Super League 2023 discussion

[taste2taste]

Yeh it’s the 4th biggest rugby comp in world by attendance

tv has been interesting, one of the things holding SL back has been lack of fta exposure. Challenge cup on bbc gets around 1million viewers. This year for first time SL has been in fta for a few games on ch4 and rated well. From next year every game is going to be available for first time ever. Ch4 is getting more games and we are waiting to hear what SL will do with the remaining ones not in sky each week.

Channel 4’s staggering viewing figures for all Super League games in 2023 so far

FIVE live Channel 4 games down and five huge figures recorded. Since the start of the 2022 Super League season, the terrestrial broadcaster has become one of the most popular viewing stations for r…

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Thanks for posting, Adam Hills would be an awsome host that's encouraging to see that games will be on fta, sports can't grow if they are hidden behind a paywall.

Last question ( for now ) how do today's crowds compare with crowds from leagues hey day ? I remember seeing highlights on Wide World of Sports of packed stadiums watching those great Wigan and St Helen teams, am I remembering this with Rose coloured glasses ? Or were the 80s when the game was at its highest ?

 

[Perth Red]

Thanks for posting, Adam Hills would be an awsome host that's encouraging to see that games will be on fta, sports can't grow if they are hidden behind a paywall.

Last question ( for now ) how do today's crowds compare with crowds from leagues hey day ? I remember seeing highlights on Wide World of Sports of packed stadiums watching those great Wigan and St Helen teams, am I remembering this with Rose coloured glasses ? Or were the 80s when the game was at its highest ?

The ch4 coverage has been a breath of fresh air compared to the second class citizen sky treats the sport pr the amateurish bbc. id love them to get a game every friday night, sky Saturday night and Sunday afternoon games and the other 3 games on a streaming platform.
the game in uk and France will struggle until they can get another decent tv deal. It’s dropped from the SL days of around 70million pound to this deal of 20million pound with sky. It’s cutting the clubs throats and making the second and third divisions totally unviable.

 

[Perth Red]

Round 27 saw Super League clubs break the 1.5 million mark for cumulative attendances over the season, the first time in five years that figure has been reached and the highest by far since the competition reduced the number of games per campaign in 2019.

Across 162 games and 27 rounds in 2023, the average crowd attending each fixture has fallen just shy of 9260. That’s only the fifth time that the average has surpassed the 9000 barrier since the birth of Super League back in 1996. It’s also an increase of above 10% when compared to last term.

Ranked: Every Super League club's average attendance in 2023 as crowds rise with records aplenty broken

Round 27 saw Super League clubs break the 1.5 million mark for cumulative attendances over the season, the first time in five years that figure has been hit

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[Brian potter]

Let’s not forget that people are still feeling the affects of the cost of living crisis which has somewhat eased of late but has affected people’s standard of living for nearly two years.

 

[Brian potter]

Season crowd avg’s


1st: Leeds - 13,770
2nd: Wigan 13,497
3rd: St Helens - 12,782
4th: Hull FC - 12,364
5th: Warrington - 10,887
6th: Catalans - 9,062
7th: Hull KR - 8,770
8th: Leigh - 7,253
9th: Castleford - 7,185
10th: Salford - 5,291
11th: Huddersfield - 5,247
12th: Wakefield - 4,303

Those crowd figures for both Leeds and hull fc are pretty impressive considering the poor season both clubs have had this year and for the last couple of seasons.

usual poor crowds for the likes of Salford and Huddersfield which aren’t helped by their stadium issues.

 

[Perth Red]

Those crowd figures for both Leeds and hull fc are pretty impressive considering the poor season both clubs have had this year and for the last couple of seasons.

usual poor crowds for the likes of Salford and Huddersfield which aren’t helped by their stadium issues.

Yeh we may not have the most fans in RL but they are pretty passionate bunch! For a city the size of hull (261k) having over 20k avg attending SL games is pretty impressive,

 

[Perth Red]

Epic whinge by Leigh owner over the wigan result lol

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[Brian potter]

Mostly east hull and the Holderness area.

It always baffles me why both hull clubs don’t target the north and north east Lincolnshire areas for potential fans and players.

or maybe they do?

 

[Brian potter]

Yeh we may not have the most fans in RL but they are pretty passionate bunch! For a city the size of hull (261k) having over 20k avg attending SL games is pretty impressive,

What do you think KR’s ceiling is in terms of attendances?

it’s a shame that hull is somewhat geographically isolated compared to other clubs in Yorkshire like Leeds or super league era Bradford who have large settlements surrounding them within a 10-15 miles radius.

 

[Perth Red]

What do you think KR’s ceiling is in terms of attendances?

it’s a shame that hull is somewhat geographically isolated compared to other clubs in Yorkshire like Leeds or super league era Bradford who have large settlements surrounding them within a 10-15 miles radius.

Hard to say, stadium is currently around 10k but everyone wants to be in east stand so its pretty chockers! Also we don’t get many travelling fans come to Hull so both clubs suffer from that. We took 1500 to Wakefield last Sunday!

east stand extension (1500) and new west stand planned with some continued success and we can def be pushing for 10k avg I reckon. The craven st area at south end has been a huge success for pre and post game drinks.

 

[Brian potter]

Hard to say, stadium is currently around 10k but everyone wants to be in east stand so its pretty chockers! Also we don’t get many travelling fans come to Hull so both clubs suffer from that. We took 1500 to Wakefield last Sunday!

would be great to see KR regularly crack 10k a season and with regular success i.e. Challenge cup wins and top 4 finishes it’s more than doable.

east stand extension (1500) and new west stand planned with some continued success and we can def be pushing for 10k avg I reckon. The craven st area at south end has been a huge success for pre and post game drinks.

are these stadium upgrades confirmed?

 

[Perth Red]

would be great to see KR regularly crack 10k a season and with regular success i.e. Challenge cup wins and top 4 finishes it’s more than doable.

are these stadium upgrades confirmed?

There’s a big master plan now the club own the stadium and surrounding land. first cab off the rank is a 1million pound training pitch at the south end which is under way, then new training facilities at that end of the land.
The club have said replacing the west stand is the next priority as more and better corporate suites are needed and the full season memberships for west stand seating sells out every year. After that hopefully it’ll be the east stand extension.

Hull KR planning major expansion to Super League stadium

HULL KR are planning a major stadium expansion to their Super League venue, Craven Park. That’s according to Robins’ chief executive Paul Lakin who spoke at the recent fans’ forum…

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[Brian potter]

There’s a big master plan now the club own the stadium and surrounding land. first cab off the rank is a 1million pound training pitch at the south end which is under way, then new training facilities at that end of the land.
The club have said replacing the west stand is the next priority as more and better corporate suites are needed and the full season memberships for west stand seating sells out every year. After that hopefully it’ll be the east stand extension.

Hull KR planning major expansion to Super League stadium

HULL KR are planning a major stadium expansion to their Super League venue, Craven Park. That’s according to Robins’ chief executive Paul Lakin who spoke at the recent fans’ forum…

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Cool.

the west stand is the old grandstand?

 

[Perth Red]

Cool.

the west stand is the old grandstand?

The main seated stand.



this shows the master plan and the big parcel of land we now own. Lots of opportunity. It’s no coincidence we now have some major development company owners join our board!

https://www.hull.gov.uk/sites/hull/files/media/Editor%20-%20Planning/SPD17%20Craven%20Park.pdf

 

[Brian potter]

The main seated stand.

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this shows the master plan and the big parcel of land we now own. Lots of opportunity. It’s no coincidence we now have some major development company owners join our board!

https://www.hull.gov.uk/sites/hull/files/media/Editor%20-%20Planning/SPD17%20Craven%20Park.pdf

With a new west stand that should take the capacity of craven park to around 15k.

right?

Good to see a traditional club getting its act together and doing well both on and off the pitch.

 

[Perth Red]

With a new west stand that should take the capacity of craven park to around 15k.

right?

Good to see a traditional club getting its act together and doing well both on and off the pitch.

Depends on design and how many corporate boxes are in it but should add at least another 2000 seats the. 1800 with the east stand extension gets us around 14k.that’ll be plenty for us, we’ve never cracked more than 9k avg in our history.

 

[Perth Red]

For all the noise about Wigan crowds being the highest all season. It does turn out that even with their success, they are not No1!

SUPER LEAGUE AVERAGE ATTENDANCE COMPARISONS AS HULL FC AND HULL KR BOTH INCREASE FIGURES

Once again, LEEDS RHINOS have recorded the biggest season average at 13,770, an 830 jump on last year. Wigan, St Helens and Hull FC make up the top four.

2022 TO 2023 CLUB COMPARISONS
Leeds | 2022: 12,940 | 2023: 13,770 |
Difference: 830 | 6.41% increase

Wigan | 2022: 12,278 | 2023: 13,497 |
Difference: 1,219 | 9.93% increase

St Helens | 2022: 11,851 | 2023: 12,782 |
Difference: 931 | 7.86% increase

Hull FC | 2022: 10,763 | 2023: 12,364 |
Difference: 1,601 | 14.88% increase

Warrington | 2022: 8,719 | 2023: 10,887 |
Difference: 2,168 | 24.86% increase

Catalans | 2022: 8,068 | 2023: 9,062 |
Difference: 994 | 12.32% increase

Hull KR | 2022: 7,788 | 2023: 8,770 |
Difference: 982 | 12.61% increase

Toulouse 2022: 4,974 | Leigh 2023: 7,253 |
Difference: 2,279 | 45.82% increase

Castleford | 2022: 7,542 | 2023: 7,185 |
Difference: -357 | 4.73% decrease

Salford | 2022: 4,529 | 2023: 5,291 |
Difference: 762 | 16.82% increase

Huddersfield | 2022: 5,144 | 2023: 5,247 |
Difference: 103 | 2.00% increase

Wakefield | 2022: 4,613 | 2023: 4,303 |
Difference: -310 | 6.72% decrease

The Super League competition has enjoyed a spike in crowds this season.
The average Super League attendance has increased in 2023, with more than 1,000 more fans enjoying the competition's live action each week.
The season average was announced last week as 9,270, a considerable jump on last year's average of 8,267 and the biggest in over a decade, showing that crowds within the sport are on the up once again.
In fact, ten of Super League's dozen clubs have seen attendance increases this season, with the biggest jump coming at newly promoted Leigh Leopards.
Recording a season average of 7,253, they have had a 45.82% increase on the average of Toulouse Olympique (4,974) in 2022, with the Leythers enjoying their best-ever season in the modern-era.
The second-biggest jump was at Warrington Wolves, who almost boosted their average attendance by an extra quarter.
They recorded an average of 10,887, a 2,168 jump and 24.86% increase on 2022's figure of 8,719
The Black and Whites recorded a season average of 12,364, a 14.88% increase on 2022 with 1,601 more fans taking in the action at MKM Stadium.
Over in East Hull, Hull KR also saw a 12.61% increase, with an average of 8,770 recorded, 982 more than in 2022. In total, 21,134 people on average watched rugby league in the city of Hull, a 2,583 jump on the 18,551 average last season.

 

[Perth Red]

Hull KR overcame a strong Leigh team in front of a sold out Craven Park to be first team to progress through to the semis.

 

[Perth Red]

 

[Perth Red]

St Helens overcome a brave Warrington side 16-8 to take the last semi place. Fitting James Roby got to play his 550th and last game at home. What a champion.

semis

Catalans Dragons v St Helens Friday night
Wigan Warriors v Hull KR Saturday