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getsmarty

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Canterbury Bulldogs stress club won't bust salary cap and claim Aaron Woods, Kieran Foran yet to sign


Bulldogs boss Raelene Castle has allayed concerns the club is spending beyond its means, assuring stakeholders it will comply with the salary cap despite uncertainty about the final figure for 2018.

Canterbury are poised to secure the services of Wests Tigers skipper Aaron Woods and New Zealand Warriors playmaker Kieran Foran, although neither have signed a contract as yet.

The addition of the marquee men to an already impressive roster has raised questions about how they can fit everyone in without busting the cap.

While Josh Reynolds, Michael Lichaa and Will Hopoate are off contract, their departures alone are unlikely to free up enough space to squeeze in the likely newcomers.


Several Bulldogs stars are on deals that are heavily back-ended for next year, including captain James Graham and back-rower Greg Eastwood.

Graham has been linked with rival clubs and Fairfax Media revealed Moses Mbye, despite re-signing until the end of 2020, is the latest player to be shopped to rival clubs.

Salary cap auditor Richard Gardham wrote to club chief executives during the week, warning them that the NRL wouldn't be registering contracts unless they are under the indicative salary cap figure of $9.14 million for next year.

Clubs believe the real figure is effectively about $8.7 million for a 30-man squad, raising concerns that most have overestimated for next season and can't comply. The players' union is expected to table a counter to the NRL's initial offer in coming weeks.


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Where to next?: Des Hasler says no deal has been done with Kieran Foran for next year. Photo: Getty Images

Castle provided assurances the club would be within the required spending limits.

"The current uncertainty around the salary cap for 2018 makes the current contracting process more challenging," Castle said.

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Deal or no deal?: Aaron Woods has yet to sign with the Bulldogs. Photo: Getty Images

"The salary cap is hugely important to the competition. The Bulldogs will always ensure that any decisions we are making in relation to recruitment will result in us being in a salary cap-compliant position."

Castle's comments came on the back of Bulldogs coach Des Hasler stressing Woods, who was pictured having coffee with Bulldogs players during the week before the two sides clash on Sunday, and Warriors' five-eighth Foran weren't signed, sealed and delivered.

"I think it's important we get the facts right rather than all the speculation," Hasler said. "No contracts have been signed. There is no agreement with those players. I'm sorry to say they haven't signed here and there's no contracts.

"There have been some discussions with their management. So far [those talks] have been fairly positive. There's no contracts signed [though]."

Hasler also joked the Bulldogs' main attraction for Woods and Foran would be "the colours of us, blue and white" and said speculating about other potential destinations for the Australian prop – such as Newcastle – was how "we create fake news".

But there will be some serious number crunching inside Bulldogs HQ when Woods and Foran pen deals and Hasler was in no mood to ponder how many players he would need to let go in the salary cap squeeze.

"That's an intuitive question," Hasler said. "At this point in time, I think it's counter-intuitive, counterproductive that line of thinking and that line of questioning because at the moment there is no agreement in place. Why go to that space?

"It's all speculation. It just goes round and round."

But Hasler was a little more forthcoming on the on-field threat posed by the Tigers, who have been beaten down and dragged through the gutter off the field in the first two months of the season.

Hasler reasoned the Tigers always trouble the Bulldogs, who have won nine of their past 11 clashes against the joint venture. But Hasler is still expecting "the unknown" on Sunday.

"I think Ivan [Cleary] is well aware [how big his job is], but [the Tigers] have a really experienced person and a very level-headed person and a very good person, which is what you need going forward," Hasler said.

"They are a very classy outfit. They've got some very classy players. Young [Luke] Brooks is back and they've really tested players throughout the year so it won't be easy."

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...kieran-foran-yet-to-sign-20170421-gvq5sq.html
 
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possm

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Development Clubs like the Dragons, Tigers, Panthers and of course Newcastle and the Broncos, should be compensated at the time one of their local juniors are registered with the NRL.

And what a joke. Tedesco reportedly offered 1.2m a year, has had his contract forwarded to the NRL for registration at 700k. This TPA stuff has to stop, I mean 500k p;/a is a joke.
 

possm

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So the reported 1.2m offer to Tedesco by the Roosters ends up being a 700k contract to be registered with the NRL and a TPA of 500k. How do the Roosters targeted players coincidently come across a TPA?
 

possm

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The Dogs have said they won't breach the salary cap.
They left off the words 'this time'.

How do they really expect to cut 1.9m from their cap?
 
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possm

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We have all now got a good look of what is going on with TPAs used by the richer clubs in the NRL.
The Roosters signed Tedesco for 200k less than an offer tabled by the Tigers. The trick is a 500k TPA to make up the reported 1.2m offer. All in the media and nothing done by the NRL.

Registered TPAs and the method used to gain them needs to be made public and this opportunity should be made available to all clubs. As I've said in the past, at present TPAs are undermining the salary cap and doing to the game exactly what the salary cap was brought in to stop.
 

BrissyRedV

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Kev Walters stuffed up on NRL 360 making it known he does not know the rules of the salary cap by suggesting as a coach he would be on the blower organising TPAs for Dugan to keep him. Kent obviously pulled him up on this and said that was illegal under the salary cap as they are supposed to be independent of the club. Not surprised Kev could be confused with this as his past history is of course with the Broncos and Storm.
 

possm

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Kev Walters stuffed up on NRL 360 making it known he does not know the rules of the salary cap by suggesting as a coach he would be on the blower organising TPAs for Dugan to keep him. Kent obviously pulled him up on this and said that was illegal under the salary cap as they are supposed to be independent of the club. Not surprised Kev could be confused with this as his past history is of course with the Broncos and Storm.
Kev was speaking from experience. You would have to be a fool to believe that sponsors come out of the woodwork to offer a TPA to a player who is currently at another club, at the time a certain club wants to sign them.

Of course there is a connection. There is a set up system so that clubs do not have to be involved after the setup. From the time of the setup on, the club just has to make it known through the media that they are going to sign a certain player. The entity that was setup then contacts the player's manager or the manager contacts the entity and a deal is done and registered with the NRL.

So having said this, the simple answer is for someone to setup a TPA system for the Dragons. Who to do it or how it will be done? Just follow the system used by the Roosters, Broncos, Dogs etc.
 

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