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Non Footy Chat Thread II

Gronk

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Don't be winging about Dr Gurrumul FFS.

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Gronk

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One-third of merkins parents were born overseas. Time to change the constitution and stop this rubbish.

 

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Yeah agreed. It's a bit of a joke really.

That being said it's also a bit of a joke that these merkins, knowing the rules, didn't check.
 

Gronk

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Yeah agreed. It's a bit of a joke really.

That being said it's also a bit of a joke that these merkins, knowing the rules, didn't check.

No. It means one third of merkins have mixed loyalties. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

Loyalties ? A woman who was born in Canada. Came here when she was 0. Never been there. Can't be a Senator bc the Constitution alleges that she has conflicting allegiances.

Computer says no.
 

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Loyalties ? A woman who was born in Canada. Came here when she was 0. Never been there. Can't be a Senator bc the Constitution alleges that she has conflicting allegiances.

Computer says no.
That's one woman. If you knew the statistics for trusted insider security breaches, the overwhelming majority have family links overseas. Obviously the fourth generation bogan could also be disloyal (or just have nowhere else to go) but exceptions are irrelevant. Policy needs to be applied broadly.
 

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That's one woman. If you knew the statistics for trusted insider security breaches, the overwhelming majority have family links overseas.

And they would have those links whether or not the got a piece of paper saying they renounced their citizenship, so it's really not relevant.
 

Poupou Escobar

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And they would have those links whether or not the got a piece of paper saying they renounced their citizenship, so it's really not relevant.
Renouncing your citizenship is a significant step in committing to a place, rather than hoping to stay some kind of ephemeral 'citizen of the world'. You want to be deep state? Get off the fence.
 

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Renouncing your citizenship is a significant step in committing to a place, rather than hoping to stay some kind of ephemeral 'citizen of the world'. You want to be deep state? Get off the fence.

And yet it still doesn't cut family ties, so why are family ties relevant? Renouncing your citizenship does precisely nothing to cut family ties. So if you're worried about people passing on sensitive information to a nation with which they have family ties, renouncing of citizenship does precisely nothing to prevent that.
 

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Pfft renouncing citizenship from a birth country means zip. I now a guy who got a paper divorce bc is was better for them tax wise. He's still sleeping next to the same person. She just happens to be his ex wife.
 

Poupou Escobar

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And yet it still doesn't cut family ties, so why are family ties relevant? Renouncing your citizenship does precisely nothing to cut family ties. So if you're worried about people passing on sensitive information to a nation with which they have family ties, renouncing of citizenship does precisely nothing to prevent that.
Once again, I think you're talking about individuals. This is about generalities. You'll never eliminate all the trusted insiders. But you can at least weed out the ones with casual loyalty.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Pfft renouncing citizenship from a birth country means zip. I now a guy who got a paper divorce bc is was better for them tax wise. He's still sleeping next to the same person. She just happens to be his ex wife.
There's that one person again.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Different person ffs.
Well when there's enough of them costing the government significant tax revenue maybe the laws will change. Until then he's just one person.

When the Australian government is sufficiently penetrated by agents of China maybe dual Chinese-Australians citizens will be able to run for PM. Maybe it will be a requirement.
 

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Pfft renouncing citizenship from a birth country means zip. I now a guy who got a paper divorce bc is was better for them tax wise. He's still sleeping next to the same person. She just happens to be his ex wife.

What is the tax benefit of being single compared to being married?
 

Poupou Escobar

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Unfortunately for you we still live in an era of competing sovereign governments, and those governments are well aware that some citizens are more loyal to somewhere else.
 

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