Madge Contract status

[souths_reborn]

Not sure if true but it has been said that he was asked to leave recently but he refuses to go before his contract is up at the end of 2017............in other words he wants a payout.

I've read its the opposite - that Shane Richardson wants him to stay because he likes his hard nosed coaching style and that its the players who will be shown the door.

 

[Rabbits20]

http://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl...6/news-story/d92582068b989f170e91e720033b45da

Richo is backing Madge.

Have a look at the article Southsport.


Southsport I also suggest you go into the desired movement squad thread for 2017 and give your input into who we can buy etc....

I await your input and ideas.

 

[southsport]

I've read its the opposite - that Shane Richardson wants him to stay because he likes his hard nosed coaching style and that its the players who will be shown the door.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl...6/news-story/d92582068b989f170e91e720033b45da

Richo is backing Madge.

Have a look at the article Southsport.


Southsport I also suggest you go into the desired movement squad thread for 2017 and give your input into who we can buy etc....

I await your input and ideas.

Well Richo is sure stating the opposite of what some others have said today, it will be a shame if in 12 months time we are in the same position as we are now.

 

[Rabbits20]

Well Richo is sure stating the opposite of what some others have said today, it will be a shame if in 12 months time we are in the same position as we are now.

Even with a new coach Southsport we are definitely in for more pain next season regardless.

I've already come to terms with it.

So far we are signing young ones and they aren't the answer, we need first grade player signings.

Signing Burns, Faumino, Tracey and Greinke ain't going to solve anything tbh with you.

 

[rabbitohs95]

Ive heard from a reliable source that the players hate playing under Madge. They didn't say who exactly but normally I don't listen to the bullshit from the media and I don't wanna be that guy who just makes up rumours. Hopefully it isn't true but the last few weeks might prove this correct...

 

[CAFPOW]

From what Richo has been saying these last 2 weeks. I don't think Madge will go, but with the exception of Sam, GI, Sutton and Reynolds, the rest are on the firing line and that includes senior players T. Burgess, AJ, Turner, Goodwin, G. Burgess. I won't be surprised if we see these names in a mass clean out.

 

[The Mad Hatter]

AJ got nothing now. Wasn't even a 2nd season wonder. And to think he was a future Immortal FB!!!

 

[southsport]

From what Richo has been saying these last 2 weeks. I don't think Madge will go, but with the exception of Sam, GI, Sutton and Reynolds, the rest are on the firing line and that includes senior players T. Burgess, AJ, Turner, Goodwin, G. Burgess. I won't be surprised if we see these names in a mass clean out.

Richo talking of a contract extension for Madge but that could be a smoke screen.

 

[CAFPOW]

Richo talking of a contract extension for Madge but that could be a smoke screen.

Yes, it could be a smoke screen , but, If I were Richo, I'd wait. If Richo gives Madge the roster he needs for next season and we miss the finals and still near the bottom of the ladder. Then perhaps, it's time for Madge to go. No need for a contract extension.

 

[CAFPOW]

AJ got nothing now. Wasn't even a 2nd season wonder. And to think he was a future Immortal FB!!!

AJ is only 21 yet, he's playing like a 30 yr old Merritt. We need players like Koroibete, Vunivalu, Mansour, Holmes, Oats. Players who can find the gaps and try line on their own.

 

[big hit!]

From what Richo has been saying these last 2 weeks. I don't think Madge will go, but with the exception of Sam, GI, Sutton and Reynolds, the rest are on the firing line and that includes senior players T. Burgess, AJ, Turner, Goodwin, G. Burgess. I won't be surprised if we see these names in a mass clean out.

most of those players won a premiership a couple of seasons ago. now they've suddenly turned to shit. one or two players? fair enough, but a decent premiership core have under performed or played lame since then. that includes Inglis.

did Maguire get a bunch of nuffies to win the premiership? i highly doubt that. this team was up for 3 seasons. sure the club has lost some quality since, but the team has been regularly losing by blow-out margins over the last 2 years, and the coach has persisted with the same old style. he's got nothing new. he is held in high regard for being the coach of the first premiership in 40-odd seasons, but Maguire's time is up at South Sydney. he's on surviving on the credits he earned in his first few seasons.

the club does not escape blame in this. they've agreed to some shit squad decisions in the last couple of seasons. it's the old south sydney again, and by old, I mean 1990-2010.

 

[big hit!]

Given that we are in a competition with a salary cap and that all the teams are pretty close together in terms of playing talent, it is often the coaches that prove to be the difference between the top teams and the bottom teams. Hence, the argument that Madge needs top quality players to succeed is a moot point because he is never going to have a squad full of star players to choose from; he is in the same position as every other NRL coach! Moreover, the team he inherited was arguably the same group of players that underachieved under John Lang, so if they were so good then why didn't they win the comp under his tutelage?

In saying that, you have hit the nail on the head when you mention the dummy half position. The only thing that I will correct you on is that you have got it the other way around; our big forwards need a hooker who can make metres from dummy half so that they can capitalise on defences that are constantly retreating. A hooker of that style is the key ingredient if you are going to play a power-style game otherwise it is too easy for opposition forwards to move up and close our big forwards down. Isaac Luke was perfect because he was so powerful out of dummy half that not only would he catch markers out but he would also suck in a couple of other defenders in the line. Hence, the likes of Burgess' and Ben Teo had an excellent platform to rumble forward from. That is one of the reason why we have struggled this season - because we don't regularly play a hooker who offers that style of play. In a sense, the work of Luke inflated the abilities of the Burgess' and even Teo. Don't get me wrong those guys were excellent in their own right but it was the work of Isaac Luke that allowed them to play the way they did. I think the whole idea that the Burgess' and Teo were unstoppable and could win games single handedly is a myth.

had 3 of peats, koriasau and luke, and let them all go. i understand that the former two wanted opportunities and that goodwill was extended to luke, but they let him go when there was no replacement in the squad.

these decisions have had a massive impact on the club now. but in saying that, it wouldn't have made a difference anyway. luke was still at the club towards the end of last season when the team was playing just as much like a busted arse as it is now. the coach has lost the playing group. instead of turning over the one common denominator, the club is virtually sacking the entire playing squad to achieve a solution. you'd think players publicly wanting out of the club is an indication that the it's being managed in a very poor way.

 

[souths_reborn]

had 3 of peats, koriasau and luke, and let them all go. i understand that the former two wanted opportunities and that goodwill was extended to luke, but they let him go when there was no replacement in the squad.

these decisions have had a massive impact on the club now. but in saying that, it wouldn't have made a difference anyway. luke was still at the club towards the end of last season when the team was playing just as much like a busted arse as it is now. the coach has lost the playing group. instead of turning over the one common denominator, the club is virtually sacking the entire playing squad to achieve a solution. you'd think players publicly wanting out of the club is an indication that the it's being managed in a very poor way.

I hear what you are saying but without being in the inner sanctum of the playing group, it is hard to think of a definite solution because we don't know what the problem is. If the playing group has lost motivation and has grown lazy then we shouldn't really be sacking a coach for that. In that instance, it is obviously the players fault and their apathetic attitude should not be rewarded. Player power has grown out of control in the modern game and it seems that they can get rid of a coach at will! If the players have indeed become like this, then I applaud Richardson for taking a strong stance. However, if it is more of a case of Maguire have running out of ideas, being tactically limited or exercising poor judgement in his team selection and treatment of players, then he should be the one to go. Whatever the case, we cannot go on like this; either the players or the coach has to go!

 

[hurricane57]

AJ is only 21 yet, he's playing like a 30 yr old Merritt. We need players like Koroibete, Vunivalu, Mansour, Holmes, Oats. Players who can find the gaps and try line on their own.

There is no way anybody can ever compare that chicken hearted prick Johnston to Nathan Merritt.
The differences are enormous, Johnston had one good season, playing along side a good back line and forward pack that put him into a lot of gaps - he hasn't even bent the defensive line for two years. He is unable to stop anybody in defense, one on one, they just push him away like he's nothing. Someone pointed out he is only 21 well, as a winger, at 21, he is already past his prime and to put him at fullback is suicidal because he can't tackle, he, and Gray, are unable to stop anybody trying to score a try, they just can't f**ken do it.

Merritt played with some very poor teams over a good many years and no one ever had reason to doubt his courage or commitment. Merritt pisses all over Johnston and that other no hoper Gray. Neither of these two so called footballers are first grade material and when Maguire put Gray at centre with Johnston on his out side it showed the world just how brain dead Maguire has become.

I would be extremely happy if Gray, Johnston and Maguire were sacked tomorrow and take McInnes and Jason Clarke along with them. Clarke was only ever mediocre and, after three f**king years of tryin Maguire still can't make a first grader out of McInnes. Though he got rid of three other superior hookers Maguire has to wear the disaster that is McInnes, he is f**king hopeless. No go forward, poor defense and ludicrous ball distribution.

Good things happen to good people ha f**king ha, but if you can't cut the mustard then its time to go.
How many shots can a player or coach reasonably expect.

 

[handyman2190]

There is no way anybody can ever compare that chicken hearted prick Johnston to Nathan Merritt.
The differences are enormous, Johnston had one good season, playing along side a good back line and forward pack that put him into a lot of gaps - he hasn't even bent the defensive line for two years. He is unable to stop anybody in defense, one on one, they just push him away like he's nothing. Someone pointed out he is only 21 well, as a winger, at 21, he is already past his prime and to put him at fullback is suicidal because he can't tackle, he, and Gray, are unable to stop anybody trying to score a try, they just can't f**ken do it.

Merritt played with some very poor teams over a good many years and no one ever had reason to doubt his courage or commitment. Merritt pisses all over Johnston and that other no hoper Gray. Neither of these two so called footballers are first grade material and when Maguire put Gray at centre with Johnston on his out side it showed the world just how brain dead Maguire has become.

I would be extremely happy if Gray, Johnston and Maguire were sacked tomorrow and take McInnes and Jason Clarke along with them. Clarke was only ever mediocre and, after three f**king years of tryin Maguire still can't make a first grader out of McInnes. Though he got rid of three other superior hookers Maguire has to wear the disaster that is McInnes, he is f**king hopeless. No go forward, poor defense and ludicrous ball distribution.

Good things happen to good people ha f**king ha, but if you can't cut the mustard then its time to go.
How many shots can a player or coach reasonably expect.

Wow what a gust of wind!! I actually agree with much of what youve said we can only hope that burns the jennings etc come good real quick

 

[Rabbits20]

There is no way anybody can ever compare that chicken hearted prick Johnston to Nathan Merritt.
The differences are enormous, Johnston had one good season, playing along side a good back line and forward pack that put him into a lot of gaps - he hasn't even bent the defensive line for two years. He is unable to stop anybody in defense, one on one, they just push him away like he's nothing. Someone pointed out he is only 21 well, as a winger, at 21, he is already past his prime and to put him at fullback is suicidal because he can't tackle, he, and Gray, are unable to stop anybody trying to score a try, they just can't f**ken do it.

Merritt played with some very poor teams over a good many years and no one ever had reason to doubt his courage or commitment. Merritt pisses all over Johnston and that other no hoper Gray. Neither of these two so called footballers are first grade material and when Maguire put Gray at centre with Johnston on his out side it showed the world just how brain dead Maguire has become.

I would be extremely happy if Gray, Johnston and Maguire were sacked tomorrow and take McInnes and Jason Clarke along with them. Clarke was only ever mediocre and, after three f**king years of tryin Maguire still can't make a first grader out of McInnes. Though he got rid of three other superior hookers Maguire has to wear the disaster that is McInnes, he is f**king hopeless. No go forward, poor defense and ludicrous ball distribution.

Good things happen to good people ha f**king ha, but if you can't cut the mustard then its time to go.
How many shots can a player or coach reasonably expect.

Correct re Gray and AJ.

Well Clark is about to re-sign with us.

Correct re Cam. Hopeless is spot on.

 

[Rabbits20]

Wow what a gust of wind!! I actually agree with much of what youve said we can only hope that burns the jennings etc come good real quick

Can the Jennings' and Burns do the shit work though coming out of our own end plus how they defend is the big question???

We may get Mead too.

 

[CAFPOW]

There is no way anybody can ever compare that chicken hearted prick Johnston to Nathan Merritt.
The differences are enormous, Johnston had one good season, playing along side a good back line and forward pack that put him into a lot of gaps - he hasn't even bent the defensive line for two years. He is unable to stop anybody in defense, one on one, they just push him away like he's nothing. Someone pointed out he is only 21 well, as a winger, at 21, he is already past his prime and to put him at fullback is suicidal because he can't tackle, he, and Gray, are unable to stop anybody trying to score a try, they just can't f**ken do it.

Merritt played with some very poor teams over a good many years and no one ever had reason to doubt his courage or commitment. Merritt pisses all over Johnston and that other no hoper Gray. Neither of these two so called footballers are first grade material and when Maguire put Gray at centre with Johnston on his out side it showed the world just how brain dead Maguire has become.

I would be extremely happy if Gray, Johnston and Maguire were sacked tomorrow and take McInnes and Jason Clarke along with them. Clarke was only ever mediocre and, after three f**king years of tryin Maguire still can't make a first grader out of McInnes. Though he got rid of three other superior hookers Maguire has to wear the disaster that is McInnes, he is f**king hopeless. No go forward, poor defense and ludicrous ball distribution.

Good things happen to good people ha f**king ha, but if you can't cut the mustard then its time to go.
How many shots can a player or coach reasonably expect.

Yes, Merritt has heart until the end. But I am comparing AJ to the Merritt that was playing for the Bears at the end of 2014.

 

[alien]

I'd have him before Toovey.

why??? toovey has the much better record as a 1st grade coach

 

[southsport]

why??? toovey has the much better record as a 1st grade coach

Anything from manly will likely be cancerous.