Rule tweaks incoming?

[Someguy]

After all the effort by the NRL to make the short kickoff/dropout the default low risk play it seems that Manly has upset the apple cart. Who would have thought that the strategy could be nullified by just pulling a challenge and pinging the inevitable offside player. I am expecting tweaks around what can be challenged in the coming weeks

 

[firechild]

Manly weren't challenging the offside. Not sure if the challenge would have been successful but the ball definitely bounced off Turbo's head, it may have also hit his hand. The workaround for the NRL is to only look at what was challenged rather than the whole play (which arguably is how it should work anyway).

 

[ayatollah_murdoch]

Or teams can just stay onside....

 

[Fangs]

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[taste2taste]

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I once read an account of a jousting tournament in mediaeval England, over 3 days, one dozen dead, another dozen permanently incapacitated, about another dozen would die in the following month from wounds received. Wildly popular and playing to massive crowds.

I also wonder whether one day people will look back on contact sports and say `you know people used to get knocked-out regularly during those events, unbelievable !`

 

[taste2taste]

‘Terrible way to start a game’: Ugly kick-off KO revives debate as coach predicts rule change

‘See it too often’: Ugly kick-off KO fuels debate as coach predicts change is coming

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I'm convinced contact sports won't exist in 50 years, a recent study found 12 yr old Gridiron players suffered an average 200 sub concussions a season, NFL players suffered between 1,000 to 1,500 per season, it's estimated league and Union players suffer even more.

Here's a few rules I can guarantee will happen within 5 years.

Copying the NFL, kick offs from the 40m, no running start allowed from the defence, if the kick off is caught in goal the offence will get a 7 tackle set starting from the 20m. This will drastically decrease the kick off collisions.

Smart mouth guards will be compulsory ( currently being trailed in Union )

Tackles bellow the nipples ( hehe)

Compulsory wearing of Halo headgear which reduces sub concussions by 60%

Defence only has to get back 5m

Players suffering concussions stand down 3 weeks as per recent recommendations by leading Neurologists.

 

[Rising from the Ashes]

Kickoffs wouldn't even account for 1% of total HIA's in the game, its a carry on about nothing.

 

[gerg]

Wasn't this one of the counter-arguments when the shoulder charge was banned? More head collisions?

 

[yobbo84]

How about first banning a certain individual from leading with his forarm high every single run

 

[Bazal]

How about first banning a certain individual from leading with his forarm high every single run

Yeah they gotta do something about Latrell.

Oh you mean from a kick off...

 

[T-Boon]

Go back to 5 metres.

 

[T-Boon]

They should make kick offs safer and more exciting. They are one of the most predictable things in the game. Kick to 10m to side of post, catch, pass to big fella, tackled on about 20m line. Every time.

 

[Maximus]

I'd expect in the next year or 2 the NRL will adopt something similar to the NFL's new kick off rules. The kicker still kicks from halfway, but the rest of the team on the 30m line and can't move until the ball is caught/hits the ground.

 

[Fangs]

They should make kick offs safer and more exciting. They are one of the most predictable things in the game. Kick to 10m to side of post, catch, pass to big fella, tackled on about 20m line. Every time.

Yes but they've done that already with the new rule change.

You'd need to kick off from the opposition 20. Up your alley I'm sure.

 

[Chins get the wins]

This anti kick-off agenda from NewsCorp is bizarre stuff.

 

[firechild]

I'd expect in the next year or 2 the NRL will adopt something similar to the NFL's new kick off rules. The kicker still kicks from halfway, but the rest of the team on the 30m line and can't move until the ball is caught/hits the ground.

So you think they would change rules to encourage the short dropout but stop the short kick-off? Makes sense. If anything I would think rule changes to encourage more short kick-offs would alleviate the problem of kick-off head injuries.

 

[Maximus]

So you think they would change rules to encourage the short dropout but stop the short kick-off? Makes sense. If anything I would think rule changes to encourage more short kick-offs would alleviate the problem of kick-off head injuries.

There's a reason we don't have short kick-offs 99% of the time like dropouts despite having the same rule change.

And just like the NFL still allows the onside kick, the short kick-off would still be able to happen.

 

[taste2taste]

Kickoffs wouldn't even account for 1% of total HIA's in the game, its a carry on about nothing.

It would be interesting to get a break down of HIA from kick offs and is it the ball carrier or defender that gets the head knock.

Either way, having these collisions at full speed isn't good for the brain and almost certainly each kick off results in a couple of sub concussions.

Watching the local A grade this weekend it's amazing they haven't banned kick offs at this level. The collisions were enormous, these guys are suffering just as many head knocks as the professionals but with out a Dr sideline to access them and pull them off the field.

 

[Danish]

Personally I think the only logical outcome is to ban contact entirely. No no, not touch football. That involves contact you barbarians!

the winner of all games shall be determined by the coin toss. Safest way to ensure no one gets hurt

 

[snickers007]

Copying the NFL, kick offs from the 40m, no running start allowed from the defence, if the kick off is caught in goal the offence will get a 7 tackle set starting from the 20m. This will drastically decrease the kick off collisions.

I reckon this is fairly close, but they I think they need to incentivise short kicks, rather than just penalise long kicks. And I think they need to continue to kick-off from halfway.

One way to do that is to offer a dynamic tackle count based on where the kick lands.
- Kick lands between 40m -> 20m, it's a 4 tackle set.
- Kick lands between 20m -> 0m, it's a 6 tackle set.
- Kick lands in the in-goal, it's a 20m restart, 7 tackles.

Also allow the receiving team to touch the ball before it travels 10m (they must be on/behind the 40m line when the kick occurs to be onside)

This adds a genuine risk vs reward dynamic to each kick-off, but also balances the advantages between the kicking and defending teams.