WIN Stadium roof buckling under high winds, could collapse

[Timmah]

Serc - I believe it was installed in May.

 

[natheel]

My old man was asked to do the quantity surveying for the new grandstand. But when he saw the plans he knocked it back reckons it was a shit design destined to f**k up...

 

[muzby]

Serc - I believe it was installed in May.

nah was either late july or even august that it went on..

i was there in early july and all it had was the beams - no roof..

 

[muzby]

we had a stuff up of similar magnitude down here in melbourne..

they built a 120m high observation wheel a few years back, costing $100 million <insert doctor evil pose here>

less than 3 months of operation they pulled the whole thing down becuase the steel cracked & buckled..

are we becoming too ambitious in our designs, or should we stop awarding contracts to the lowest bidder

?

 

[Mr Angry]

so is it still up? Can they repair or do they have to start again.?

Quite the f**k up, bad all round.

 

[Willow]

That's the stupid government's fault for giving the team money to renovate BOTH of their stadiums.

Wasn't it built by a company who sponsors the club?

No, and no.

WIN Stadium is a council ground. It is managed by the Wollongong Showground Trust. The NSW Government funded the development.

WIN TV have been sponsor of the ground (naming rights) since the 1990s. They don't own the ground anymore than Suncorp own Lang Park.

Historically, it is known as the Wollongong Showground.

 

[Willow]

so is it still up? Can they repair or do they have to start again.?

Quite the f**k up, bad all round.

Apparently is has held up overnight. The Entertainment Centre is open as normal today. A crane has arrived to begin the repair work. Reportedly unlikely to collapse.

http://www.illawarramercury.com.au/...-roof-holds-on-through-the-night/2298480.aspx

 

[Twizzle]

we had a stuff up of similar magnitude down here in melbourne..

they built a 120m high observation wheel a few years back, costing $100 million <insert doctor evil pose here>

less than 3 months of operation they pulled the whole thing down becuase the steel cracked & buckled..

are we becoming too ambitious in our designs, or should we stop awarding contracts to the lowest bidder

?

with proper design you can build anything, its not as though structural engineering is something new and a structural design for something as simple as a grandstand is pretty much a no brainer

unfortunately our system allows the construction to be awarded to the lowest tenderer and in the case of a grandstand, the cost of the steel would have a big impact on the final cost, therefore quality steel like that of Blue Scope Steel (formerly BHP) probably never got a look in

my guess is that the steel would have come from Asia and therein lies the problem, just my opinion of course but being experienced in the govt tendering system I'd be willing to bet parts of my anatomy on the cause

 

[carcharias]

I am no builder...but looking at the pics of it online I am not suprised this has happened.
Proximity to the open ocean and the design seems a bit hopeful.
What ever happened to bricks and mortar..and walls?

this looks like a big tin hang glider.

 

[Mr Angry]

Apparently is has held up overnight. The Entertainment Centre is open as normal today. A crane has arrived to begin the repair work. Reportedly unlikely to collapse.

http://www.illawarramercury.com.au/...-roof-holds-on-through-the-night/2298480.aspx

Good I hope it is ready for the start of 2012.

In the end the Engineering company will take a loss not a profit. It is 2011 right. ffs I am embarrassed as an aussie this can happen anywhere here.

 

[Joker's Wild]

Serc - I believe it was installed in May.

The roof didnt go on until well after the Manly home game there in late June

 

[Goddo]

:lol:

Steeling my thunder AG...........


Yep, chinese steel. The mining industry and all the construction going into hat industry is full of it. Not saying that it's worse quality, but it does show the attitude of the mining industry to local investment.

Building new stadiums is a disaster for clubs. At least our demolition was cheap, but it took 4 seasons to build, and we had to play at Centerbury's ground before we come home - and won one comp.

Not to mention what happened to poor old Norths.

Without the bullsh*t, someopne tell me that this won't really jeapoardise Saints future.

Alarmist old fool

 

[Loudstrat]

F*ck off you old twat. Major stadium construction problems led to Norths demise - sorry for hoping your club wasnt going to suffer the same fate you genius. :roll:

 

[Ronnie Dobbs]

F*ck off you old twat. Major stadium construction problems led to Norths demise - sorry for hoping your club wasnt going to suffer the same fate you genius. :roll:

Completely different circumstances. Norths demise came about because they needed Graham Park to meet the "criteria". Saints can just play 12 games at Kogarah next year and don't have the cash problems Norths had.

 

[docbrown]

Pretty much.
I'd hate to be structural engineer that put his signature on that one, all I can say is I hope he has indemnity insurance and/ or a shitload of documentation attesting to the MPa and UTS of that steel that negates the blame.
Incidents like this illustrate why you have insurance.

Isn't the roof still under partial construction?

Looks to me like the wind has uplifted the roof in the middle before the cross brace connection were in place.

 

[docbrown]

Re Chinese steel - it's usually Australian ore shipped to China, processed and sent back - because we killed our production industry.

 

[Parra]

Building something in Wollongong with imported steel and then watching it fail.

Sign of the times.

 

[Joker's Wild]

Re Chinese steel - it's usually Australian ore shipped to China, processed and sent back - because we killed our production industry.

The GFC and subsequently the skyrocketing Aussie $ did that

 

[docbrown]

The GFC and subsequently the skyrocketing Aussie $ did that

We've been killing our industry since the 70's.

We dig the shit up.
Send it overseas for pennies.
They process it.
Then send it back to us for dollars.

Australia is the lucky country only because of our mineral wealth. We seem incapable of fully capitalising on it.

 

[Cletus]

The GFC and subsequently the skyrocketing Aussie $ did that

Not to mention that we don't pay our steel workers $50 a week.