June 2 D-day

[Wb1234]

I am as happy with the bears returning as for png and nz2 to come in

I will actually watch their games now

and again they go from zero value to tv to being a valuable addition to the nrl

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Not if Perth own the license or a majority

Who would represent Perth?

The only bid we know of is the consortium run by Cumins.

How can Cumins' consortium and the Bears work together after the comments he made to the press?

The WA Gov said they will not own or run the team.

That leaves NRLWA, which is owned by the ARLC.

Does the ARLC want the burden of having a stake in an NRL club?

 

[Wb1234]

Who would represent Perth?

The only bid we know of is the consortium run by Cumins.

How can Cumins' consortium and the Bears work together after the comments he made to the press?

The WA Gov said they will not own or run the team.

That leaves NRLWA, which is owned by the ARLC.

Does the ARLC want the burden of having a stake in an NRL club?

Perth business guys 80 percent
North Sydney 20 percent

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Perth business guys 80 percent
North Sydney 20 percent

It could happen, but I'll believe it when I see it.

Both sides will need to make significant concessions for it to work.

I remember when the media were all in on the Perth Bears as the 18th team. That turned out to be wrong and ended up being replaced with articles about the Bears siding with Pasifika and PNG. Around 7 or 8 years ago we had the media going into over drive about the Gold Coast Bears replacing the Gold Coast Titans. At one stage we had the media saying the next three teams would be PNG, North Sydney and Newtown.

 

[Perth Red]

Perth business guys 80 percent
North Sydney 20 percent

Bears will need to show a lot more than they have so far.
if cumins has got the mOney behind him then Perth will be in, bears or no bears. Without Perth the bears will be forever more a feeder club to other nrl clubs.

so far I haven’t seen them offer anything concrete more than a perth club could get by partnering with a myriad of other second tier clubs,

if they want 20% ownership then they can pony up $10 mill to help with start up costs.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Bears will need to show a lot more than they have so far.
if cumins has got the mOney behind him then Perth will be in, bears or no bears. Without Perth the bears will be forever more a feeder club to other nrl clubs.

so far I haven’t seen them offer anything concrete more than a perth club could get by partnering with a myriad of other second tier clubs,

if they want 20% ownership then they can pony up $10 mill to help with start up costs.

A few meetings between V'landys and Cook doesn't mean Perth is guaranteed a licence. The fact V'landys is still pushing for "Perth Bears", despite Cumins wanting a team for years, and only after PNG has been admitted, isn't a ringing endorsement for Perth.

Peter Cumins' comments about Western Australians not accepting a team from Sydney that plays games at NSO could hurt Perth's chances of getting a team. If I was the Bears I wouldn't want to deal with Cumins' consortium after he basically said they doesn't want anything to do with a Sydney club.

It's a bit rich for a pawnbroker to turn his nose up at a team from the second tier of NSW being relocated to Perth. He's made a living selling secondhand products to people around the world, yet he will only accept a "brand new" team for Perth?

 

[Bukowski]

Bears will need to show a lot more than they have so far.
if cumins has got the mOney behind him then Perth will be in, bears or no bears. Without Perth the bears will be forever more a feeder club to other nrl clubs.

so far I haven’t seen them offer anything concrete more than a perth club could get by partnering with a myriad of other second tier clubs,

if they want 20% ownership then they can pony up $10 mill to help with start up costs.

They have resources. But don't ask any more questions about that. It's just resources ok!

 

[Nuke]

Bring back Perth Reds, send the Bears to PNG

Unfortunately they can't have that name anymore. The name 'Perth Reds' now belongs to a volleyball club.

 

[Centy Coast]

Bears will need to show a lot more than they have so far.
if cumins has got the mOney behind him then Perth will be in, bears or no bears. Without Perth the bears will be forever more a feeder club to other nrl clubs.

so far I haven’t seen them offer anything concrete more than a perth club could get by partnering with a myriad of other second tier clubs,

if they want 20% ownership then they can pony up $10 mill to help with start up costs.

Perth need the Bears, imagine if another strain of Covid hit and you shut your whole State down again because of a little cold lol.
The Perth Bears can then play all of their games out of North Sydney Oval and Central Coast Stadium until the zombie virus has disappeared again.
Sorry I couldn’t help myself, any of you WA people had Covid yet ?.
If not the Bears will bring it across with us.

 

[Centy Coast]

A few meetings between V'landys and Cook doesn't mean Perth is guaranteed a licence. The fact V'landys is still pushing for "Perth Bears", despite Cumins wanting a team for years, and only after PNG has been admitted, isn't a ringing endorsement for Perth.

Peter Cumins' comments about Western Australians not accepting a team from Sydney that plays games at NSO could hurt Perth's chances of getting a team. If I was the Bears I wouldn't want to deal with Cumins' consortium after he basically said they doesn't want anything to do with a Sydney club.

It's a bit rich for a pawnbroker to turn his nose up at a team from the second tier of NSW being relocated to Perth. He's made a living selling secondhand products to people around the world, yet he will only accept a "brand new" team for Perth?

Peter Cumins’ comments were made on Saturday this is no doubt V’Landys response to those comments.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Cumins’ comments were made on Saturday this is no doubt V’Landys response to those comments.

What are the odds of both parties agreeing to join forces?

It sounds like Cumins' consortium isn't keen on a Sydney club relocating to Perth. Some one needs to remind these people they need the Bears just as much as the Bears need them.

 

[final say]

It could happen, but I'll believe it when I see it.

Both sides will need to make significant concessions for it to work.

I remember when the media were all in on the Perth Bears as the 18th team. That turned out to be wrong and ended up being replaced with articles about the Bears siding with Pasifika and PNG. Around 7 or 8 years ago we had the media going into over drive about the Gold Coast Bears replacing the Gold Coast Titans. At one stage we had the media saying the next three teams would be PNG, North Sydney and Newtown.

You forgot South Island Bears..

 

[final say]

Cumins’ comments were made on Saturday this is no doubt V’Landys response to those comments.

I see

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

You forgot South Island Bears..

South Island Bears is better than Perth Bears. Colour scheme suits the Christchurch market.

 

[final say]

South Island Bears is better than Perth Bears. Colour scheme suits the Christchurch market.

The trouble is that the Bears want games played there... the South Island and NZ need more games, not less.

 

[Perth Red]

Nobody wants the Bears, PNG said no, Perth said no, you think Christchurch want them? Theres only stuck in the 80's Vlandys and an out of touch PM that does lol
Maybe they should take the hint and change their arrogant approach?

 

[Nuke]

Nobody wants the Bears, PNG said no, Perth said no, you think Christchurch want them? Theres only stuck in the 80's Vlandys and an out of touch PM that does lol
Maybe they should take the hint and change their arrogant approach?

... and get rid of (most of, if not all of) their non-negotiables.

 

[Wb1234]

It could happen, but I'll believe it when I see it.

Both sides will need to make significant concessions for it to work.

I remember when the media were all in on the Perth Bears as the 18th team. That turned out to be wrong and ended up being replaced with articles about the Bears siding with Pasifika and PNG. Around 7 or 8 years ago we had the media going into over drive about the Gold Coast Bears replacing the Gold Coast Titans. At one stage we had the media saying the next three teams would be PNG, North Sydney and Newtown.

@Centy Coast has been talking about the bears making a lot of concessions

apparently they aren’t even asking for a minority shareholding in the bid which I personally don’t believe

The fact Cummins hasn’t been spoken too but the bears have been kept in the loop makes me feel the bears are in a strong position

 

[Wb1234]

Perth pirates = no value for broadcasters
Perth bears = genuine value for broadcasters

 

[Perth Red]

Perth pirates = no value for broadcasters
Perth bears = genuine value for broadcasters

Out of interested why do you think that? Do you think more people in Sydney and Brisbane will tune in to watch the Perth Bears than the WC Pirates? What makes you think that once the first year novelty has worn off? I dont see any major Sydney uplift in tv audience when the sharks or manly play v when Melbourne or Brisbane play?