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Webb tackle Grade 5

Shifty

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Are you suggesting that Swain broke his own jaw Pepstar?

I believe if Webb didn't hit Swain on the jaw with sufficient force to fracture it, he wouldn't be facing the judiciary for a grade 5 tackle.
 

Iafeta

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Roosterphin, what is up starting a thread defending a tackle that knocks out three teeth and gives a bloke a hairline fracture?

What do you think he got that from too many hot dogs prior to the game? Get a grip son, really.

Good hit pepstar? When was a good hit around the head? It was a bad hit. And thats putting it politely.

By the way - isn't it ironic you guys are starting this sort of BS thread when the player has pleaded guilty? Guilty generally means you've done the crime and are ready to do the time. Maybe realisation should set in with other sectors of the community in regards to that tackle. It was a shocker.
 

Iafeta

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By the way Roosterphin, its not the worst grading out. There is the next level up, reckless, which Monty Betham was charged with this season I believe, and then above that a straight referral to the judiciary. To say its the worst grading of a head high tackle is purely misguided.
 
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there was nothing in it and to be charged with a grade 5 - is stupid - adding the grade of tackle up nowdays.

people can lose teeth and fracture their jaw without being struck in this area - people have broken/loosened their teeth eating and have fractured/broken their jaw yawning.

the roosters should have had a doctor there to explain this to the panel as the above could well have happened to the player before the game as it is possible and since this has been proven and is common knowledge then there is doubt that the tackle by webb solely caused the injury as it may have only contributed to an already existing condition.

there is reasonable doubt and thus should have been found not guilty.
 

Shifty

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The fact remains that the tackle on Swain, at least the one you're referring to, had the potential to result in a fractured jaw. It wouldn't matter if the injury wasn't caused by the tackle, it wouldn't matter if he wasn't injured at all. The fact that the injury was sustained proves that you are in serious denial.

As for adding up the charges, if they had been looked at seperately there's a good chance he would have received a longer suspension. The fact that he made more than one tackle that were considered worthy of action and others that were high, proves that he has a problem with his techinique. Denial by the Roosters hasn't helped Morley or Crocker and it won't help Webb or Hodges.

Quit while you're behind.
 

Iafeta

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Generalissimo Stalin said:
there was nothing in it and to be charged with a grade 5 - is stupid - adding the grade of tackle up nowdays.

people can lose teeth and fracture their jaw without being struck in this area - people have broken/loosened their teeth eating and have fractured/broken their jaw yawning.

the roosters should have had a doctor there to explain this to the panel as the above could well have happened to the player before the game as it is possible and since this has been proven and is common knowledge then there is doubt that the tackle by webb solely caused the injury as it may have only contributed to an already existing condition.

there is reasonable doubt and thus should have been found not guilty.

Reasonable doubt? Who are you? Eugene off the Practise? Starsky and Hutch? Mr Zed??

Give yourself a quadruple.

Reasonable doubt in murder=Possibly did not do it. Reasonable doubt in head high tackle? Goose, it was on video - BOOM, whack, teeth fly everywhere. What else do we need??? You are kidding yourself. By the way, he wasn't FOUND guilty, he PLEADED guilty. That shows how valid your quabbling is - the player HIMSELF agreed it was a grade 5. He did not even dispute the grading which several players have done and succeeded at in the past.

It doesn't matter that the player lost his teeth - thats just an illustration of where the tackle hit and the force. Well, it does matter because that is just a shocking tackle, but regardless. The point is, the tackle was bad enough that could have caused him to lose teeth. It has to be pretty bad to get to that stage. Thats the sticking point. The tackle had the capability of severely injuring someone. There's no grey area in this. It was a poor tackle that severely injured someone, or more to the point, had the capability of severely injuring someone.

Mr Zed, another common quote to go with your "reasonable doubt", "You do the crime, you do the time." Deal with it!!
 

Aries

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Iafeta said:
By the way Roosterphin, its not the worst grading out. There is the next level up, reckless, which Monty Betham was charged with this season I believe, and then above that a straight referral to the judiciary. To say its the worst grading of a head high tackle is purely misguided.

There is a grade 11 apparently... thats what Bird got, and he didn't even smudge Marteene's makeup!!
 
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