Danny wicks

[MacDougall]

I think that MacDougall is trying to look cool or something, I'm not really sure though as it seems a strange thing to pursue on an Internet forum (especially this one!).

Hmm no, I just think that a bunch of you need to get out more if you think ecstacy is something worth vilifying someone for. Kills less people than people who eat and drive. Kills less people than crossing the street at a pedestrian crossing. Capturing the feeling you get from it is worth it. It feels good man! Really good. Wish I had some now. Munch munch munch.

Taking one to know one comes to mind

Oh man you've rustled the shit out of my jimmies just now. How dare you.

 

[Canard]

Well I think you've taken my original post too literally. No one is saying that drugs are completely safe and don't have a risk of harm -------------------------------------------

This and your other post are completed unrelated whatsoever to Australia, you couldn't be more off base in your understanding of how Eccies and other drugs are manufactured here. (Granted your clearly a Pom)

In Australia these drugs are manufactured by bikies in suburban homes with pill presses operated by people like Carl Williams and his family.

The manufacture pure garbage and push it on people at exorbitant prices.

 

[ACTPanthers]

Anyone advocating illegal drug use obviously has never witnessed someone close to them die as a result - If you had, you would definitely be singing a different tune.

 

[The Elephant In The room]

This and your other post are completed unrelated whatsoever to Australia, you couldn't be more off base in your understanding of how Eccies and other drugs are manufactured here. (Granted your clearly a Pom)

In Australia these drugs are manufactured by bikies in suburban homes with pill presses operated by people like Carl Williams and his family.

The manufacture pure garbage and push it on people at exorbitant prices.

But drugs are great and I'm cool because I take drugs. :sarcasm:

 

[Masoe_eats_babies]

This and your other post are completed unrelated whatsoever to Australia, you couldn't be more off base in your understanding of how Eccies and other drugs are manufactured here. (Granted your clearly a Pom)

In Australia these drugs are manufactured by bikies in suburban homes with pill presses operated by people like Carl Williams and his family.

The manufacture pure garbage and push it on people at exorbitant prices.

I had a suspicion that was probably the case but figured the internet would have made the above a bit redundant in recent years in any case.

But that just goes to show what a successful "war on drugs" looks like. Here you have a relatively safe substance that's now being pressed with all sorts of shit and is now infinitely more harmful and dangerous than it ought to be.

Anyone advocating illegal drug use obviously has never witnessed someone close to them die as a result - If you had, you would definitely be singing a different tune.

I haven't. I've lost family as a result of alcohol abuse though. That's an emotional argument if there ever was one.

 

[Perth Red]

lol if ever you needed evidence of why not to take drugs you can find it on this thread. Driving kills more people than ecstasy? How many people drive a day compared to pop E? Got to love strawmen arguments. Less people get killed by tigers at zoos every year but I wouldn't suggest you jump into a tiger enclosure to get up close and personnel.

As said there is something to be said for letting dope heads smoke, inject or pop themselves to death if they want to, Darwinism at its finest.

 

[Pete Cash]

MDMA is on the safer side of drugs from an objective point of view. I don't know why anyone is getting a huff on about this. Again wicks did break the law and he shouldn't be made a martyr but that doesn't necessarily make MDMA suddenly especially dangerous. All drugs carry risk the interactions that make them fun take some toll on the body. MDMA is less addictive, causes far less anti social problems and is less dangerous than alcohol. Not completely safe but what is.

Most of the risk comes from the clandestine nature of the operation. That said there has been a resurgence in quality of late.

 

[WaznTheGreat]

Drugs are bad mmkay

 

[Masoe_eats_babies]

lol if ever you needed evidence of why not to take drugs you can find it on this thread. Driving kills more people than ecstasy? How many people drive a day compared to pop E? Got to love strawmen arguments. Less people get killed by tigers at zoos every year but I wouldn't suggest you jump into a tiger enclosure to get up close and personnel.

As said there is something to be said for letting dope heads smoke, inject or pop themselves to death if they want to, Darwinism at its finest.

Not what I was trying to say. I didn't say that driving kills more people than ecstasy. What I said, or what I suggested, is that driving does kill(it also serves a necessary function but besides the point for sake of argument) - but would anyone have qualms with me saying that driving is safe? Your analogy is a reach. If 500,000 people jump into a tiger cage, tens of thousands die at least. Wtf?

There are half a million ecstasy consumers in the UK each year. Of those, 5 at best die from MDMA (figures from anti-drug/anti-addiction charities). The risk factor is absolutely comparable to driving in that the risk of death factor for both is negligible, probably something like 0.something0something0somethingsomethingsomethingpoint2%. In fact, 1 death a year per every 100,000 drivers doesn't sound unreasonable at all... so I really have no idea what you're going on about with people jumping in tiger cages like they're even close to comparable...

You live in Australia. Poisonous snakes, spiders, etc. f**king drop bears and dingos. How can you talk about Darwinism with a straight face? If you believed in it that much you'd move to a country where said risks don't exist. Stfu :lol::lol:

 

[ACTPanthers]

I had a suspicion that was probably the case but figured the internet would have made the above a bit redundant in recent years in any case.

But that just goes to show what a successful "war on drugs" looks like. Here you have a relatively safe substance that's now being pressed with all sorts of shit and is now infinitely more harmful and dangerous than it ought to be.



I haven't. I've lost family as a result of alcohol abuse though. That's an emotional argument if there ever was one.

I find it strange that given the above, you're still advocating the use of illegal drugs... When legal ones, such as alcohol, can have such a detrimental effect, how would the illegal ones be any safer?

 

[Pete Cash]

Not all drugs are the same. Alcohol is one of the harder drugs and even then most people can drink responsibly. I don't advocate anyone doing anything. I've used MDMA I think its probably the most fun drug there is but I wouldn't tell anyone to do anything.

The facts are the facts though. For a drug it's relatively safe. Not completely safe. No drug is.

 

[Paullyboy]

Hmm no, I just think that a bunch of you need to get out more if you think ecstacy is something worth vilifying someone for. Kills less people than people who eat and drive. Kills less people than crossing the street at a pedestrian crossing. Capturing the feeling you get from it is worth it. It feels good man! Really good. Wish I had some now. Munch munch munch.

Oh man, your comments are just too good to be true. So when you say 'need to get out more' you mean I need to go to Future and Stereosonic more? You're one of those degenerates that spends months at the gym before a dance festival in the hope that someone might think you're cool aren't you?

Others have pointed out how ridiculous your 'kills less people than driving' argument. But I feel it's appropriate I mention that as well because of the sheer stupidity of it.

 

[MacDougall]

Oh man, your comments are just too good to be true. So when you say 'need to get out more' you mean I need to go to Future and Stereosonic more? You're one of those degenerates that spends months at the gym before a dance festival in the hope that someone might think you're cool aren't you?

Others have pointed out how ridiculous your 'kills less people than driving' argument. But I feel it's appropriate I mention that as well because of the sheer stupidity of it.

Please quote me correctly. I said eating and driving. Like, people eating a big mac while driving.

No, I am not a gym junkie. No you shouldn't go to those festivals because there are a bunch of shirtless morons raping people on the dancefloor.

I actually was hospitalised when I was young because I had a psychotic episode from smoking cones and eating too much LSD. I'm not advocating drugs, far from it. Pills are meh. The only people who die from eating pills either cocktail it or they buy it from a dodgy prick. I'm not going to vilify Danny Wicks for selling pills to people. Nobody should. It's such a lightweight offence. I don't know why you're getting upset about it. People die doing all sorts of random things. Random things that don't give 99.9% of people who do it euphoria that cannot be matched.

 

[expert]

Wicks is doing alright!

 

[natheel]

played well again v Warriors. Bends the line well. Hope we give him another contract. He's better than Lussick

 

[Masoe_eats_babies]

I find it strange that given the above, you're still advocating the use of illegal drugs... When legal ones, such as alcohol, can have such a detrimental effect, how would the illegal ones be any safer?

I wouldn't personalyl characterise myself as advocating anything. My positions are as follows:

1. People who sell and consume drugs aren't necessarily "scum".
2. Illegal drugs aren't necessarily safe or unsafe, or safer or unsafer than legal drugs (anti-depressants, alcohol, etc).
3. Current drug legislation criminalises otherwise decent individuals - primarily working class and non-white people - and makes said drugs much more dangerous than they otherwise would be.
4. The vast majority of people who do not consume illegal drugs presently would not suddenly start to do so based on alterations to the law; legal highstreet drugs aren't widely consumed just because they're legal, for example.
5. Drug users should be given support rather than criminalisation and social vilifcation - which so often has the consequence of worsening the drug taking and criminal behaviour.

I'm not saying I'm right or wrong. These are all opinions. But they're things I think are true and I genuinely believe if we took a more mature and less reactionary approach that society would be better for it, tackling addiction, lowering negative health consequences and cutting crime.

And while I can sympathise with people who've lost loved ones because I know the feeling, I honestly don't think we should put too much currency into it. If you're on trial for murder you will be judged by impartial members of the public with no connection to the case as opposed to the friends and family of the victim. Emotion can cloud judgements.

Hopefully that helps to explain where I'm coming from even if it does seem a bit unusual.

 

[undertaker]

I actually was hospitalised when I was young because I had a psychotic episode from smoking cones and eating too much LSD.

Too bad you're still in one all these years later

 

[Ulysseus]

Like I said you can tell the dodgy crooked merkins on here by their attitude to drug scum.

It is a product and a service.
If you don't want it don't buy it or seek it out.
The End

 

[MacDougall]

Too bad you're still in one all these years later

Don't tell anyone.

 

[underwater]

Still doing well