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Tino deal....is it worth it?

Chimp

Bench
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My opinion - 10 years is a big gamble, but it’s a gamble the Titans have to make, particularly with the Storm reportedly offering a similar ‘lifetime’ deal. Losing Tino would be catastrophic for the Titans, from an on-field performance/stats perspective, from a leadership perspective, from a PR perspective, a future recruitment perspective and from a culture perspective.
If they lose Tino, there’s no way they’re getting anywhere near a ‘like for like’ replacement - they’ve fallen incredibly lucky that a player like Tino has all the circumstances in place that make him want to be on the Gold Coast. If they lose Tino, they lose Fifita and any other half decent player already on their books, and will have an even harder job of recruiting talent. Players like Tino don’t generally want to play for clubs like the Gold Coast - but he does, and he wants them to win!
The money is big, but like Haas, he plays more minutes per game than 2 standard props, and at a higher standard than them. If I take my club for instance, given the choice of Tino at $1.2m or both Toby Rudolph and Royce Hunt for a combined $1.2m, I’d be taking Tino every single time. His output is better than theirs combined, and you then save on interchanges in-game, giving you more options elsewhere.
Yes they need a some better halves, but there isn’t really any on the market - so they’re best locking up both Tino and Fifita and playing the long game for a good halfback.
 

MKCS

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10 year contracts are just stupid, even DCE at Manly hasn't been what they make it out to be. The way the media talk its been a raging success.. not at all, there made the 8 three times in 9 years and never had back to back good seasons.

Think that's more down to Manly having been a three or four man team for the past decade to be honest. Can't do well in the comp anymore with three great players and a squad of average ones.
 

Penrose Warrior

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10 year contracts are just stupid, even DCE at Manly hasn't been what they make it out to be. The way the media talk its been a raging success.. not at all, there made the 8 three times in 9 years and never had back to back good seasons.
Yeah but there's 17 in a match-day side.

I'd argue the 10-year deal was a raging success - DCE is still a rep quality halfback at the back-end of that deal. They got to keep him for his entire career, and whilst I think initially he fell off the boil and maybe got complacent, that definitely isn't the case now.

Manly's issues lie elsewhere in the spine, the fact Turbo can't stay on the park, they've had an underperfoming pack and so on. Seems to be on the improve this year.
 
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Yeah but there's 17 in a match-day side.

I'd argue the 10-year deal was a raging success - DCE is still a rep quality halfback at the back-end of that deal. They got to keep him for his entire career, and whilst I think initially he fell off the boil and maybe got complacent, that definitely isn't the case now.

Manly's issues lie elsewhere in the spine, the fact Turbo can't stay on the park, they've had an underperfoming pack and so on. Seems to be on the improve this year.

End of the day though, Manly have achieved nothing in the duration of the contract so imo it can't be called a success. The previous 10 years prior where the players took unders to stay together they were constantly in the finals and achieved 2 premierships.
 
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Yeah but there's 17 in a match-day side.

I'd argue the 10-year deal was a raging success - DCE is still a rep quality halfback at the back-end of that deal. They got to keep him for his entire career, and whilst I think initially he fell off the boil and maybe got complacent, that definitely isn't the case now.

Manly's issues lie elsewhere in the spine, the fact Turbo can't stay on the park, they've had an underperfoming pack and so on. Seems to be on the improve this year.

Yes but considering the NRL don't allow back ended deals, one would presume that DCE's contract would be for a substantial $ per season, and possibly with ratchet clauses included. If so, this would mean they would have a lot of money tied up in a player who's 34 years old.

Clubs who sign such a key player on shorter term contracts, would get better salary cap flexibility, thus enabling them to be able to flesh out their squad with better caliber players as a result.
 

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