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Squad succession

Gronk

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The Dyldam Parramatta Eels have today announced the signing of outside back Clinton Gutherson to the club for the next two seasons.

The Eels have also signed 20 year-old forward Matthew Woods from the Wests Tigers for the 2016 season.

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Gronk

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Woods

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caylo

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It was definitely in the gameplan or he wouldn't have continued to do it, and wouldn't have continued to get picked..

He played 14 games all year, jnr who was suspended for 9 matches played more games then him. In comparisonother back ups like Terpeo, Luke and Farimo played 13, 12 and 11 games respectively and sef was rarely injured. He was a back up, a terrible one at that. I went to plenty of games and most games i can remember a half having to yell to get him out the way... Stuff you don't see on tv you merkin.

You assume it was part of BA game plan but you don't know. I think your wrong, I've explained why and unless BA himself comes on to tell me otherwise you can't prove it was a plan.
 

Poupou Escobar

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He played 14 games all year, jnr who was suspended for 9 matches played more games then him. In comparisonother back ups like Terpeo, Luke and Farimo played 13, 12 and 11 games respectively and sef was rarely injured. He was a back up, a terrible one at that.

He was top 17 right up until mid-season when he was made a backup. This coincided with when Kelly was brought into the side.

I went to plenty of games and most games i can remember a half having to yell to get him out the way... Stuff you don't see on tv you merkin.

I'm sure you do 'remember' it. You obviously have very strong opinions about the player in question.

You assume it was part of BA game plan but you don't know. I think your wrong, I've explained why and unless BA himself comes on to tell me otherwise you can't prove it was a plan.

I don't have to prove it any more than you have to prove otherwise. It's my opinion, and there is more evidence in support of it than against. I agree with Joshuatheeel - it was part of the gameplan for the first half of the season, just as it was part of the gameplan all last year and the two years prior.
 

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Added the latest official signings:

2016
Fullback: French, Gordon, Moss
W/C: Faraimo, Folau, Gutherson, Lavaka, Morgan, Radradra, Schulte, Toutai
Half: Cornish, Foran, Kelly, Matterson, Norman
Hooker: De Gois, King, Peats, Pritchard
Edge forward: Edwards, Gower, Ma'u, Moeroa, Pauli, Scott, Tanginoa, Ualesi
Tight forward: Alvaro, Hasson, Mannah, O'Brien, Paulo, Terepo, Watmough, Wicks, Woods
Utility: Nelson, Takairangi

2017
Fullback: French
W/C: Folau, Gutherson, Morgan, Radradra
Half: Foran, Matterson
Hooker: -
Edge forward: Edwards, Gower, Ma'u, Moeroa, Pauli, Scott
Tight forward: Mannah, Terepo, Watmough
Utility: Takairangi

2018
Fullback: French
W/C: Radradra
Half: Foran
Hooker: -
Edge forward: Scott
Tight forward: Watmough

2019
Fullback: -
W/C: -
Half: Foran
Hooker: -
Edge forward: -
Tight forward: -

So officially we have 39 merkins contracted for next year. Lavaka and Matterson are removed from the official profiles (while Hopoate and Paulo are still up) so I'm waiting on confirmation.
 

Joshuatheeel

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He played 14 games all year, jnr who was suspended for 9 matches played more games then him. In comparisonother back ups like Terpeo, Luke and Farimo played 13, 12 and 11 games respectively and sef was rarely injured. He was a back up, a terrible one at that. I went to plenty of games and most games i can remember a half having to yell to get him out the way... Stuff you don't see on tv you merkin.

You assume it was part of BA game plan but you don't know. I think your wrong, I've explained why and unless BA himself comes on to tell me otherwise you can't prove it was a plan.

It was the gameplan in 2014 not 2015. We changed our attacking structure around this year.
 

Poupou Escobar

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I reckon we changed mid-year. Remember as well, at the start of the year Watmough was trying to be a playmaker.
 

Poupou Escobar

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The profiles are always outdated and/or outright bullshit. It's not in the clubs' interest to provide current data on their players.
 

Poupou Escobar

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If idiots can't tell the difference between fact and opinion they've got bigger problems than worrying about hating blokes on the internet.

I'll start using 'IMO' and other pissweak qualifiers when you and the rest of these merkins do. Everything we say here is our opinion. When it isn't we provide links, don't we?
 

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He was top 17 right up until mid-season when he was made a backup. This coincided with when Kelly was brought into the side.

I'm sure you do 'remember' it. You obviously have very strong opinions about the player in question.
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Sorry he was dropped before kelly came in and probably would have seen next to no footy if others were here. Its a limitation in his game, he does not have the mindset of a forward. I don't believe in this middle half, you do. You think there is enough evidence, i don't. Watmough did try an ball play buy differently, he tried to push passes at or after the line. Paulo threw well before which makes ot ineffective in general.

You claim a lot, but I've said before reality is perception. You speak confidently and people believe you but i see someone who doesn't understand the game and over simplifies concepts. I generally disagree with most of your opinions and this isn't a personal attack more me pointing out my perception of your limitations.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Btw pou, there is no facts in life just opinions!!

There are definitely facts. But that doesn't mean we always agree on them. Even a link to a 'reputable source' is a link to some merkin's opinion. The appeal to authority just means some opinions are worth more than others. Our own opinions obviously mean more to us than they do to others.
 

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I definitely think there if a place for a middle half if he is also a good runner of the ball. It can create an additional focus for the defence to sorry about.

Someone like dymock out Jason smith would be an awesome middle half.

If matto stayed,he could've been groomed into it. Edwards would also suit the role.

Watmough no because he is not a. Natural passer.
 

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Sorry he was dropped before kelly came in and probably would have seen next to no footy if others were here.

Bro do you even fact check?

Kelly's first game of the year was in round 10, which happens to be the first game Paulo missed. Now that doesn't mean Paulo was dropped because Kelly came in - there could certainly be some coincidence in there, and I'm sure there was, since they did play together on four occasions later in the season (in rounds 16, 20, 21 and 24, after injuries had torn us up). But even though it's not conclusive, this fact supports my argument more than yours. What I believe happened is that when Kelly came into the team, Arthur changed his gameplan, and picked his bench with a view to not needing a middle half at any stage of the game. Therefore Paulo missed out.

Its a limitation in his game, he does not have the mindset of a forward.

Which is why he wasn't used as one. Do you think Arthur doesn't know what he's doing?

I don't believe in this middle half, you do.

Call it something else then if it means you don't have to agree with me.

You think there is enough evidence, i don't.

Until round ten he played in every game Arthur ever coached in first grade, including 2012. He consistently played the same way without getting dropped, and was only finally removed from the team when Kelly replaced Sandow (and it was clear the latter wouldn't be here next year).

I understand you believe Paulo's release to the Sharks proves he was disobeying the coach's orders but if that was the case he would have been axed last year, instead of playing every game.

Personally, given he was re-signed so late last year, I thought Paulo would be a backup from round one. I was surprised he played so much first grade, especially early on.

Watmough did try an ball play buy differently, he tried to push passes at or after the line. Paulo threw well before which makes ot ineffective in general.

Actually he was very effective last year, hitting the decoy runner when the defence cheated out to the half. He was behind only Norman for LBAs (my favourite!) He was less effective this year for whatever reason, probably due to the loss of Hayne and the inclusion of Watmough. Or maybe his shit just fell out of his showbag with Norman yelling at him.

You claim a lot, but I've said before reality is perception. You speak confidently and people believe you but i see someone who doesn't understand the game and over simplifies concepts. I generally disagree with most of your opinions and this isn't a personal attack more me pointing out my perception of your limitations.

At least you try to have a discussion.
 

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If idiots can't tell the difference between fact and opinion they've got bigger problems than worrying about hating blokes on the internet.

and how do you tell the difference between idoits and non idiots

I'll start using 'IMO' and other pissweak qualifiers when you and the rest of these merkins do. Everything we say here is our opinion. When it isn't we provide links, don't we?

yes you should, like everyone else does as it causes less problems

its not pissweak Pou, its etiquette
 

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