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The Damo

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Divine wasn't linking Neo Nazis to Antifa. The article was talking about how there aren't any laws against Neo Nazi's putting up there posters.

In the comments section of the article one poster said that he saw the guy putting up the Neo Nazi posters and it was the same guy who he had seen putting up Antifa posters, implying that it was Antifa creating hysteria, which in turn could lead to new laws. Basically that it was a psy opp.

I will add that Neo Nazis were socialists and leftists.

I will also add that Antifa is very quick to label anyone who disagrees with them as Nazis. They were even calling African Americans who supported Trump as Nazi's. In Europe Antifa and the left will call anyone who is against open boarders Nazi's. Calling people Nazi's is a smear word, if they are not really Nazi's.
Oh dear, and when you talk about football you seem fairly sane...
I respectfully suggest you are not well served getting your news and politics from you tubers. You are being lied to. Just one thing that might lead you to question this stuff - go and find some accounts of hitlers and the nazis rise to power by people who were actually there. None of them thought they were socialists. The socialists and anarchists were one of the first targets of the nazis. If you’re genuinely interested I can recommend some books and sources.
Then you can ask if they are lying to you about that - what else are they lying about, and why?
 

ViceVersa

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Divine wasn't linking Neo Nazis to Antifa. The article was talking about how there aren't any laws against Neo Nazi's putting up there posters.

In the comments section of the article one poster said that he saw the guy putting up the Neo Nazi posters and it was the same guy who he had seen putting up Antifa posters, implying that it was Antifa creating hysteria, which in turn could lead to new laws. Basically that it was a psy opp.

I will add that Neo Nazis were socialists and leftists.

I will also add that Antifa is very quick to label anyone who disagrees with them as Nazis. They were even calling African Americans who supported Trump as Nazi's. In Europe Antifa and the left will call anyone who is against open boarders Nazi's. Calling people Nazi's is a smear word, if they are not really Nazi's.

Thanks for stating facts mate...

Truths of the 'Left' and the 'Right' ... A lot of people here have the wrong idea...

 

kit66

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Divine wasn't linking Neo Nazis to Antifa. The article was talking about how there aren't any laws against Neo Nazi's putting up there posters.

In the comments section of the article one poster said that he saw the guy putting up the Neo Nazi posters and it was the same guy who he had seen putting up Antifa posters, implying that it was Antifa creating hysteria, which in turn could lead to new laws. Basically that it was a psy opp.

I will add that Neo Nazis were socialists and leftists.

I will also add that Antifa is very quick to label anyone who disagrees with them as Nazis. They were even calling African Americans who supported Trump as Nazi's. In Europe Antifa and the left will call anyone who is against open boarders Nazi's. Calling people Nazi's is a smear word, if they are not really Nazi's.

Some Neo Nazis were socialists maybe but not "Leftists" and the Nazis were far right.

None of that changes what Devine or The DT are or that reading that sh*t isn't the best thing you could do. Reading the comments I imagine would be even worse given that the DT like the rest in that media stable ( talk back in particular ) have regular " fake " posters and callers to back up the stories and opinions.
 

The Damo

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Thanks for stating facts mate...

Truths of the 'Left' and the 'Right' ... A lot of people here have the wrong idea...

Oh dear, did someone turn over a rock? I’m almost tempted to watch that pile of flaming dog turds you posted, but I already know the crap it’s selling. Question - which side passed the civil rights act? Which side did the ‘southern democrats defect to? Have you heard the phras ‘southern strategy’ or ‘massive resistance’?
Read a book mate.
 

The Damo

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Some Neo Nazis were socialists maybe but not "Leftists" and the Nazis were far right.

None of that changes what Devine or The DT are or that reading that sh*t isn't the best thing you could do. Reading the comments I imagine would be even worse given that the DT like the rest in that media stable ( talk back in particular ) have regular " fake " posters and callers to back up the stories and opinions.
There are no nazis, neo or otherwise who are socialist. Not having a go at you kit, at all. but there’s no ground to be given here. They are mutually exclusive concepts.
 

saint.nick

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She's not a journalist, she's a propagandist, that's her job. She attacks anything to the Left of Far Right, Labour, The Greens, Feminists, Socialists, anything to do with Social Welfare, Gender Equality, Unionism,The ABC ( which is not particularly Left but her boss Murdoch is out to destroy it ), Climate Change, Renewable Energy Research, The Dalai Llama, basically anything Big Business and the Right don't like. In between she writes puff pieces on Trump, Abbott , Dutton, Coal, Oil etc.
Journalists write news, Devine rights " Opinion " and her opinion is whatever Murdoch's minions and the IPA tell her it is.
f**k, you know you're a commie when you say the ABC is 'not particularly left'
 

Frank Facer

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There are no nazis, neo or otherwise who are socialist. Not having a go at you kit, at all. but there’s no ground to be given here. They are mutually exclusive concepts.
Nazi party stands for Nationalist Socialist Workers Party.
 

kit66

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f**k, you know you're a commie when you say the ABC is 'not particularly left'

I'm not a commie, not even close and that's such a dumb remark anyway.

There's been half a dozen inquiries into Political Bias at the ABC over the last 20 years ( all instigated by the LNP ) and each one has found that there is NO significant bias to the Left or otherwise. Don't believe everything you hear mate. Just because the Murdoch Press and Talk Back goons constantly accuse the ABC of bias doesn't mean it's true, their agenda is the destruction of alternate voices and opinions and the truth. If you open your eyes and look around you'll see that Fox , Sky, their affiliates and like minded Media are doing the same all over the world, using their power and influence to dismantle Public Broadcasters like the BBC, ABC, CBC ( in Canada ), in Singapore and many European countries to silence the truth. You'll find that the Heads of these organizations are now mostly ex-Murdoch lackies handed the reins by Right wing Govts that were helped to power by the full support of Murdoch and Co, Michelle Guthrie at the ABC being a fine example.The Right cry bias at everything that doesn't support their own beliefs or god forbid questions them but it goes deeper than that. Can't control a well informed, well educated population.
 

saint.nick

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I'm not a commie, not even close and that's such a dumb remark anyway.

There's been half a dozen inquiries into Political Bias at the ABC over the last 20 years ( all instigated by the LNP ) and each one has found that there is NO significant bias to the Left or otherwise. Don't believe everything you hear mate. Just because the Murdoch Press and Talk Back goons constantly accuse the ABC of bias doesn't mean it's true, their agenda is the destruction of alternate voices and opinions and the truth. If you open your eyes and look around you'll see that Fox , Sky, their affiliates and like minded Media are doing the same all over the world, using their power and influence to dismantle Public Broadcasters like the BBC, ABC, CBC ( in Canada ), in Singapore and many European countries to silence the truth. You'll find that the Heads of these organizations are now mostly ex-Murdoch lackies handed the reins by Right wing Govts that were helped to power by the full support of Murdoch and Co, Michelle Guthrie at the ABC being a fine example.The Right cry bias at everything that doesn't support their own beliefs or god forbid questions them but it goes deeper than that. Can't control a well informed, well educated population.
You just assume that I gather all my thoughts on the ABC from the Murdoch press when in actual fact I have seen enough of the ABC myself to make my own conclusion that it is a predominately left-leaning organisation, with Triple J and Q/A being prime examples. Being politically inclined towards either side of the spectrum and being unfairly biased are two different things.

'Destruction of alternate voice and opinions and the truth'...what, and lefties aren't significantly guilty of this too? The left is eating itself with its own militant intolerance of right-wing thought. You make the whole right wing spectrum sound like devil's spawn deep-state conspirators.
 

kit66

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You just assume that I gather all my thoughts on the ABC from the Murdoch press when in actual fact I have seen enough of the ABC myself to make my own conclusion that it is a predominately left-leaning organisation, with Triple J and Q/A being prime examples. Being politically inclined towards either side of the spectrum and being unfairly biased are two different things.

'Destruction of alternate voice and opinions and the truth'...what, and lefties aren't significantly guilty of this too? The left is eating itself with its own militant intolerance of right-wing thought. You make the whole right wing spectrum sound like devil's spawn deep-state conspirators.

I'm not criticizing the Right Wing of politics I'm criticizing the Far Right Media like Fox who are doing their level best to start the next civil war in the US and causing a similar division here and each day becoming more powerful.
The political persuasion of a Democratic Government shouldn't matter, Left or Right as long as they aren't beholden to self interest and Lobby groups to an extent where they're implementing policy almost at the will of those groups. I also believe the best way forward is a strong and healthy bi-partisanship in Aussie politics but again the Media are making us more polarized than ever as a nation.

But anyway that's enough politics from me. I'm out. Back to the footy.
 
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