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the nrl and its need to grow

alien

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THE NRL AND ITS NEED TO GROW
OCTOBER 12, 2015

When the NSWRL became the ARL in 1995, expansion was the goal. Previously uncharted areas opened in North Queensland (Cowboys), Perth (Western Reds) and Auckland (Warriors) with a second Brisbane team (South Queensland Crushers) to hopefully challenge the powerful Broncos. Further expansion included AFL-centric Adelaide (Rams) and Melbourne (Storm).

Twenty years later, the national comp hasn’t eventuated. The Reds, Rams and Crushers are gone and the only further expansion has been the Gold Coast (Titans). Nine of the 16 NRL teams are based in Sydney (not counting Newcastle) and there are no teams west of the QLD and NSW.

You could argue the AFL is still heavily Victorian, but their scope is larger, with teams everywhere except Tasmania and Northern Territory. Four of the eighteen teams are based in “non-traditional” areas QLD, NSW and ACT (Brisbane Lions, Gold Coast Suns, Sydney Swans, GWS Giants).

If the NRL is to become a genuine national competition, then expansion is a must. Queensland’s dominance in Origin, the first ever all-Queensland grand final and Northern Pride and Ipswich Jets winning both State Championships shows the traditional Sydney base is fading away.

Expansion areas are obvious: a second Brisbane team is a must (the Brisbane Bombers are ready to go), Perth – unfairly dumped after the Super League war – are worth another shot, another New Zealand team and a Central Queensland team. The Central Coast Bears have been making a case since the Northern Eagles died but they would add to the traffic of NSW teams.

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What about Sydney? When the NRL dumped Souths in the early 2000s, the Rabbitohs fans protested until they were let back in. The Sydney teams – with decades of tradition and support – won’t go away quietly.

Western Sydney has Parramatta and Penrith, Eastern Sydney has the Sydney Roosters and Souths, the Sharks and St. George-Illawarra have a strong rivalry in the shire. Canterbury enjoys a loyal and multicultural following while Manly have been successful and love playing at Brooky.

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The weakest candidates are Cronulla and the Wests Tigers. The Sharks were a basket case this time last year, torn apart by ASADA. To their credit, they’ve picked themselves up and made the finals, they deserve to keep going. The Tigers are one of the most frustrating teams. On paper they look dangerous, but have won just one premiership in 15 years. The Balmain and Wests partnership is an unhappy marriage, favourite son Robbie Farah has all but been forced out, they have multiple home grounds and their various jerseys are a mess. While Gus Gould loves Sunday footy at Leichhardt or Campbelltown, it may be a while before the Tigers are strong again.

The first ARL premiership had 20 teams and there were a combined 22 teams in the 1997 Super League and ARL comps. The NRL doesn’t want a bloated competition. The AFL has 18 teams, so let’s work with that number.

Drop the Wests Tigers (sorry Tigers fans, but you still have a NSW Cup team) and include the Brisbane Bombers, Perth and a second New Zealand team (Wellington).

Suddenly the spread is looking better: eight Sydney teams (Roosters, Bulldogs, Sharks, Rabbitohs, Dragons, Sea Eagles, Panthers, Eels), four Queensland teams (Broncos, Cowboys, Titans, Bombers), two New Zealand teams (Warriors, Wellington), Newcastle, Canberra, Melbourne and Perth. Less than half the teams are Sydney-based, with a quarter in Queensland and teams in NZ, Victoria and WA.

What about the competition structure?

Divide the comp into five pools: Roosters, Rabbitohs, Bulldogs, Sea Eagles in Pool A; Sharks, Dragons, Panthers and Eels in Pool B; the four Queenslanders in Pool C; Newcastle, Warriors and Wellington in Pool D and Raiders, Storm and Perth in Pool E. Each team would play 17 “round robin” games and play their pool sides twice for a grand total of 20 games (pools D and E would crossover for an extra game). Throw in three complete byes for Origin and you’ve got 23 weeks of footy before the top eight finals. The final three rounds will be mostly derbies, perfect for the much-hyped run to the finals. Imagine a Broncos v Bombers derby at a capacity Lang Park, or a Warriors v Wellington derby to close the regular season?

With nine games a round, how would scheduling work?

Channel Nine would start with Thursday and Friday night football. There would be three Saturday games: the 3pm and 5:30pm games on Fox and a 7:30pm game on Nine. There’d be at least three Sunday games to finish the round: two during the day (Fox at 2pm, Nine at 4pm) and a Sunday night game on Fox. No need for Monday night footy – nobody likes it and it would stretch the round to five days. Perth and the two Kiwi teams create options for the last game; if the Warriors or Wellington play on Sunday the game will air on Fox at midday (Australian time) for a Sunday triple header. If Perth have a home night game, the 9:30pm LIVE start in Eastern Australia is perfect for a Thursday, Friday or Saturday night double-header on Nine.

http://thesportport.com.au/2015/10/12/the-nrl-and-its-need-to-grow/
 
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Perth weren't dumped...they were relocated to Melbourne.

That said, there needs to be teams in cities and not suburbs.

Short term you'd have to think Perth, Brisbane 2 // West Brisbane and NZ2 are teams to come in.

Mid term, probably a Central Coast team, Central Qld and Northern Brisbane.

Long term, Adelaide, and any combination of Tassie, Darwin, PNG and Pacifica.

The mid and long term could be facilitated by Sydney relocations with development of the Pacific/PNG teams including infrastructure, etc done in conjunction with foreign aid grants (hey...the AFL got away with it, and at least RL would actually be meaningful).

The game has plenty of scope and potential to grow its heartland and expand in to new and exciting territories and not become money pit basket cases and flags on a map. The product is entertaining and there is definite interest in the code in non-NSW/QLD markets.

As well as market expansion, I would like to see broad ranging policies brought in, regarding salary cap (concessions, etc), junior development, game wide sponsorships and revenues, and protection/further development of markets such as Canberra, Melbourne, Warriors, Nth Qld and Newcastle to ensure their long term viability.

The game has a lot to do, a lot to look forward to, as well as some pain. But all of this, if the right people are in the right places, can make RL the envy of the rest of the Australian landscape.
 

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All things being equal I'd co locate Roosters with Gosford and Nth beaches and rename East Coast Roosters. Move Tigers to Perth, West Coast Tigers, drop Manly to NSW cup bring in STh Qlnd Jets for a 16 team comp, 2021 PNG and Wellington. 18 team comp, 2025 Adelaide or Fiji and Brisbane3 or CQ for a 20 team pacific comp in two conferences
 

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All things being equal I'd co locate Roosters with Gosford and Nth beaches and rename East Coast Roosters. Move Tigers to Perth, West Coast Tigers, drop Manly to NSW cup bring in STh Qlnd Jets for a 16 team comp, 2021 PNG and Wellington. 18 team comp, 2025 Adelaide or Fiji and Brisbane3 or CQ for a 20 team pacific comp in two conferences

western magpies :)
 

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Convinced RL likes being a big fish in a very small pond. I see no signs that is ever likely to change. Such a great sport, such a shite administration.
 
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The NRL will expand when it can afford too.
No point in going down the aFL road of expansion at any cost and then see then see the coffers running dry like whats happening with the aFL
 

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All things being equal I'd co locate Roosters with Gosford and Nth beaches and rename East Coast Roosters. Move Tigers to Perth, West Coast Tigers, drop Manly to NSW cup bring in STh Qlnd Jets for a 16 team comp, 2021 PNG and Wellington. 18 team comp, 2025 Adelaide or Fiji and Brisbane3 or CQ for a 20 team pacific comp in two conferences


Tigers cover South West and Parts of Inner West, no way they will be moving champ.

I like your roosters idea. :clap::clap:

Drop Manly :lol::lol: terrible idea.

Another QLD team in Sth Qld a must.

Expansion in order : Brisbane 2, Perth, Wellington.

NSW Cup Expansion : Fiji, Wellington, Perth, Adelaide.

QLD Cup expansion : PNG2, Samao, Tonga, NT
 

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All things being equal I'd co locate Roosters with Gosford and Nth beaches and rename East Coast Roosters. Move Tigers to Perth, West Coast Tigers, drop Manly to NSW cup bring in STh Qlnd Jets for a 16 team comp, 2021 PNG and Wellington. 18 team comp, 2025 Adelaide or Fiji and Brisbane3 or CQ for a 20 team pacific comp in two conferences

:roll:

Gosford and Northern Beaches together? You've just looked at a map and gone "that'll work".
 

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Tigers cover South West and Parts of Inner West, no way they will be moving champ.

I like your roosters idea. :clap::clap:

Drop Manly :lol::lol: terrible idea.

Another QLD team in Sth Qld a must.

Expansion in order : Brisbane 2, Perth, Wellington.

NSW Cup Expansion : Fiji, Wellington, Perth, Adelaide.

QLD Cup expansion : PNG2, Samao, Tonga, NT

People keep saying Wellington. But Christchurch is the club attempting to enter NSW Cup
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league...rl-team-gets-boost-with-feeder-team-announced

Toowoomba are attempting to join QLD Cup from 2017...
 
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alien

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Tigers cover South West

no they don't! they are planning on playing all their home games in the inner west (anz stadium) starting from 2017. maybe wests tigers should just stay in the inner west whilst the outer south west of sydney gets their own team. "macarthur magpies" sounds good! :)
 

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I think he wants the brand to have some sort of recognition. Hence the tigers and not magpies.

it's preposterous that some people actually believe the tiger brand deserves to be in the nrl when balmange are financially f**ked, whilst the magpies are millionaires.
 
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The NRL need to bite the bullet and make some tough decisions;
South Sydney Rabbitohs
East Coast Roosters (Central Coast)
Manly Warringah Sea Eagles (Northern Beaches)
Parramatta Eels
Penrith Panthers
Western Bulldogs
St George Dragons (Illawarra)
West Coast Tigers (Perth)
Brisbane Broncos
North Qld Cowboys
Canberra Raiders
Newcastle Knights
Melbourne Storm
NZ Warriors
Gold Coast Titans (lucky to be there)
Move the Sharks to QLD.
Two sides relocated, one partly, three new areas introduced.
Look at more changes in another 15-20 years.
 
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