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fish eel

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Moffo said:
its a footballing nursery sooper. more kids play football out here then in any other part of australia (as far as im aware)

a number of them played all their junior footy at marconi, not just the seniors
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Yes, Marconi did and have produced some great players. In fact, some of those great Marconi sides would probably give an a-league side a run. As would they great melbourne knights side that had Viduka and Tiatto in it.

See, I'm not one to dismiss the contribution Marconi made. I used to go and watch the NSL.

But unfortunately Moffo, their day is well past, and they are as responsible for their own demise as anyone else.

The A-League was born many years ago in a Senate enquiry into Australian Soccer.

The report was quite scathing into how the sport was run at the time. Marconi had quite a say in how the game was run in those years....
 
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sooperdooper said:
sorry moffo your way off the mark...
Sutherland has the highest amount of players, followed by Nepean (penrith)
Marconi is no longer the producer of great young players...they are the roosters of Football in NSW
They buy them these days..

As they did in the past
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im sorry but marconi is not a region

f*ckwit
 
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fish eel said:
Yes, Marconi did and have produced some great players. In fact, some of those great Marconi sides would probably give an a-league side a run. As would they great melbourne knights side that had Viduka and Tiatto in it.

See, I'm not one to dismiss the contribution Marconi made. I used to go and watch the NSL.

But unfortunately Moffo, their day is well past, and they are as responsible for their own demise as anyone else.

The A-League was born many years ago in a Senate enquiry into Australian Soccer.

The report was quite scathing into how the sport was run at the time. Marconi had quite a say in how the game was run in those years....
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and thats the thing fish, there are so many fly by nights in here that have nfi what marconi contributed. sorry, ignorance is one thing that gets to me

anyways, you are right, marconi did have a fair say in things. but much of that was attributable to the person discussed further up. The NSL was a c**k up from day one and realistically wouldn't have survived without the strong clubs like marconi. there would've been no national soccer league if it wasn't for melb knights, marconi etc for all of those years
 
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Moffo said:
and thats the thing fish, there are so many fly by nights in here that have nfi what marconi contributed. sorry, ignorance is one thing that gets to me

anyways, you are right, marconi did have a fair say in things. but much of that was attributable to the person discussed further up. The NSL was a c**k up from day one and realistically wouldn't have survived without the strong clubs like marconi. there would've been no national soccer league if it wasn't for melb knights, marconi etc for all of those years
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But they problem is Moffo, that while Marconi once did contribute something, they became the very nub of what was wrong with the NSL and holding Australian football back.

They were poorly run and aiming at a narrow demographic. The game was never going to move forward until a national league with sides that could appeal to a range of people was established. We have that now with the A-League, and I'm sorry, but the disenfranchisment of a small group of fans like yourself is a price worth paying.
 
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fish eel said:
But they problem is Moffo, that while Marconi once did contribute something, they became the very nub of what was wrong with the NSL and holding Australian football back.

They were poorly run and aiming at a narrow demographic. The game was never going to move forward until a national league with sides that could appeal to a range of people was established. We have that now with the A-League, and I'm sorry, but the disenfranchisment of a small group of fans like yourself is a price worth paying.
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im sorry as well fish, because you're kidding yourself if you think that sydney fc has been embraced by the population. for a club that claims to represent all of sydney (4m+ people), to get 12-15k per game is pathetic

marconi only ever claimed to represent a small region of south west sydney and pulled 5-6k a game (at a guess)

Who drew a larger percentage of their target audience?

small group of fans my arse. you say it in such a way that you think sydney fc have 100,000s of fans. get a grip on reality
 
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Moffo said:
im sorry as well fish, because you're kidding yourself if you think that sydney fc has been embraced by the population. for a club that claims to represent all of sydney (4m+ people), to get 12-15k per game is pathetic

marconi only ever claimed to represent a small region of south west sydney and pulled 5-6k a game (at a guess)

Who drew a larger percentage of their target audience?

small group of fans my arse. you say it in such a way that you think sydney fc have 100,000s of fans. get a grip on reality
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Sydney FC are building Moffo.

They're a new entity and things take time. Despite what you said - their crowds have nudged slightly up year after year. They had their smallest crowd of the season tonight after the storm and it was still a tick over 10,000. Comparable to what the league side who play at the sfs draw

You would need to go back many, many years to a time when Marconi drew 5-6K.

And most of those games were virtual local derbies against sydney united
 
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fish eel said:
Sydney FC are building Moffo.

They're a new entity and things take time. Despite what you said - their crowds have nudged slightly up year after year. They had their smallest crowd of the season tonight after the storm and it was still a tick over 10,000. Comparable to what the league side who play at the sfs draw

You would need to go back many, many years to a time when Marconi drew 5-6K.

And most of those games were virtual local derbies against sydney united
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their crowds are stagnant, despite winning a title. i don't see how that qualifies as growing

History of Marconi Fairfield

by Andrew Howe

At a general meeting in 1956 proud Italian immigrant Oscar Michelini moved that the social club of which he was founding member of adopt the official name "Club Marconi of Bossley Park Social Recreation and Sporting Centre Limited". The name Marconi was in recognition of great Italian Guglielne Marconi, who invented wireless transmission. In the five years till 1962 a small tin shed meeting room where the Marconi club was baptised had developed into a significant faculty. The club now also owned the 22 acres of land surrounding the social club, situated in Bossley Park, in the Fairfield region of western Sydney.
Marconi's first soccer representation came about in 1959 in the form of a youth team. The first Marconi senior side came into being in 1961, where competing in the NSW amateur championship, the club won the NSW amateur league by eights points. Not to mention being victorious in the 1961 Amateur cup! Marconi quickly rose to prominence and in 1971 was accepted into the NSW state league, then considered the pinnacle of Australian club soccer. The coach at this time was Les Scheinflug (currently the Australian youth team coach).
From the onset of the national league in 1977 Marconi have regularly been considered pace- setters of the competition. In the first national league game ever played in Brisbane (on April 3, 1977), Marconi beat Brisbane City 1-0, in front of over 5,000 fans. Marconi came agonisingly close to securing the league's first league championship, only to be pipped at the post by Sydney City on goal difference. The Fairfielders could also not have got any closer to winning the inaugural national knock-out cup - losing out in the 1977 cup final to Brisbane Lions 5-3 on penalties, at Brisbane's Perry Park. At the end of the 1978 season supporters were wondering if any trophy was ever going to come their way - after 13 rounds of the league's second season Marconi were six points in front of their closest challengers and had not lost a game. By round 26 the team were placed fourth and had lost 8 games!
But the Marconi faithful did not have to wait much longer. In these days where the leading team at the end of the home and away season was declared champions, Marconi were national champions of 1979, making mathematically sure of the title after defeating arch rivals Sydney Olympic on September 16.
Marconi's real golden era started in the late 1980s. After Frank Farina was the national league's top scorer in both of his two seasons at Marconi (1987 and 1988), Marconi made three grand final appearances in a row. Grand final victories occurred in 1988 (v Sydney United on penalties) and 1989 (Olympic 1-0). In the 1993 grand final, Marconi edged out fellow national league ever-present Adelaide City 1-0.
Marconi holds the record for the number of national league wins (248 at the start of the 1996- 97 season) and the number of premierships (four). Such high standards alone ensures that the club will go close again this season.
Statistical summary of Marconi in the national league

National
league seasonFinal ladder
positionNational knock-
out cup placingAverage
home crowd1977 2nd (14 teams) 2nd (14 teams) 4100 1978 4th (14 teams) =17th (32 teams) 5900 1979 1st* (14 teams) =17th (32 teams) 5100 1980 4th (14 teams) 1st (32 teams) 5100 1981 14th (16 teams) =3rd (36 teams) 3900 1982 10th (16 teams) =5th (16 teams) 3600 1983 9th (16 teams) =3rd (16 teams) 3000 1984^ 3rd (12 teams) 19th (24 teams) 1900 1985^ 3rd (12 teams) =17th (32 teams) 2900 1986^ 4th (12 teams) =17th (32 teams) 2200 1987 4th (13 teams) =3rd (13 teams) 3000 1988* 4th* (14 teams) =9th (24 teams) 3000 1989* 1st* (14 teams) =5th (14 teams) 4400 1989-90 1st (14 teams) =9th (14 teams) 4800 1990-91 4th (14 teams) =5th (14 teams) 4600 1991-92 7th (14 teams) 2nd (14 teams) 3400 1992-93* 2nd* (14 teams) =5th (14 teams) 3400 1993-94 4th (14 teams) =5th (14 teams) 4100 1994-95 10th (13 teams) =9th (14 teams) 4300 1995-96 1st (12 teams) =5th (12 teams) 5000
 
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Moffo said:
their crowds are stagnant, despite winning a title. i don't see how that qualifies as growing

History of Marconi Fairfield

by Andrew Howe

At a general meeting in 1956 proud Italian immigrant Oscar Michelini moved that the social club of which he was founding member of adopt the official name "Club Marconi of Bossley Park Social Recreation and Sporting Centre Limited". The name Marconi was in recognition of great Italian Guglielne Marconi, who invented wireless transmission. In the five years till 1962 a small tin shed meeting room where the Marconi club was baptised had developed into a significant faculty. The club now also owned the 22 acres of land surrounding the social club, situated in Bossley Park, in the Fairfield region of western Sydney.
Marconi's first soccer representation came about in 1959 in the form of a youth team. The first Marconi senior side came into being in 1961, where competing in the NSW amateur championship, the club won the NSW amateur league by eights points. Not to mention being victorious in the 1961 Amateur cup! Marconi quickly rose to prominence and in 1971 was accepted into the NSW state league, then considered the pinnacle of Australian club soccer. The coach at this time was Les Scheinflug (currently the Australian youth team coach).
From the onset of the national league in 1977 Marconi have regularly been considered pace- setters of the competition. In the first national league game ever played in Brisbane (on April 3, 1977), Marconi beat Brisbane City 1-0, in front of over 5,000 fans. Marconi came agonisingly close to securing the league's first league championship, only to be pipped at the post by Sydney City on goal difference. The Fairfielders could also not have got any closer to winning the inaugural national knock-out cup - losing out in the 1977 cup final to Brisbane Lions 5-3 on penalties, at Brisbane's Perry Park. At the end of the 1978 season supporters were wondering if any trophy was ever going to come their way - after 13 rounds of the league's second season Marconi were six points in front of their closest challengers and had not lost a game. By round 26 the team were placed fourth and had lost 8 games!
But the Marconi faithful did not have to wait much longer. In these days where the leading team at the end of the home and away season was declared champions, Marconi were national champions of 1979, making mathematically sure of the title after defeating arch rivals Sydney Olympic on September 16.
Marconi's real golden era started in the late 1980s. After Frank Farina was the national league's top scorer in both of his two seasons at Marconi (1987 and 1988), Marconi made three grand final appearances in a row. Grand final victories occurred in 1988 (v Sydney United on penalties) and 1989 (Olympic 1-0). In the 1993 grand final, Marconi edged out fellow national league ever-present Adelaide City 1-0.
Marconi holds the record for the number of national league wins (248 at the start of the 1996- 97 season) and the number of premierships (four). Such high standards alone ensures that the club will go close again this season.
Statistical summary of Marconi in the national league

National
league seasonFinal ladder
positionNational knock-
out cup placingAverage
home crowd1977 2nd (14 teams) 2nd (14 teams) 4100 1978 4th (14 teams) =17th (32 teams) 5900 1979 1st* (14 teams) =17th (32 teams) 5100 1980 4th (14 teams) 1st (32 teams) 5100 1981 14th (16 teams) =3rd (36 teams) 3900 1982 10th (16 teams) =5th (16 teams) 3600 1983 9th (16 teams) =3rd (16 teams) 3000 1984^ 3rd (12 teams) 19th (24 teams) 1900 1985^ 3rd (12 teams) =17th (32 teams) 2900 1986^ 4th (12 teams) =17th (32 teams) 2200 1987 4th (13 teams) =3rd (13 teams) 3000 1988* 4th* (14 teams) =9th (24 teams) 3000 1989* 1st* (14 teams) =5th (14 teams) 4400 1989-90 1st (14 teams) =9th (14 teams) 4800 1990-91 4th (14 teams) =5th (14 teams) 4600 1991-92 7th (14 teams) 2nd (14 teams) 3400 1992-93* 2nd* (14 teams) =5th (14 teams) 3400 1993-94 4th (14 teams) =5th (14 teams) 4100 1994-95 10th (13 teams) =9th (14 teams) 4300 1995-96 1st (12 teams) =5th (12 teams) 5000
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No Moffo, not stagnat, up.

Also, each year, season tickets and memberships have increased.
 
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Saint Dragon said:
There's one thing. ONE!!! THING!!! That Marconi is better than...

Marconi > Moffo
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:lol::lol:

f**k of Moffo, locky knows more about Football than you. :lol:
 
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