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Madge Contract status

Pommy

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It's believed Madge has softened his approach too much now and players are taking advantage of that.

More than likely the players have just stopped listening to him shout at them, thats what happens when you choose that form of leadership.
 

handyman2190

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More than likely the players have just stopped listening to him shout at them, thats what happens when you choose that form of leadership.

Its funny first he is too much now he is too little dont believe the crap and bullS.... the talent just isnt there anymore dont forget madge inherited a team that was talented but just couldnt put it together and he molded that team with minimal inclusions
He has now lost a lot of talent and just cant cope simple as that and the disturbing thing is we cant attract any players thats why i say madge has to go
 

Rabbits20

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Its funny first he is too much now he is too little dont believe the crap and bullS.... the talent just isnt there anymore dont forget madge inherited a team that was talented but just couldnt put it together and he molded that team with minimal inclusions
He has now lost a lot of talent and just cant cope simple as that and the disturbing thing is we cant attract any players thats why i say madge has to go
Word is Madge has softened his approach too much as the players weren't happy with just his disciplinarian approach. But some players have taken advantage of that and are causing trouble.

I still think we persist with Madge. We have had 4 successful seasons under him. No need to panic yet,

We just need Richo to get things going recruitment wise.

Remember recruitment isn't really Madge's responsibility. However he probably does get some say.

As I said time for Richo to step up.
 

CAFPOW

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Buzz: Busted Bunnies on the brink

THE day started out with chairman Nick Pappas proudly announcing on Twitter that it was the 15th anniversary of South Sydney’s reinstatement to the NRL.

Within hours we got the latest dramatic instalment of the implosion that has left the 2014 premiers in crisis following the revelation centre Kirisome Auva’a was facing a 12-week drug ban.

What more could go wrong?

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Since winning the NRL premiership, almost everything has gone wrong for South Sydney.
Two players almost dying from drug overdoses, the Arizona cover-up, the sacking of a grand final-winning skipper and a 22-week domestic violence ban.

A star player in a boozy fallout with the Hollywood owner, five players forced out by a million-dollar signing. A player being stood down for disciplinary reasons and another who verbally slammed the coach on his departure to another club. And three different CEO’s

Welcome to the soap opera that is now the South Sydney Rabbitohs.

It’s hard to believe less than two years ago this club was again the pride of the league. The premiers, more members and more merchandise sales than any other club. And more hope for a great future.

Then suddenly it all falls apart. Crowds are down 17 per cent compared to 2014.

They have lost their past five games and would need to win seven of their remaining nine to sneak into the finals with 28 points.

It’s a tough, almost impossible ask, especially as they face the Broncos, Storm, Sharks and Bulldogs in the run home.

One of the problems is that coach Michael Maguire has probably gone from being too hard to too soft. From a military style to a more a relaxed approach.

Senior players fronted him last year and said his style was too severe and too demanding. He was losing the dressing room and needed to step back and lower the intensity. It was no longer fun. Maguire took it all on board.

Now he never criticises the team, even after five straight losses. Like his remarks after Sunday’s 20-0 loss to the Cowboys.

“The boys are showing plenty of character about where we are as a club,” or “The effort was there” or “we’re growing as a group.”

It used to be: “That was terrible, they didn’t tackle, we didn’t have a go.”

It’s like now he’s almost too scared to tell the players what he really thinks.

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South Sydney coach Michael Maguire has been unabel to rediscover that winning formula.
There are other issues too. While their army of supporters were thrilled to get failed England rugby union convert Sam Burgess back, it seems a lot of the players weren’t.

Certainly not on his reported pay packet of $1.2 million which not only soaked up any available third parties but, outside of Greg Inglis, doubled the contracts of every other player.

It forced the club to shove five first grade regulars out the door – Issac Luke, Chris McQueen, Dylan Walker, Glenn Stewart, and Tim Grant. Throw in the departure of Ben Te’o from the premiership winning team and it’s easy to see why they are now struggling.

Especially as Burgess has failed to reproduce any of his 2014 form. Not that this a crisis the club is prepared to discuss in public.

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Sam Burgess has failed to deliver on his big pay cheque.
Owner Russell Crowe, chairman Nick Pappas, CEO Blake Solly and Maguire refused to return phone calls, text messages or emails on Wednesday.

To hell with the members and fans, many of whom are rightfully demanding answers.

*The Rabbitohs finally issued a statement on the Auva’a drug ban last night. It read:

“South Sydney Rabbitohs are aware of an NRL notice of contravention that has been issued to player Kirisome Auva’a following a second breach of the NRL’s Testing Policy for illicit and hazardous substances.

“Auva’a did not return a positive test for an illicit or hazardous substance, but contravened the rules as set out in the NRL Policy.

“The player had until 4pm today (Wednesday) to lodge an appeal. Neither Auva’a nor his representatives have chosen to do so.

“The Rabbitohs will be following a process; in conjunction with the NRL, RLPA and the player; regarding possible sanctions, rehabilitation and support. This will be discussed at a Football Club Board meeting next week.”
 

alien

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thanks for posting the article. it sounds like to me we need the old madge back, and some players who don't like it need to sod off!
 

Pommy

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5 players forced out. Nothing like twisting the facts. The biggest one of those had announced he was leaving mid season last year.

thanks for posting the article. it sounds like to me we need the old madge back, and some players who don't like it need to sod off!

If people haven't worked in an environment which requires leadership in this way it might be hard to understand why Madges form of 'leadership' is such a bad idea. It might work initially but it won't in the long run.
Day 1 week 1 at leadership school they show a video of someone like Madge and tell you to do the exact opposite.
 

alien

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If people haven't worked in an environment which requires leadership in this way it might be hard to understand why Madges form of 'leadership' is such a bad idea. It might work initially but it won't in the long run.
Day 1 week 1 at leadership school they show a video of someone like Madge and tell you to do the exact opposite.

What was Madge's form of leadership though?
 

Pommy

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What was Madge's form of leadership though?

From what we've heard and the fact the dressing room cameras were covered shooting and balling seems to be his style. Being a dictator.
If you want to get a group of young men to work towards a goal that is not the way to go about it. There are of course times when its needed but by all accounts Madge has used it too often.
Look at Wayne Bennett not that long ago he would turn up for training and do the runs with the guys, inspiring people by example is a much better philosophy.
 

alien

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From what we've heard and the fact the dressing room cameras were covered shooting and balling seems to be his style. Being a dictator.
If you want to get a group of young men to work towards a goal that is not the way to go about it. There are of course times when its needed but by all accounts Madge has used it too often.
Look at Wayne Bennett not that long ago he would turn up for training and do the runs with the guys, inspiring people by example is a much better philosophy.

maybe he has gone from too severe to too relaxed, or maybe some of the players just aren't switched on during the games
 

Pommy

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maybe he has gone from too severe to too relaxed, or maybe some of the players just aren't switched on during the games

If thats the case what use is he? Honestly hope he goes this summer we need a new direction. Actually we just need a direction any direction.
 

alien

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If thats the case what use is he? Honestly hope he goes this summer we need a new direction. Actually we just need a direction any direction.

I think the main thing is we need to sign some new players and let some of our current players go
 

Rabbits20

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thanks for posting the article. it sounds like to me we need the old madge back, and some players who don't like it need to sod off!
That was the article alien.

Thanks to CAFPOW.

It's one big headache currently alien.

I'm surprised Madge has hair left and hasn't fainted.

What a circus. Geez...........
 

Rabbits20

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maybe he has gone from too severe to too relaxed, or maybe some of the players just aren't switched on during the games
In his time with us Madge has trained with the boys.

Problem was he got injured doing so and medical advice was he can't do so anymore.

It's a combination of things imo alien.

Player power I o is too high these days.

Madge needs to go back to how he was but still keep it relaxes at times.

The changes Madge has made in being more relaxed shows it gives poor results.

Like in any job hard work is required and effort.

The players have to stop sooking and put in as I've said many times.

They get paid a bloody hell of a lot alien.

Get them a weeks work in retail and then they'll realise how good they've got it.

Get them overeas to a poor country in the offseason and then they'll notice that what they're sooking about isn't important and how blessed they are.
 
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