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A Look at the stats - 8 games in

madunit

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Okay I'm bored.

So here's some stats with my biased view.

Defensively our backs are killing us. It's making our bare bones back row work overtime in defence, covering both their inside and outside man, as well as marking their own man. This has to change fast, otherwise we are only going to get wins when other teams give them to us.

Naturally all fullbacks aren't in a defensive line so their stats are hard to include Needless to say Tedesco's defensive record is better than that of Brett Hodgson's in his time at the club. (Hodgo as well all know would hold up players reaching out for tries every week, yet had a tackle effectiveness % in the high 40's). Tedesco has made 21 tackles and missed 10, with 1 ineffective (65.63%) so not too shabby.

Nofoaluma - 48 made, 15 missed, 4 ineffective - 71.64%
Simona - 59 made, 4 missed, 3 ineffective - 89.39% (he gets a pass)
Naiqama - 109 made - 15 missed, 12 ineffective - 80.15% (the ineffective is a concern, as these are mostly from rushing up and in on his opposite number but not effecting a tackle)
Rankin - 20 made, 7 missed, 2 ineffective - 68.97%
Moses - 84 made, 26 missed, 5 ineffective - 73.04%
Brooks - 56 made, 19 missed, 8 ineffective - 67.47%

These numbers are not good enough

In comparison, Littlejohn played 1 game, made 19 tackles and missed 3 at 86.36%.

Not every half has a % that high, but high 70's should be a target. Ineffective tackles by halves can be forgiven as they have help either side coming in, but missed is a big concern, as they are creating holes.

Another issue - The teams wants to play expansive footy but there's f**k all second phase play. All of our props and back rowers combined have made less offloads than Nofoaluma so far this year. The problem with a winger giving away a heap of offloads is that generally, all the second phase play is only going to head in one direction - back in-field.

Not one Tigers forward has made more than 2 offloads this year.

Our threequarters have made too many errors as well. Nofoaluma leads the way with 9, Naiqama with 7, Brooks has 6, Rankin and Simona have 5.

In good news, our big men are doing well with hit ups. Woods averaging 9 metres per hit up, Ava 8.54m, Sue 8.97m, Grant 8.28m. Backing them up are Aloiai with 8.03m and Lawrence 8.19m

Generally speaking, getting over that 8m per hit up avg is a sign that they are making some extra metres after first contact.

No surprises here, Buchanan coming on against tired men should be doing better. He is averaging 6.25m per hit up. Just no impact. Even Lovett and Halatau are getting half a metre more per hit up and they're smaller.

We have 2 players with more than 20 Tackle Breaks. Tedesco with 40 and Nofoaluma with 41. Naiqama has 19, Rankin 15, Lawrence 10.

Brooks is running the ball more than Moses. He's had 8 runs more despite playing 1 less game. It would seem that when they are playing their natural games, Moses is the 7 and Brooks is the 6.
 

BuffaloRules

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Thanks for the stats.

Surprised at Grants hit up average 8.28m... Thought it would be more...

Obviously Woods has instructions not to offload, but his play the ball speed is subsequently too slow.
 

Tiger05

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We are crap a the moment. It's that simple. We need to go back to the first 2 rounds where the forwards were hitting it up and we had crisp plays out the backs with Tedesco threatening whenever he is close to the ball.
 

madunit

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Tedesco has had less ball and made less metres as the weeks have gone on.
 

madunit

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So I've just done the stats for all the halves this year for all clubs.

We have a few interesting tidbits. First is that we have two naturally running halves, yet our halves have made a combined 65 runs this year, which is one run more than last placed Newcastle. Manly's halves have made 132 runs this year, Brisbane's have made 127.

We have 2 naturally gifted ball runners and they aren't running the ball.

That to me is a coaching issue.

It's more of an issue when you notice that the Tigers halves have touched the ball a total of 707 times this year, while Manly's have 698 touches and Brisbane's 709.

Our halves have also made less running metres than any other club, with 605 metres, second worst is the Titans with 613. The best is Brisbane's with 1066.

Regarding Try Assists, the Tigers halves have a combined total of 8 which ranks them 7th. The Cowboys are at the top with 16 while the Storm are last with just 2.

Our halves also rank last for Tackle Breaks, with 15. Second last is the Titans with 18. Best is Brisbane with 57, followed by Manly with 39.

Again, we rank last for most tackles made, with 219. Second last is two sides, Brisbane and the Cowboys with 230. Souths halves have made the most with 340.

We are equal 14th for Offloads with 5 (tied with Melbourne and Parramatta) and ahead of Cronulla on 3 and the Cowboys with 0. Brisbane tops the list with 20.

We are equal last with Cronulla for Line Breaks, with just 1. Brisbane tops the list with 13, followed by Melbourne with 8

Thanks largely to Luke Brooks, we rank =3rd for Line Break Assists, with 9, alongside the Dogs. Cowboys top the list with 12 while Penrith is last with just 1.

We rank 8th for least handling errors made with 13. Penrith are at the top with 6 while the Dragons are last with 18.

We are equal 3rd for least number of penalties conceded. We've given away 5, as have the Warriors. Canberra and Titans are only 1 better. Cronulla is last with 12

We are second for most missed tackles with 61, The Dragons top the list with 62. Parramatta has missed the least with 22.

This also means, our Tackle effectiveness % is the worst in the comp at 78.21%.
 

madunit

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Lets compare our halves with all the other players now.

There have been 53 players who have started games in the halves this year
Runs per game
Brooks 34th (16/25 for halfbacks)
Moses 50th (27/28 for five-eighths)

Metres per game
Brooks 25th (8/25 for halfbacks)
Moses 46th (27/28 for five-eighths)

Try Assists per game
Brooks =19th (=9/25 for halfbacks)
Moses =22nd (=11/28 for five-eighths)

Tackle Breaks per game
Brooks 23rd (9/25 for halfbacks)
Moses =45th (=23/28 for five-eights)

Tackles Made per game
Moses =38th (21/28 for five-eighths)
Brooks 48th (25/25 for halfbacks)

Offloads per game
Brooks =19th (=10/25 for halfbacks)
Moses =37th (=17/28 for five-eighths)

Line Breaks per game
Moses =32nd (=20/28 for five-eighths)
Brooks =38th (=19/25 for halfbacks)

Line Break Assists per game
Brooks 8th (4/25 for halfbacks)
Moses =12th (=7/28 for five-eighths)

Most Handling Errors per game
Moses =35th (=25/28 for five-eighths)
Brooks 7th (2/25 for halfbacks)

Most missed tackles per game
Moses 11th (25/28 for five-eighths)
Brooks =5th (=23/25 for halfbacks)

Brooks has covered Moses head to head and when compared to his peers at all other clubs in most facets of the game.
 

Tiger05

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Madunit - I look at those stats and see how poor our halves have actually been. Brooks hasn't been good. I think he tries hard but I also think those stats are missing the poor decisions that those two but more Brooks than Moses have made.

I can't blame the coach for the way they are playing. I do blame the coach for how poor we have been as a team.
 
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