World cup hype in Australia

[Mong]

Yeah Danish is right. I remember those socceroos ads featuring african wildlife playing a game with socceroos players at night time, in the lead-up to and during the WC. Can't believe that was 4 years ago already.

Danish is rarely ever right, this is not one of those rare times either.

 

[Game_Breaker]

We should have. Damn diving poofs!

More of a stupid tackle by Neill

 

[saint.nick]

It was a stupid tackle and a dive. They're both villains.

 

[Danish]

The obvious difference between qualifying and the finals aside, you didn't actually say the vast vast amount of support for the socceroos at the World Cup, you specifically said the code.

You don't think the majority of people who watch the socceroos games in this and the last 2 world cups would completely dwarf the amount of people who watch A League, or any other league for that matter?

Come on mate get serious. Soccer almost as bad as union in its bandwagon support for the national side over the local comp.

 

[Danish]

Talking out of your arse again. The last 3 qualifying games had a combined audience of 5m. Pretty sure the previous 11 would have more than 2m.

This is the same situation for every country. More interest in the finals than the qualifiers.

You mean the last couple qualifiers, held in australia, in prime time, and on FTA plus pay TV Yep, odds are they got a hell of a lot better ratings than the earlier nuff nuff games held during the first few rounds of qualifying.

Sure they'd beat the 11 million watching a single World Cup game, but that doesn't exactly diminish the point that the majority of fans watching World Cup games wouldn't watch any of the euro leagues let alone the A League in between world cups. They jump on the bandwagon, like Wallaby fans or the 3 game per year origin fans

 

[Big Sam]

An estimated 7 million Australians watched the socceroos round of 16 game against Italy.

Sure they'd beat the 11 million watching a single World Cup game

7m? 11m? Make up your mind.

They jump on the bandwagon, like Wallaby fans or the 3 game per year origin fans

Pick any country out of the remaining 30 where interest in the qualifiers is greater than the finals itself.

Seriously, stick to your Souths obsession because you haven't got a clue about football.

 

[Mong]

You don't think the majority of people who watch the socceroos games in this and the last 2 world cups would completely dwarf the amount of people who watch A League, or any other league for that matter?

Come on mate get serious. Soccer almost as bad as union in its bandwagon support for the national side over the local comp.

Again, you specifically said the code, not the socceroos.

Sure more people probably watch the socceroos than a league. More probably watch the EPL than a league presently.

At no point does this mean that the vast, vast majority of support the code gets is bandwagon.

 

[Danish]

Again, you specifically said the code, not the socceroos.

Sure more people probably watch the socceroos than a league. More probably watch the EPL than a league presently.

At no point does this mean that the vast, vast majority of support the code gets is bandwagon.

When the average socceroos world cup game rates 20 times higher than your average A League or PL game in Oz, then yes I think its safe to say that the majority of the support for soccer in Australia is bandwagon. If you never watch club games and only watch the national side during a world cup, then you are a bandwagoner.

Its even worse for union at times, where you might see 30 times the audience for a Wallabies match compared to a super rugby one depending on the game.

AFL and NRL have less bandwagon given their club games can rate pretty well compared to their biggest games of the year (GF, origins).

 

[Mong]

Ever stopped to consider that folk who watch the socceroos are folk who likely support various different clubs in various different leagues around the world and don't necessarily watch all the clubs in all the leagues, who come together to watch the one national team?

Is this being "discussed" in TFC by any chance? You are running a poor TFC like argument here Danish.

 

[saint.nick]

Cricket is by far the worst though. Do not know a single person who is remotely interested in sheffield shield.

 

[Danish]

Cricket is by far the worst though. Do not know a single person who is remotely interested in sheffield shield.

Definitely right there. State cricket compared to national cricket would be an immense difference. You could argue that the Big Bash gets pretty awesome ratings though, mind you that entire tournament is one big band wagon given it only runs a few weeks and doesn't appear to take itself too seriously. Its like a 7s or 9s tournament.

 

[Mong]

Why does being a Test Cricket fan make a person a bandwagon supporter of the code??

That argument simply makes no sense.

 

[Danish]

Ever stopped to consider that folk who watch the socceroos are folk who likely support various different clubs in various different leagues around the world and don't necessarily watch all the clubs in all the leagues, who come together to watch the one national team?

Is this being "discussed" in TFC by any chance? You are running a poor TFC like argument here Danish.

So your argument that soccer fans, unlike all other sports, exclusively only watch games from their league of choice, featuring the team that they support? A West Ham fan for example will never watch any Premier League on fox except for their own games? Is that your argument?

I'd argue that any fan of a team in the PL would certainly watch more games than just their own side's, especially big matches like the Liverpool vs Chelsea game that essentially decides the title. 180,000 tuned into that game.

I don't know why you are getting so offended at the notion that there is a lot of bandwagon support for the socceroos, and soccer in general in Australia. Its quite blatant (look at the sudden increase in Man City fans of late that all swear they've gone for them forever :lol. Its not like its limited to this sport.

 

[Mong]

So your argument that soccer fans, unlike all other sports, exclusively only watch games from their league of choice, featuring the team that they support? A West Ham fan for example will never watch any Premier League on fox except for their own games? Is that your argument?

I'd argue that any fan of a team in the PL would certainly watch more games than just their own side's, especially big matches like the Liverpool vs Chelsea game that essentially decides the title. 180,000 tuned into that game.

I don't know why you are getting so offended at the notion that there is a lot of bandwagon support for the socceroos, and soccer in general in Australia. Its quite blatant (look at the sudden increase in Man City fans of late that all swear they've gone for them forever :lol. Its not like its limited to this sport.

I didn't say they never do, or wouldn't do, Danish. You missed the point by a long long way again. Probably on purpose.

So now it's "a lot" of bandwagon support for the socceroos. Initially it was the "vast, vast majority" of support for the code.

If you are admitting that your initial claim was vastly, vastly wide of the mark and incorrect and are now arguing that the Socceroo's enjoy a level of bandwagon support, then yes, I agree.

Trying to prove the level by the comparisons you are making are unnecessary and are vastly, vastly wide of being anywhere close to valid.

 

[Big Sam]

When the average socceroos world cup game rates 20 times higher than your average A League or PL game in Oz, then yes I think its safe to say that the majority of the support for soccer in Australia is bandwagon.

More generalisations. When comparing averages, it's no worse than 10 times higher.

It's interesting to note that the average PL game draws in 2.5-4m viewers in the UK whilst the last Three Lions' WC qualifier drew in 11m.

So is England a bandwagon country too Danish?

 

[Danish]

More generalisations. When comparing averages, it's no worse than 10 times higher.

It's interesting to note that the average PL game draws in 2.5-4m viewers in the UK whilst the last Three Lions' WC qualifier drew in 11m.

So is England a bandwagon country too Danish?

Not really, given the PL often has 4-5 games running simultaneously. That 2.5 million average per game works out to 10-12 million total viewers tuning in at the same time to watch the PL.

Seems pretty in line with the world cup ratings.

It appears I've struck a nerve by declaring soccer support in Australia to be largely bandwagon. I'm really not sure why, its a great achievement by FFA to create such a strong viewership for the national side despite relatively small support for the major soccer leagues in Oz.

 

[big hit!]

We should have. Damn diving poofs!

it was a stupid challenge by Neill and all the chances and threats were being made by the Italians.


That game could've gone on for another hour Aussies would still not have scored a goal, or looked like scoring one.

but yeah, everyone in the mainstream is talking down the chances of the Roos for this one, considering the group.

Chile play a defensive high line.....can be exposed if played well.

The Dutch are in a re-build too and are missing key personnel in midfield. Experimenting with a non-dutch system in the 5-3-2. Roos can be competitive, sneak a draw.

Against Spain, the hope is that they've already played Chile & the Dutch and beaten them comprehensively. They may play a 2nd string team allowing for draw perhaps.

Best outcome for all games.

 

[Mong]

Not really, given the PL often has 4-5 games running simultaneously. That 2.5 million average per game works out to 10-12 million total viewers tuning in at the same time to watch the PL.

Seems pretty in line with the world cup ratings.

It appears I've struck a nerve by declaring soccer support in Australia to be largely bandwagon. I'm really not sure why, its a great achievement by FFA to create such a strong viewership for the national side despite relatively small support for the major soccer leagues in Oz.

It's not hitting a nerve Danish, you are simply wrong as demonstrated by your changing srgument and inability to provide a relevant comparison to try and prove your point.

I mean, comparing one premier league game that the minority of fans in the country would have a really close interest in and the national team which the majority obviously do, is never going to support your argument that the vast, vast amount of football fans are bandwagon fans.

 

[saint.nick]

Why does being a Test Cricket fan make a person a bandwagon supporter of the code??

That argument simply makes no sense.

Well Sheffield shield isn't test cricket but it's still exactly the same game

 

[Bulldog Force]

Game 1: Brazil got dis 3-0.