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Schubert must have a grudge against Parra

Poupou Escobar

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He's been gainfully employed ever since he realised coaching wasn't his go. The ABC, St Joseph's College, now he's the ref's boss.. he just keeps going on to bigger and better things.

Plus who needs the stress of coaching?
 
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Haynzy

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Is it up to him to report the deal to the NRL, or report the deal to the club who then go on to notify the NRL themselves. The latter makes more sense to me. The club would have known well in advance he had a book deal going on or they weren't paying attention.



If it's up to the club to pay attention and ask why isn't it up to the NRL to pay attention and ask?

Every man and his dog knew that Hindy had a book coming out.
 
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eels81236

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If we had played by the rules there would be no issue.

The fact that others have cheated in the past is irrelevant.
 

Eels Dude

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If it's up to the club to pay attention and ask why isn't it up to the NRL to pay attention and ask?

Every man and his dog knew that Hindy had a book coming out.

Isn't that what the NRL did... Hence why the club got a breach notice.
 

1 Eyed TEZZA

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this could well be the only thread in the history of LU where Parra fans unite in a topic...lol

Finally too. This forum has been miserable for a couple of years now.

As mentioned earlier, the Storm are being allowed to sign Finch for minimum wage, while he is playing for big money in the UK.

In the mean time, Shu Shu is saying that we need to pay Folau "market value"..
 

Sphagnum

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We cheated our way to the wooden spoon with a dodgy book deal.

Stop the presses

How can they hold a club responsible for an agreement made between a manager and a publisher? What is the liklihood that they even knew about the financial details of the book deal.

Good on the NRL for adopting the Channel 9 approach and dragging the game through the mud trying to tarnish the reputation of one of its great servants.

D!ckheads
 
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To be fair, the point of sale advertising for Hindy's book (the cover) has him in his Eels kit. The NRLis very clear about third party work being included under the cap where the player is displaying official club paraphernalia.

so what would be the difference if he was shown wearing green and gold or blues gear instead?
 

strider

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Fair point. Melbourne r cheating pricks. Thats pretty much the only fact that matters
 

Maroubra Eel

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Everyone knows the Storm are illegally assembled. The only reason the big 3 are staying is because they've already received their big pay day, illegally.
 

Parra Pride

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Didn't Schubert force the Storm to register players at their contract values rather than allow them to revalue all of their players to fit under the cap as the Bulldogs did?

Yes, there was no "notional value" crap though, they simply had to count all the rorting under the cap.

#DifferentScenario
 

born an eel

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Didn't Schubert force the Storm to register players at their contract values rather than allow them to revalue all of their players to fit under the cap as the Bulldogs did?
which contract? must be hard when you have signed 3 to work out which one is for schubert and which is for your accountant.
 

Joshuatheeel

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which contract? must be hard when you have signed 3 to work out which one is for schubert and which is for your accountant.

I know it has been mentioned many times but its amazing isn't it, players sign more then one contract but know nothing about the rort, neither does the coach. What a lot of bullshxt!!!! The whole affair is a joke!!
 

bileduct

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I know it has been mentioned many times but its amazing isn't it, players sign more then one contract but know nothing about the rort, neither does the coach. What a lot of bullshxt!!!! The whole affair is a joke!!
LOL, the old "hey, they cheated the cap (even though they got caught and were punished) so we should be allowed to cheat too" defense.

Edit: Sorry, I replied to the wrong person.
 
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oldmancraigy

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Didn't Schubert force the Storm to register players at their contract values rather than allow them to revalue all of their players to fit under the cap as the Bulldogs did?

Actually he didn't.

He just forced their 'secret contract' amount to become their 'NRL contract' amount. But he didn't force the Storm to count all their 3rd party deals as part of their contracts.

Example (using pretend numbers):
Cam Smith had an NRL contract lodged @ $400k
Cam Smith had a secret contract of $600k
Cam Smith had a FOXsports deal arranged worth $150k

Instead of valuing him now at $750k (which is what he was getting paid for many years), he was now valued at $600k.
This works out terribly in the case of a player who was currently negotiating a new deal. Instead of forcing them to be valued at a secret contract amount, they can simply present their NRL contract as their agreed amount.


So it wasn't as geniused as the Bulldogs situation, but it wasn't far off it. In both scenarios, the long term systematic rorting lead to the assembly of great squads, and allowing those players to be revalued in any way whatsoever sends the message that cheats prosper (both clubs went on to win premierships with players who they recruited in their illegal days).


Anyway - moot point since what has been done has been done. I just wish the Schu spent a bit less time worrying about $20k book deals for the wooden spooners - seriously! Who cares if we rorted the cap by $1million last season? Didn't seem to help...
 

oldmancraigy

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They were fined $1.7 million, of which there was a $500K penalty (the maximum fine for breaching the salary cap) and the return of $1.2 million in prize money.


The club had to let Greg Inglis go as they could no longer afford him, amongst other players.


It was actually Cameron Smith's contract with Fox Sports that instigated Schubert's investigation of the Storm's books.


The book deal should have been reported to the NRL, end of story.

If you wanna have a whinge at least get some of the facts right.

My facts were all correct enough for the joke.

Learn to read interpetively (I made that word up) and you'll enjoy life a whole lot more.
 

oldmancraigy

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Now that this thread has been bumped:

I REALLY hope that Hindy is valued at $20k more against somebodies cap next time he signs an NRL contract. That'd teach him.
 

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