnon is too injury prone and cant be relied on. He is going to ESL in 2012, so why persist? He can fill in, only if needed and he is actually fit.

Give Brown or Ryan a shot at it for the remainder of the season. Things cant get any worse surely.
 

leoc

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Brown has impressed at fullback and makes sense for him to be there. That doesn't mean it will happen as teflon sees things way differently then us. Vicious, Ayshford has been ordinary for the past 4 matches. I just haven't focused on him yet because our half problem is doing my head in.
 
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Our lack of pace out wide showed up again today,opportunities were made but not capitalize upon.Really need two wingers and a centre that can take advantage of Benji's lead up work.
 

Magpies Forever

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Our lack of pace out wide showed up again today,opportunities were made but not capitalize upon.Really need two wingers and a centre that can take advantage of Benji's lead up work.

WT have lacked pace to take advantage of Benji's breaks for a long time now. They dont seem too worried about it though- no efforts look for speed anywhere in backline and leaving ti all for Benji to do.
 

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