News Do you care if Israel Folau returns to the NRL?

[BM1979]

The source of the content isn't relevant, you are failing to understand.

The content itself discriminates, regardless of its origin. He is being punished because of the content.

You didn't answer the question.

Why do you defend the right to discriminate? Why should 'everyone be fair game'?

Why do you feel it is so important to have the right to make others feel less than?

The content does not discriminate mate. There is actual legislation regarding discrimination and unless Israel’s actions breach these laws you cannot just claim it discriminates .

I told you why mate . I don’t feel I should have the right to anything . I feel EVERYONE should have the right to express their beliefs aslong as they don’t breach any laws.

People get offended at a lot of things . Christ look at the threads in this very forum regarding players and the abuse and accusations made at them .

It is part of life and to pretend that you can protect people from hearing things they don’t want to hear is never a world that will exist .

I am all for protecting people from actual discrimination but I am not for protecting people from hearing views they disagree with. People literally only care about minority groups and it’s ridiculous , Alcoholism is a disease but nobody gives a shit about Israel calling them out or all the other groups he targeted.

If you want to be tough on discrimination let’s actually target real discrimination Lets go protest outside Fernwood gyms or Men’s sheds or Rape Crisis centres who won’t accept Male victims.

 

[Timmah]

The content does not discriminate mate.

I stopped after this.

If you don't think the content discriminates by suggesting a group of people should go to hell based on their sexuality then you are beyond reason.

 

[Timmah]

If the legal principal and related breach by Izzy was as clear cut and simplistic as many on here are saying then a hearing scheduled for one day would not now be in day three with a possibility of being extended further.

Read back through the last couple of pages. This has been covered and doesn't deliver surety to one side or another.

 

[BM1979]

Nothing is going to change your mind. Homophobia is thy

The source of the content isn't relevant, you are failing to understand.

The content itself discriminates, regardless of its origin. He is being punished because of the content.

You didn't answer the question.

Why do you defend the right to discriminate? Why should 'everyone be fair game'?

Why do you feel it is so important to have the right to make others feel less than?

You literally also just felt proved how much of a hypocrite you are , you carry on about why I have a right to make people feel like shit but then like a post that calls me a homophobe even though all I have done is express my views that Israel has the right to express his beliefs and multiple times stated I do not agree with them .

You are just a typical hypicritical SJW beta male pussy

 

[BM1979]

I stopped after this.

If you don't think the content discriminates by suggesting a group of people should go to hell based on their sexuality then you are beyond reason.

Discrimination is governed by law ffs . I can’t help that you are a simpleton

He also never should they “should” go to hell , now you are just making shit up

 

[Fangs]

I welcome the rapture to end this thread.

 

[SBD82]

You are just a typical hypicritical SJW beta male pussy

Look out fellas. There’s an alpha here. And he has a keyboard.

 

[BM1979]

Look out fellas. There’s an alpha here. And he has a keyboard.

Nah , just a phone actually

 

[carcharias]

Nah , just a phone actually

Haha

 

[Timmah]

Discrimination is governed by law ffs . I can’t help that you are a simpleton

He also never should they “should” go to hell , now you are just making shit up

That's a headscratcher if there ever was one. We can only call something discriminatory if it is legally upheld in a court?

Lay people can't be of the opinion something is discriminatory now?

I thought you were about freedom of speech but now apparently I can't call what Folau shared discriminatory because it doesn't pass your definition?

And he said "hell awaits you". If you don't interpret that as a condemnation then you remain beyond reason.

 

[CliffyIsGod]

Discrimination is governed by law ffs . I can’t help that you are a simpleton

He also never should they “should” go to hell , now you are just making shit up

You are a simpleton and a bigot. End of.

 

[BM1979]

That's a headscratcher if there ever was one. We can only call something discriminatory if it is legally upheld in a court?

Lay people can't be of the opinion something is discriminatory now?

I thought you were about freedom of speech but now apparently I can't call what Folau shared discriminatory because it doesn't pass your definition?

And he said "hell awaits you". If you don't interpret that as a condemnation then you remain beyond reason.

In regards to discrimination it would be the religion that is being discriminatory not FOLAU .You keep saying the source does not matter but they are the creators of the discriminatory practises not FOLAU.

I am not using my definition , I am going off the Anti Discrimination Act . It is the only definition that matters .

I am for free speech but also have no issues with laws to protect against instances of inciting violence.

Would you be ok with me going around and calling you a rapist because under my definition you are , as a Layperson .

Legal definitions are important . If you want to call him offensive or a bigot then sure but stating he discriminated is just plain false

 

[BM1979]

You are a simpleton and a bigot. End of.

Geez you lot are touchy. How dare anyone think differently to me . Not one of you can show me how he has discriminated against anybody according to law so you just try to shut me down by calling me a bigot so you can look all righteous

 

[CliffyIsGod]

Geez you lot are touchy. How dare anyone think differently to me . Not one of you can show me how he has discriminated against anybody according to law so you just try to shut me down by calling me a bigot so you can look all righteous

You know the mark of low human being like yourself? Absolute sound reasoning in your face but you cannot change your opinion on something and completely set in your ways. I feel sorry for you.

 

[Pommy]

The content is a religious belief though . He is being punished for expressing HIS personal religious belief . It is simple to understand .

He is not being punished HE signed a contract saying he would uphold the views of ARU. He has decided he didn’t want to keep up how end of the contract after being warned once. Why should the ARU pay him? If he decides not to play should the still pay him? Which part of his contract should he be held to?

This has nothing to do with religion or freedom of speech, it’s very simple to understand.

 

[BM1979]

You know the mark of low human being like yourself? Absolute sound reasoning in your face but you cannot change your opinion on something and completely set in your ways. I feel sorry for you.

By sound meaning, you mean using the dictionary definition of a word over something like you know , Legislation .

The fact remains he did nothing that discriminated against anybody. I am sorry that hurts your feelings dude .

 

[CliffyIsGod]

By sound meaning, you mean using the dictionary definition of a word over something like you know , Legislation .

The fact remains he did nothing that discriminated against anybody. I am sorry that hurts your feelings dude .

You stay as closed minded as you are. I hope it works out for you.

 

[Pommy]

Nah it’s really not that simple , hence Rugby Australia already trying to settle with Folau. If they were that confident in their decision they wouldn’t be offering him a cent

When you finish work today stand at the front of the business and shout the kind of things IF put on Twitter and see if you have a job at the end of the week.

 

[BM1979]

You stay as closed minded as you are. I hope it works out for you.

I am close minded . I am telling you to look in the Discrimination act and tell me how he discriminated against anybody .

I am actually asking people to show me the legislation because I can’t find any but I am getting called close minded.

You don’t even want to look at the laws and are accusing others of being close minded .

The irony is hilarious

 

[BM1979]

When you finish work today stand at the front of the business and shout the kind of things IF put on Twitter and see if you have a job at the end of the week.

Why would I do that , that is not what Folau did .

I have openly stated to gay colleagues at work that I believe Israel has the right to say what he did and not lose his contract . Funnily enough most agreed with me and joked about not caring about some gay hating sky fairy and that hell sounded like more fun anyway .