Rumoured/Confirmed Signings and More Crap XVIII

[spiderdan]

and please. everyone of those guys you named would be significantly faster than hayne.

 

[hindy111]

Does anyone feel he has done the dirty on the club? If he informed them last night I cant help but think its below par.He had a contract and he is walking out.Leaving us with know real options with most the good players signed up and guys we let go we may of kept.
Sure you only get one life and but I think the nrl and the fans also helped him to get where he is and part of me feels he owed it too us too atleast give us some notice.Sometimes you do things to make others happy.Today Hayne has broke the hearts of 200,000 fans who made him who he is today.Without us fans Hayne where would you be? The fans who work 9-5.And pay there money too watch you play.
Life might be about opportunities but don't forget your roots. We deserved better than that absolute bull$hit. I am left feeling a little bitter.Good luck Jarryd on chasing your fairytale.Thanks for the glim of light you gave us thru the dark times but I cant feel a little bit hurt that you haven't given the club a bit more time to prepare.Effectively ruining our 2015 season before it has started.And surely you must of knew the impact this was going to have on our club and future. If you have been thinking about it for the last few years than you should of let the club know so we could of prepared better.

Thanks for the memories

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

for now I'll stick with my opinion he is too slow and can't jump high enough for wr, and to light (by around 10-15kg which is tough to put on that amount of quality weight quickly) to be a rb.

How do you figure that he's too light to be a RB? If he put on 10-15kgs he'd be bigger than just about any tailback in the NFL. He's already bigger than


i don't think he'll be a running back, but size aint the problem. He's already bigger than your beloved Adrian Peterson (98kg, 6 ft 1)

 

[spiderdan]

How do you figure that he's too light to be a RB? If he put on 10-15kgs he'd be bigger than just about any tailback in the NFL. He's already bigger than


i don't think he'll be a running back, but size aint the problem. He's already bigger than your beloved Adrian Peterson (98kg, 6 ft 1)

beloved Adrian Peterson?

I base it on players like Thurman Thomas and emmitt smith who were around 5'8 5'9 and weighed around 105.

we'll see how he goes. if I'm wrong I'll be happy to admit it

 

[Tony Bongo]

Does anyone feel he has done the dirty on the club? If he informed them last night I cant help but think its below par.He had a contract and he is walking out.Leaving us with know real options with most the good players signed up and guys we let go we may of kept.
Sure you only get one life and but I think the nrl and the fans also helped him to get where he is and part of me feels he owed it too us too atleast give us some notice.Sometimes you do things to make others happy.Today Hayne has broke the hearts of 200,000 fans who made him who he is today.Without us fans Hayne where would you be? The fans who work 9-5.And pay there money too watch you play.
Life might be about opportunities but don't forget your roots. We deserved better than that absolute bull$hit. I am left feeling a little bitter.Good luck Jarryd on chasing your fairytale.Thanks for the glim of light you gave us thru the dark times but I cant feel a little bit hurt that you haven't given the club a bit more time to prepare.Effectively ruining our 2015 season before it has started.And surely you must of knew the impact this was going to have on our club and future. If you have been thinking about it for the last few years than you should of let the club know so we could of prepared better.

Thanks for the memories

Here here

 

[Eelementary]

well I guess we'll see when his numbers come out. he dominates here athletically here because he is against guys that aren't that athletic. the 11.15 sec he ran for the 100m a couple of years ago is hardly impressive. by comparison you'll find a heap of sub 10.5 100m guys coming out of college (with even better speed over 40m). you also have guys like Marcellus Wiley who was a heavy defensive end that have a vertical leap of just under 40 inches, I seriously doubt hayne would come close to that. in australia there's this thing with pumping up domestic athletes as being better than they really are when the reality is they aren't that special. it's all just discussion talk right now whether hayne will make it and we won't really know for the next 6-12 months.

for now I'll stick with my opinion he is too slow and can't jump high enough for wr, and to light (by around 10-15kg which is tough to put on that amount of quality weight quickly) to be a rb.

Usain is listed at 94kg, and Hayne at 100kg. He was two seconds slower than World Record pace, despite not being a sprinter.

And these so-called monsters that can out-sprint Superman's diarrhoea have been training for years to do what they do. I would not find it out of the realm of possibility that Hayne could match them with - or surpass them - with proper training.

You say that we as Australians over-estimate the quality of our athletes, but I put it to you that Americans/NFL fans (of which I am one) have a tendency to over-estimate the quality of their athletes.

In my mind, the single greatest athlete I have ever seen is Brock Lesnar. Have a look trough his UFC and WWE highlights, as well as his NCAA highlights, and you'll see why.

But as good as Brock Lesnar is, he failed at the NFL, because his background was pro and amateur wrestling.

But hayne's background was sprinting and then making the transition to contact rugby league.

I think he'll do fine.

 

[Parraren]

Scott said on MMM tonight that we have roughly 20% of our cap freed up and we might not necessarily look to sign a fullback to replace Jarryd, possibly looking at a 'gun' centre instead. Mentioned Hoppa as a FB option.

They also prodded him about Watmough/Stewart rumours but he just said if they were available we'd be interested in talking.....

Also said they are planning around Hayne potentially returning next year around August if he doesn't make it over there.

You can listen to the interview on MMM Sydney website via podcast, the rush hour.

 

[Parraren]

Double

 

[T.S Quint]

If Hayne returns next August then that would probably mean every team he trials with, every coach and trainer he works with, every agent has told him he's got no chance. It's not a big timeframe.

 

[T.S Quint]

I'd be stoked if he does though.
I'll look forward to every other team's fans crying foul because Dave Smith says we can re-sign Hayne for peanuts after we get Israel Folau for 2015.

 

[Eelementary]

The altruistic part in me wishes him well, but the selfish Eels fan in me wants him to fail and come back and wear our colours again.

 

[El Diablo]

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...091804481?nk=26be3c9ae6e562035a7a26189afdfde9

The Eels have revealed Israel Folau joins a hit list of potential recruits as a replacement for Jarryd Hayne

NICK WALSHAW
The Daily Telegraph
October 16, 2014 12:00AM

PARRAMATTA are set to make a second play at Wallabies superstar Israel Folau — with the club suddenly boasting a marquee ‘slush fund’ of well over $1 million.

With Eels superstar Jarryd Hayne sensationally quitting the game, club CEO Scott Seward has revealed Folau joins a hit list of potential recruits including Manly’s Kieran Foran, Brisbane livewire Ben Barba and fellow Bronco Josh Hoffman.

Asked about Folau, who knocked back the Eels two years ago following salary cap dramas, Seward said: “Anybody who says they don’t want Izzy is lying to you.

“We’ll look at every opportunity out there and if he wants to come back to rugby league, we’ll certainly be a club that wants to have a chat with him.

“From a player perspective, we can definitely attack a little more than we could before. We have to attack.

“We have to find a replacement for the best player in the game and we will. Obviously you can’t replace Jarryd — I don’t think we should try — but we do want a side that can get out there and win the competition.”

While Folau and Foran are not off contract until the end of next season, it is understood the Broncos would be willing to release either Barba or Hoffman for 2015. One player the Eels won’t be going for, however, is controversial Wallabies playmaker Kurtley Beale.

“I don’t think Kurtley would be at the Eels,’’ Seward said. “I have never met Kurtley and don’t know a lot about him, but I’m not sure he would be the right fit for what we’re trying to build at this footy club.

“But the net will certainly be cast far and wide. There might be someone coming off contract in 2016 who is unhappy where they are, there might be a club which has surplus requirements.

“This isn’t about one position. While we have lost a fullback in Jarryd we’re not necessarily going to go like-for-like.”

Elsewhere, it is understood the Eels have almost certainly locked down a deal with NSW Origin forward Anthony Watmough, whose troubles at Manly have been well documented.

While Hayne is not expecting to return to the NRL, he has signed an agreement that would return him to Parramatta should his NFL experiment fail. Asked how the Eels would fit, say, a new marquee like Folau and Hayne should he return, Seward added: “It’s going to be a juggling act and it’s going to be something we look at.

“We’re going to have to work with the NRL as well. The most important thing for us and the game is if Jarryd Hayne wants to come back to the NRL, he will come back and we will open the door for him and make it work. I hope he is successful over there for him as a person and an athlete. Again, that is where it doesn’t have to be a fullback for fullback swap.”

 

[Parraren]

Interesting times ahead

 

[Obscene Assassin]

wait so if we sign Folau on $1 million doesn't that mean we'd be in the same situation cap wise but with a lesser quality player?

 

[T.S Quint]

Ben Barba?
Josh Hoffman?

These are our options?

FMD.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Are they any worse than grand finalist Sam Perrett?

 

[T.S Quint]

No.

But Perrett had the Origin-winning halves on his side. :sarcasm:

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Does anyone feel he has done the dirty on the club? If he informed them last night I cant help but think its below par.He had a contract and he is walking out.Leaving us with know real options with most the good players signed up and guys we let go we may of kept.
Sure you only get one life and but I think the nrl and the fans also helped him to get where he is and part of me feels he owed it too us too atleast give us some notice.Sometimes you do things to make others happy.Today Hayne has broke the hearts of 200,000 fans who made him who he is today.Without us fans Hayne where would you be? The fans who work 9-5.And pay there money too watch you play.
Life might be about opportunities but don't forget your roots. We deserved better than that absolute bull$hit. I am left feeling a little bitter.Good luck Jarryd on chasing your fairytale.Thanks for the glim of light you gave us thru the dark times but I cant feel a little bit hurt that you haven't given the club a bit more time to prepare.Effectively ruining our 2015 season before it has started.And surely you must of knew the impact this was going to have on our club and future. If you have been thinking about it for the last few years than you should of let the club know so we could of prepared better.

Thanks for the memories

I don't think Hayne's decision came out of the blue. I even suspect that he may have had a clause in his contract allowing him to leave for NFL. The speed of the supposed acquiescence of our club suggests prior knowledge, at the least.

Usain is listed at 94kg, and Hayne at 100kg. He was two seconds slower than World Record pace, despite not being a sprinter.

And these so-called monsters that can out-sprint Superman's diarrhoea have been training for years to do what they do. I would not find it out of the realm of possibility that Hayne could match them with - or surpass them - with proper training.

You say that we as Australians over-estimate the quality of our athletes, but I put it to you that Americans/NFL fans (of which I am one) have a tendency to over-estimate the quality of their athletes.

Not to pick on you, but I keep seeing Hayne being listed at 100kg. He said himself this year that he was playing at 105kg. And I agree about some people here tending to underestimate the quality of our athletes. Hayne would be in the top 1% of our athletes, which probably - all things being equal - puts him safely in the top 10% of US athletes. Close enough, anyway.

Scott said on MMM tonight that we have roughly 20% of our cap freed up and we might not necessarily look to sign a fullback to replace Jarryd, possibly looking at a 'gun' centre instead. Mentioned Hoppa as a FB option.

They also prodded him about Watmough/Stewart rumours but he just said if they were available we'd be interested in talking.....

Also said they are planning around Hayne potentially returning next year around August if he doesn't make it over there.

You can listen to the interview on MMM Sydney website via podcast, the rush hour.

This is one thing that bothers me. How much cap are we supposed to keep free?

I'd be stoked if he does though.
I'll look forward to every other team's fans crying foul because Dave Smith says we can re-sign Hayne for peanuts after we get Israel Folau for 2015.

Now that would be funny.

The altruistic part in me wishes him well, but the selfish Eels fan in me wants him to fail and come back and wear our colours again.

I hear that and agree on both counts.

wait so if we sign Folau on $1 million doesn't that mean we'd be in the same situation cap wise but with a lesser quality player?

Sadly, IMO, yes.

 

[IFR33K]

I believe krisnan inu is a free agent by the time the 2015 season kicks off. I say we pursue him as a stop gap for our backs. Wouldn't command big dollars either.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

beloved Adrian Peterson?

I base it on players like Thurman Thomas and emmitt smith who were around 5'8 5'9 and weighed around 105.
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Sorry, thought I was replying to Ron!

PS. Emmitt played at 95kg (210lb), and Thomas at 93kg-95kg.