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Perth Red

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Granted. However I spoke to the editor of the main paper in London about the lack of press coverage in his paper in a rugby league world cup staged in England in the 1990s. His answer was "That's a northern game". True but I'm pretty sure the northern press cover union and soccer in the North?!. Especially if it was a world cup! That's were the subtle differences of bias come into it.

I can tell you the hull daily mail does not cover rugby union lol
the Guardian and Express have a lot more league coverage than years gone by. But the media is southern biased and rl is a northern game at end of day. The failure of the London broncos, despite unions help!, was a big blow for leagues exposure in uk.
 

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Granted. However I spoke to the editor of the main paper in London about the lack of press coverage in his paper in a rugby league world cup staged in England in the 1990s. His answer was "That's a northern game". True but I'm pretty sure the northern press cover union and soccer in the North?!. Especially if it was a world cup! That's were the subtle differences of bias come into it.
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That’s because they have no been so hyped that they are events rather than RL games and therefore transcend normal sports Interest. Plenty of positives in it but I wish eng v Australia or the RLWC was in fact the events that the whole country were interested in. As said soo is the pinnacle of the sport in this country and reflects the very parochial and small spread of the game in Australia.

It seems RL is for ever destined to be a great sport shackled by its inability to grow. Consider that in over one hundred years the sport has been unable to expand substantially at a professional level beyond its traditional small geographies in 2 states of Australia, one e city in nz, M62 corridor in uk and a small enclave in the south of France.
Classic troll pony boy. Could almost have been inked by the RFU.
 
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Or more likely it's because London has multiple top flight Soccer and Union teams and the London Broncos aren't even in the top flight comp. I worked for a newspaper for years, you run stories for the majority of readers, a division two team in a minor sport isn't getting coverage against Chelsea, Arsenal or West Ham.
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So how is union stopping nrl expansion?

Amazing question.There are fundamental things that don't appear to the unassuming eye that are apparent if you care to look! When you have control of the elite private school system and exclude rugby league and still allow other codes to be played (one of them targeting RL juniors relentlessly )amongst the much glorified union games, it's pretty obvious a bias against the code of rugby league occurs in the upper echelons of government and the corporate world. It's only that rugby league is such a supreme product that it gains funding. Nothing to do with any "friends in high places". This scenario in itself creates a tough road for rugby league in various avenues of society. For instance, can you honestly think that the recent rugby league world cup was well run? Absolutely not. Even the final clashed with a day night cricket test (rugby union people are high up in cricket these days) on international television! If you look their will be signs of "convenient " negative outcomes for rugby league courtesy of well thought out manouverings of rugby union's "friends in high places" . If you can't figure these things out on top of rugby league still not being accepted as a sport!?Then you are absolutely ignorant!
 
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I can tell you the hull daily mail does not cover rugby union lol
the Guardian and Express have a lot more league coverage than years gone by. But the media is southern biased and rl is a northern game at end of day. The failure of the London broncos, despite unions help!, was a big blow for leagues exposure in uk.

You are conned easily! Perception is part of the union game against rugby league.
 

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Amazing question.There are fundamental things that don't appear to the unassuming apparent if you care to look! When you have control of the elite private school system and exclude rugby league and still allow other votes to played amongst the much glorified union games, it's pretty obvious a bias against the code of rugby league occurs in the upper echelons of government and the corporate world. It's only that rugby league is such a supreme product that it gainshould funding. Nothing to do with any "friends on high places". This is in itself creates a tough scenario for rugby league in various avenues of society. For instance, can you honestly think that the recent rugby league world cup was well run? Absolutely not. Even the final clashed with a day night cricket test (rugby union people are high up in cricket) on international television! If you look their will be signs of "convenient " negative outcomes for rugby league courtesy of well thought out manouverings of rugby union's "friends in high places" . If you can't finure these things out on top of rugby league still not being accepted as a sport!?Then you are absolutely ignoranth.
Wonderfully put! The marketing people are on the side of union too! For example i was talking to the editor of the Degrassi Grapevine and she told me that Pontius Pilate killed Jesus because he played league! No wonder the bears are imploding!
 

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Amazing question.There are fundamental things that don't appear to the unassuming eye that are apparent if you care to look! When you have control of the elite private school system and exclude rugby league and still allow other codes to be played (one of them targeting RL juniors relentlessly )amongst the much glorified union games, it's pretty obvious a bias against the code of rugby league occurs in the upper echelons of government and the corporate world. It's only that rugby league is such a supreme product that it gains funding. Nothing to do with any "friends in high places". This scenario in itself creates a tough road for rugby league in various avenues of society. For instance, can you honestly think that the recent rugby league world cup was well run? Absolutely not. Even the final clashed with a day night cricket test (rugby union people are high up in cricket these days) on international television! If you look their will be signs of "convenient " negative outcomes for rugby league courtesy of well thought out manouverings of rugby union's "friends in high places" . If you can't figure these things out on top of rugby league still not being accepted as a sport!?Then you are absolutely ignorant!

So how come union is so faked in this country? You really need to take the tin foil hat off! None of what you have posted gives any explanation as to nrl’s lack of initiative and action in growing the top tier! You might have missed it but western force just got culled, friends in high places didn’t help them did it? The WA Govt has given the nrl millions to bring games west, friends in high places?
 

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To get back on topic, Ben Ikin laying into the commision last week

Rugby League’s newest superhero has been hard at work this week putting a toothy grin on everything from strategic plans to salary cap cheating.

His name is Pistol Pete and his power is shooting shiny bullets that hit nothing but subtly distort everything.

“The game must expand or die.” Bang.

“The game has never spent more money on grassroots.” Boom.

“No one likes cheats in Australia that’s why we enforce standards.” Blast.

“What’s happening in cricket is a stark contrast to rugby league.” Huh?

These have been just a few of the grandiose statements made by Australian Rugby League Commission chairman Peter Beattie since he took control of the NRL in February.

Despite some of these hollow logs Pistol Pete has rolled out I remain hopeful he’ll be smart enough to surround himself with clever people who can fill the gaps … by golly we need it. Rugby league in Australia is in quite the precarious position.

After five years and a billion dollars the NRL has nothing to show for its labour. All the money that has come in has gone straight back out. The bulk of the revenue I speak of comes from television broadcasters who themselves are facing an uncertain future.

Global trends suggest that a market correction could be coming the way of professional sport.

The English Premier League recently signed off on their latest broadcast rights deal, and for the first time in a long time, saw no increase. Rugby league should expect worse, or at least plan for it.

This bleak commercial reality means the game’s two and a half-billion dollars worth of revenue over the next five years must produce a few golden eggs.

Pistol Pete’s offsider, a spritely fellow named Teflon Todd, has been given the very difficult job of doing the laying.

This doesn’t mean Peter Beattie thinks Todd Greenberg is a goose, quite the contrary. “We will stick with Todd when he makes the tough decisions.” KAPOW.

Pistol can be as supportive as he wants; the truth is that Teflon has been left with minimal money to invest. The Superhero and his sidekick are running a business that will almost fully distribute its earnings to stakeholders.

The NRL clubs, players and state leagues get most of the cash, and not necessarily in the right order or amounts, but that’s an article for another day.

The money that doesn’t go out of head office is used to run the game and invest in this fancy thing called digital. Pistol and Teflon have embarked on a mission to build a competitor of sorts to the broadcasters who currently pay them billions of dollars.

Risky yes, clever maybe, either way the business case for “NRL Digital’’ would be compelling reading … if it exists. One hundred and fifty million dollars will be thrown at this very strategic play in the hope it becomes an income-generating asset.

Teflon’s last big spend was on the bunker and you can make up your own mind on what that generated.

This week the Australian Rugby League Commission released its five-year strategic plan. On the surface it appears to address most of the challenges the game faces. Participation in traditional demographics and formats is declining.

Stadiums in Sydney are poor, as is their connectedness to the city. Expansion is a necessity but currently an unaffordable option. And it’s the second part of that last statement which deeply concerns me. It takes real money to engage in strategic activity, money the game seemingly doesn’t have.

When you consider over the last five years the NRL did have money to invest, yet still owns nothing, and ended up having to borrow to pay its bills, we have a right to be concerned.

Rugby league stakeholders have been fed a misleading commentary from head office on the supposed bright future of our game for too long.

Assuming this “new commission” has familiarised themselves with game as it exists at the coalface, they should now get to work delivering solutions to rugby league’s biggest problems.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sp...d/news-story/e3e39f15531a1a621f81cc1941af738c
 

Stallion

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So how come union is so faked in this country? You really need to take the tin foil hat off! None of what you have posted gives any explanation as to nrl’s lack of initiative and action in growing the top tier! You might have missed it but western force just got culled, friends in high places didn’t help them did it? The WA Govt has given the nrl millions to bring games west, friends in high places?

You dummy.Rugby league was openly accepted by the Catholic school system in the early year/stages. This has been the cornerstone of the codes success in Australua It was treated as an equal to all other sports and subsequently proved the most popular in NSW and Qld. It was given a fair go! A very Australian concept I suggest!
 
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ReddFelon

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Working the shredder?
Must be a sad life being intimidated by intelligence, some of us actually finished school. *Shrug*


Loving the union conspiracy still going strong though, the ARU have been borderline bankrupt for a decade plus, not sure where they got all this extra funding to impact the likes of Gallop and Grant.
 

titoelcolombiano

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There must be lads in Perth who want to play a physical game. And there are stacks of rugby players in NZ that would love to play professional RL. Whatever the national rugby comp is (below Super 12s) you could pilfer.

Actually mate, you are right. The Warriors under 20's converted many promising RU juniors to league because the games were televised and gave them better exposure. RTS was amongst them. Not saying league is any where union level in NZ but I think a second team would help player numbers.
 

titoelcolombiano

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That’s because they have no been so hyped that they are events rather than RL games and therefore transcend normal sports Interest. Plenty of positives in it but I wish eng v Australia or the RLWC was in fact the events that the whole country were interested in. As said soo is the pinnacle of the sport in this country and reflects the very parochial and small spread of the game in Australia.

It seems RL is for ever destined to be a great sport shackled by its inability to grow. Consider that in over one hundred years the sport has been unable to expand substantially at a professional level beyond its traditional small geographies in 2 states of Australia, one e city in nz, M62 corridor in uk and a small enclave in the south of France.

I can't really say that the AFL have either. Outside of their heartlands they have:

GWS - no one cares

Lions - basket case, no one cares

Suns - no one cares when they aren't playing well and very limited upside when they are

Swans - good core fan base of 35k but woeful TV ratings after 36 years. Storm will swamp their level after 36 years in the NRL at their current trajectory.

The one thing they have done at least is put teams out there which until we go to Adelaide and Perth we've failed to do. We do have a nice niche in Auckland though that they do not have.

The only real big asset that they have over us is Melbourne's attendance and membership culture over Sydney's.
 

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Must be a sad life being intimidated by intelligence, some of us actually finished school. *Shrug*


Loving the union conspiracy still going strong though, the ARU have been borderline bankrupt for a decade plus, not sure where they got all this extra funding to impact the likes of Gallop and Grant.

It's not just the ARU involved on this reality buddy! It's absolutely an international size repression at play.
 

titoelcolombiano

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At the top tier level they are impotent. They do not have the money or influence to stop the nrl expanding. The nrl’s inability to grow the game at the top tier is all on the commision and ceo’s and nothing to do with union.

The failure of london and welsh clubs in SL had nothing to do with the RFU, PSG’s failure wasn’t due to the french RU, The fact the nrl do t have teams in Wellington or Sth island of nz isn’t the all blacks doing,
Briabane2’s lack of existence has nothing to do with the Q’land Reds, no perth team has nothing to do with the waru, the lack of Interest in the kangaroos is not caused by the aru etc etc

Agreed, our growth, or lack of, is on us. It is just victim mentality to suggest otherwise.
 

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I can't really say that the AFL have either. Outside of their heartlands they have:

GWS - no one cares

Lions - basket case, no one cares

Suns - no one cares when they aren't playing well and very limited upside when they are

Swans - good core fan base of 35k but woeful TV ratings after 36 years. Storm will swamp their level after 36 years in the NRL at their current trajectory.

The one thing they have done at least is put teams out there which until we go to Adelaide and Perth we've failed to do. We do have a nice niche in Auckland though that they do not have.

The only real big asset that they have over us is Melbourne's attendance and membership culture over Sydney's.

That culture you speak emanates from total acceptance/presence in all schools of that state. Private and public! Significantly not so for rugby league in NSW & QLD. That's where the difference in culture is nurtured then capitalized on later by the ' training run'.
 
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