Backline Solutions for 2018 all about selection bravery

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  1. mickeylane

    mickeylane Juniors

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    With the wealth of experience we have in the halves and forwards going into season 2018 and the dearth of pace in our backline maybe and I say maybe the solution to all our speed problems lie within ..
    The potential backline below has pace and youth.

    1. Field
    2. Dufty
    3. Aitken
    4. Lafai
    5. MANN

    The back 3 of Field, MANN and Dufty lack size but the pace is phenomenal.. As I said it will need some bravery from the coach to drop Mcdonald and Nightingale but the results could have a min of 5 year legacy due to the players youth.

    Thoughts?
     
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  2. Crush

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    That is still a shit backline compared to storm, roosters, parra, broncos.....
     
  3. mickeylane

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    Not really
     
  4. mobels

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    Haha wow, so you already want to give up on Dufty at fullback?
     
  5. dragonssamy61

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    Mickey
    Your backline is potentially great.But l think we need to pick up a player
    With speed and size for the wing. We need someone to get us 120 to 170 meters every week.
    But other than rona there is no one available.
    I think mann will do a job but lack of meters would be a worry.
    If only McDonald would play to his full potential he would be the answer.
    But he has showed a lack of pace and heart.
    I think herbert is a chance he has done well so far this year. Also I would keep dufty at fullback.
    Field to the bench
    Imo
     
  6. mickeylane

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    No I'm only telling you what Millward has been telling us all year.
    Field will be the 2018 fullback!
    If Lichaa gets picked up there will be no room for a back on the bench .. Dufty quick enough to cover wing if we don't sign one in the interim
     
  7. Crush

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    Really.
    I would say not one of that backline would make any of this years top 4 teams backlines in any positions.
    Do you think any of the top 4 would put lafai in? Broncos saying "nah we will get rid of jimmy the jet or Moga and put Lafai in". Storm trade one of their wingers for Mann?
    Parra trade Radradra for dufty?
    Our backline is rubbish now and if were
    Field, Dufty, lafai, aitken, mann it would be the smallest backline ever assembled in the modern game.
     
  8. 2010

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    Agree Mann should be on one wing, after all when he played there 2016 he was our leading try scorer.
    Field to start is a bit of a worry because he has not have any decent game time even from the bench.
    McIdiot would never have Field in the starting side.
     
  9. mobels

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    No chance Dufty isn't the starting fullback next year barring injury. Field has a huge amount of potential, however he's not as good as Dufty yet.
     
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    Can't agree with you Mickey

    We need dynamic wingers with size, height and pace. Field, Dufty and to a lesser extend Mann will be rag dolled trying to run the ball out from our 10 metre line. I would have signed Isaac Thompson for another 12 months and trialled him next year. Thompson needs a quality coach and staff to get his mental attitude right.

    Mann/Dufty and Field are all competing for the Full Back role or in the case of Mann and Field the halves backup role.

    Aitken/Lafai will do their best but they don't compare with Cooper and Gasnier. That is the standard of Centre the team needs to be a top 4 contender. Hope Lomax and Garrick develop in to representative backs.
     
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    Too small will get murdered on the kick return and will be regularly pinned. Teams will kick to our wings and score almost at will.
     
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  12. Carlton

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    Vunivalu, Addo-Carr, Radradra, Cotric, Don, Rapana these days you need size and blistering speed on the wings. Most forwards now are pretty quick, unlike even a couple of years ago and average pace on the wings is now just not going to cut it. This is why we cant score long range tries, we make breaks but don't have the speed to go on with it.

    But its not enough to just have speed they also have to have size to take hitups and to be able to power over the line. Good wingers have great fends and are very strong through the hips. Find the bodies and then turn them into stars, this is what Melbourne do.
     
  13. Crush

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    Great Post. Thankyou.
     
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    Find the bodies and then turn them into stars, this is what Melbourne do.

    Because they have a coach who can, we have a goose who would be unable to fly!!!
     
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    If we don't sign anyone I would be taking a punt on Lomax or Masters on the wing both big strong lads.

    The year will start like this

    Dufty
    McDonald
    Aitken
    Lafai
    Nightingale

    But could look like this by the end of the year

    Dufty
    Lomax
    Aitken
    Lafai
    Mann

    I still think we need to pick up one ot two more outside backs at least as I don't see either of the above pushing the top sides.

    Watching Lomax this year he has everything Cotric has just needs a big off season.
     
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  17. The Damo

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    Not to disagree with your other points, but Bennett might well choose Lafai, the shit he gets on here is way out of proportion.
    Lafai Vs Moga vs Roberts
    Try assists
    L 11 M 5 R 5
    Line break assists
    L 18 M 10 R 2
    Tries
    L 7 M 9 R 17
    Tackle breaks
    L 75 M 82 R 98
    Missed tackles
    L 31 M 45 R 36
    Line breaks
    L 9 M 10 R 14
    Offloads
    L 64 M 19 R 17
    Hit ups
    L 17 M 10 R 6
    All run metres
    L 3173 M 3673 R 3081
    Minutes
    L 1913 M 2007 R 1922
    They're different style of players, but hard to make a case he's contributed less than either of those two.
     
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  18. Drag Queen

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    Go Crush!
     
  19. Crush

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    Mate, we have seen what stats mean this year. On stats Dragons should have been top 4!
    I would take Roberts or Moga any day over Lafai....
     
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  20. Carlton

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    couldn't agree more
     

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