Foot on the line and catch ball = out

[Front-Rower]

https://www.nrl.com/portals/nrl/radeditor/documents/arl rules book 2016.pdf

Pg 23 section 9 point 1

Pretty clearly states that once the ball touches an object or player who is outside the field of play, including being on the line, it shall be deemed as in touch.

 

[Danish]

https://www.nrl.com/portals/nrl/radeditor/documents/arl rules book 2016.pdf

Pg 23 section 9 point 1

Pretty clearly states that once the ball touches an object or player who is outside the field of play, including being on the line, it shall be deemed as in touch.

Yes, and that player is deemed to have taken it into touch. See the point on a defending player fielding a kick while straddling the touch in goal or dead ball line resulting in a dropout.

Unless they have different rules for the touch in goal and dead ball lines compared to the normal touch line

 

[nick87]

My immediate thought would be that there are quite a few differences the in-goal and the field of play.

The in-goal thing is exactly why i think it's a ridiculous rule that should be changed. If the ball is kicked and touched on the full, different story, im fine with that, but bouncing ball has already been established as in the field of play, i dont see why a player can play at the ball in the field of play, take it out and his team retain possession.

The warriors play flat out f**ked up, the ball was live and in play, he played at it the ball, caught it and took it into touch, no different in my mind to a player being tackled over the sideline. By any reasonable, common sense measure that should result in a turn over.

Im not arguing about what the rule is, i know what the rule is and they correctly adjudicated it based on the current rules. IMO the rule defies common sense

 

[papabear]

Ball Dead

Where the ball which is stationary in the field of play or the in-goal area comes in contact with a player in touch, touch in-goal or over the dead ball line, the ball is deemed to have been made dead by that player.
Dead Ball line re-starts
Should a kick be made dead by a defending player straddling the dead ball line or touch in-goal line, play will re-start with a goal line drop-out.(S8,Law 4(i)Page 19)

See the relevant rule above. Please note that the above is in the notes section for section 8 Touch and touch in goal.

My interpretation of the rule was the ball was still in play as it had not bounced and hit anywhere "in touch" until a player "in touch" caught the ball. Pursuant to the above it would appear that it would have been taken in touch by that player. The example doesn't detail that the field of play or in touch is different from dead. Without specific laws suggesting the otherwise, I think they got the interpretation wrong.

Yes the ball is out when the warriors player touched, but no I do not think it is considered out of the raiders.

 

[DiegoNT]

But this doesn't apply in the in-goal right? Otherwise kicks into the in-goal would be out off the kicker if the fullback reached back into the field of play and touched the ball.

So why the difference?

Wasn't this a common tactic around 1999-2000. I remember seeing fullbacks regularly putting one foot over the dead ball line and raking the ball dead to get a 20m tap. Then the rules changed so they couldn't do it in goal anymore

 

[Front-Rower]

Yes, and that player is deemed to have taken it into touch. See the point on a defending player fielding a kick while straddling the touch in goal or dead ball line resulting in a dropout.

Unless they have different rules for the touch in goal and dead ball lines compared to the normal touch line

Never mind - saw another poster had already answered what I had asked

 

[Danish]

Never mind - saw another poster had already answered what I had asked

The rule may actually be different for the in goal area compared to the field of play. I just can't find any specific mention of how it is governed

 

[thorson1987]

Wasn't this a common tactic around 1999-2000. I remember seeing fullbacks regularly putting one foot over the dead ball line and raking the ball dead to get a 20m tap. Then the rules changed so they couldn't do it in goal anymore

See Paul Carige in 98 prelim.

 

[chrisD]

And does he have to catch it? Does it make a difference if he drops it or doesn't even attempt to catch it and just touches it from out of bounds?

 

[thorson1987]

And does he have to catch it? Does it make a difference if he drops it or doesn't even attempt to catch it and just touches it from out of bounds?

Nope. Just needs to touch him

 

[TimmyB]

The rule may actually be different for the in goal area compared to the field of play. I just can't find any specific mention of how it is governed

This is the rule that makes an exception for the in goal area:
"Should a kick be made dead by a defending player straddling the dead ball line or touch in-goal line, play will re-start with a goal line drop-out"

Note it doesn't say anything about straddling the touch line - so if a player is straddling the touch line, the normal rule applies, which is the player is considered part of the touch line.

 

[The Engineers Room]

This is really simple.

If a player is out (foot on or over the sideline) and he TOUCHES the ball it is out. It is considered to be out off whoever touched it before he does.

In the in goal, it is the same except only when on the full. It is has bounced then it it ruled that the player touching it made it dead. This was changed after Clinton Schifcofske used to reach out with his foot over the dead ball line.

In fact if I player runs from outside the field of play and jumps into the field of play then touches the ball before he touches the ground, that is out on the full.

 

[Damochandler]

Wasn't this a common tactic around 1999-2000. I remember seeing fullbacks regularly putting one foot over the dead ball line and raking the ball dead to get a 20m tap. Then the rules changed so they couldn't do it in goal anymore

That's what the rule was. If you put your foot in touch and knock the ball out. You still get the footy

 

[thorson1987]

That's what the rule was. If you put your foot in touch and knock the ball out. You still get the footy

Only if the ball was still rolling.