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The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

MugaB

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Sydney is a unique town my friend and you would know that if you lived here. We are not like everybody else.

We are lazy, stay at home if there is a whiff of rain, spoilt for choice, live in a city that is a nightmare to get around in and have 3 other major football codes to contend with, not to mention that we have a head office that has no control over the clubs it presides over and they selfishly do nothing major to promote the game as a whole or even their own home games let alone non home games. Add the coaches to the mix of basically muzzling the players from saying anything that might incite the opposition team and you have a lot of forces all working together to keep the game day attendance low and never really getting much bigger then where it currently is.

So yeah, Sydney is unique in many ways and therefore we need a very different and tailor made model that will mollycoddle the Sydney fan enough to make an occasional appearance on game day.

You may not like it, but tough, it is what it is. I for one would love to go even further and see the governments spend billions on rectangular all seater, made for purpose stadiums of all sizes from 3K to 70K throughout the whole nation. Build, build, build. If done right and in the right place where infrastructure of amenities and transport links are next door, then they would be great legacies for all rectangular football codes and the communities they are in. They can be a great asset and not considered a drain on the public purse if planed correctly. I think your mindset is glass half empty and can't see the knock on effect if we build the right facility in the right location and community. These mini stadiums can become the heart of the communities recreational activities and bring in people that would normally not participate or engage in local sports or events being held in or around these new and exciting assets.

Remember a nice new shinny stadium in a local area will foster more business, sponsors and development of shops, bars, restaurants and cafes depending on location. People will feel the buzz. Local clubs that use these facilities could do a hell of a lot of promotion and even door to door knocks and or to schools and sell their brand directly. Remember the majority are small 3K to 12K stadiums. They are community based and don't need to draw tens of thousands of people from a wider community to fill them. Local community competitions and game day events and activities around game day are great ways to entice mum and dads to take the kids out without the hassle of driving or just a stop or two on a train or bus. Local and hassle free while supporting your local team is a great motivator. The community spirit if setup and promoted right would lift through the roof and people would start to develop a great pride in their clubs/team and community. Shops and businesses could and would start to add local club paraphernalia in their premises and add more colour and vibe to the community would start to become common place.

A lot of suburbs are dying for something that can connect their community and bring people together, it is smart business. Smart mini stadium infrastructure is a great business model that sports loving Aussies could get right into if we did it right, but unfortunately we haven't looked into it, because all most people see is the upfront cost. What they haven't thought of is the long term positive legacy and those local communities would swell in pride and loyalty to the clubs and teams that they represent and how it would turn them into life long supporters of those local sporting clubs and all the growth that that would create in support and revenue within their region.

If a government body were to do what I am suggesting here and build a say 8K-10K mini stadium in a strategically advantageous location next door to a train station and shopping centre(commercial centre), then they could use it as a test model and see how the local community responds. It needs to be somewhere where there are second tier league, soccer and union football clubs so that it gets maximum use. Then we can see what people want and what it has contributed to the community socially and economically. But like I said, if done right and in the right place, it should be an outstanding success and then you will see all the local football clubs of all persuasions getting together and putting their collective hands out for their mini stadium funding, just like we saw when Penrith built their privately funded COE and all the other NRL clubs then realised that to compete that they too needed to build their own COE.

Sure I know it is a lot of public money that we are spending on recreational amenities, but if they can return a positive outcome both from a mental and physical health perspective for thousands of participants and spectators alike and be financially profitable, well isn't that partly why we have a social contract with Government in the first place?
You go girl!!! Get dem stadiums... coz you're worth it..
My club got one.. and we live in the stix of sydney... can't see how tigers, dragons and bulldogs aren't getting luv
 
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TheRam

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You're totally in the right tho, every word you said... communities prosper when they have an area for events

Exactly. And governments spending $50m or way less on mini stadiums is cheap over the lifetime of a well cared for and loved facility. You would get at least 30, probably closer to 50+ years out of these builds and when you think of it like that they are a very inexpensive way to stimulate the local economy and build communities socially and economically from the ground up. It is actually a no brainer for me. We love our sports so lets embrace that and build, build, build.

On an off topic thought. My ex-wife once told to she needs to learn to embrace her mistakes and then she hugged me.
 
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Wonder if the SFS2 will have all western seating as corporate boxes like the Bankwest

Most of the corporates are likely to be upstairs like at the "old" SFS. Only Bay 14 (which is behind the players tunnel) is probably going to be reserved for corporates. This is the seating map from the Roosters website -

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Its a no brainer to build the new stadium on the Paceway site. The entire current Penrith Stadium site, including the side training field is approximately 51,500m2. The entire Paceway site is approximately 112,400m2. In comparison, Parramatta Stadium and immediate surrounds is about 70,000m2 - that's not even including O'Connell St carpark or the oval. There would be limitations on the size of stadium on the current site, if keeping with the N-S orientation. No issue if moving to E-W (yes, not ideal)

So as the aim of the new stadium is to also bring with it community & entertainment precinct (think bars/restaurants etc), you will need much more space than the current site has to offer. Penrith Council has stated it wants enhance/extend the CBD precinct down Station St with these same entertainment/recitational activates (again, think of bars/restaurants), along with some commercial.

The Paceway has already expressed its desire to sell off the land for their own future. They have plans to develop it as apartment living (think Cronulla development). However It is currently zoned SP3 (Tourist), and Council quite simply will not be re-zoning it as residential or mixed use.

Part of the treason they need land from the Paceway to do the redevelopment of Panthers Stadium is becauyse just behind the northern hill, runs a channel with a lot of utilities (undergound of course) that cannot be moved contained within.
 

Iamback

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Part of the treason they need land from the Paceway to do the redevelopment of Panthers Stadium is becauyse just behind the northern hill, runs a channel with a lot of utilities (undergound of course) that cannot be moved contained within.

Given the Hotel across the road will be built then. They plan to have more foot traffic from the airport having that area for entertainment does make sense
 

siv

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Most of the corporates are likely to be upstairs like at the "old" SFS. Only Bay 14 (which is behind the players tunnel) is probably going to be reserved for corporates. This is the seating map from the Roosters website -

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Interested that means the lower bowl has less seating, and that was given to the middle bowl, which must corporate seating
 

Jamberoo

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The front row is still 40m from the sideline.
It is ridiculous that Cairns has two reasonable oval stadiums - one for AFL (Cazaly's, probably with better facilities than Barlow) and this one around an athletics track, but no rectangular stadium. Neither of Cairns' RL clubs play @ Barlow. They should be spending money on one of the rectangular stadiums that will actually be used by RL clubs.
 

Canard

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It is ridiculous that Cairns has two reasonable oval stadiums - one for AFL (Cazaly's, probably with better facilities than Barlow) and this one around an athletics track, but no rectangular stadium. Neither of Cairns' RL clubs play @ Barlow. They should be spending money on one of the rectangular stadiums that will actually be used by RL clubs.

The Northern Pride play at Barlow Park, and so are all CDRL Grand Finals and other major finals. Its not great, by any means, but its fine for a regional centre that may host the occasional NRL game.

None of the CDRL clubs play at anything like what you would call a "stadium" so spending money on upgrading their lights for broadcasting would be a waste.
 

TheRam

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Barlow Park in Cairns to get upgraded lights for the Olympics plus to get NRL games back to the venue

Article on Austadiums

Jeez I wonder what happened to its previous ambition for a all new seater stadium? Upgrading of lights is hardly something to get excited about. Very disappointing.

Listen to the audio in the second link.


 
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Perth Red

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They've been talking about a proper rectangular stadium for Cairns for a long time. Problem is whose going to fund the $250mill needed for a stadium that might host 3 or 4 events a year?

Its a shame stadiums are so expensive to build in this country! Brentfords stadium in uk was opened a couple of years ago. Is built on just 31k Sqm, holds 17.5k and cost $125million. Perfect for regional cities
 

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