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The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

Timmah

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And they've contracted the same company that built it 30 years ago to build a new one.
For clarity, I think you mean the same architect to design it?

Or did LendLease build it back in the 80s too?
 

unforgiven

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They've got plenty of bad smell of their own. Oppositions don't win elections, Governments lose them.


And they've contracted the same company that built it 30 years ago to build a new one.
That is the best point you have made on this subject, it doesn't change the fact a rebuild needs to happen.
 
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They've got plenty of bad smell of their own. Oppositions don't win elections, Governments lose them.


And they've contracted the same company that built it 30 years ago to build a new one.

Same architectural firm, but not the same architect. Phillip Cox has retired.

They did the new Optus stadium in Perth which is excellent, also doing the Townsville stadium.
 
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For clarity, I think you mean the same architect to design it?

Or did LendLease build it back in the 80s too?

I think he means architect, but it’s his firm not actually the same guy.

Plus the architect works within a framework & budget, the budget in particular was very limited back in the 1980’s.
 
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For clarity, I think you mean the same architect to design it?

Or did LendLease build it back in the 80s too?

This info might help you -

"The Stadium opened on 24th January 1988 to celebrate Australia’s Bicentenary. It is of State heritage significance as an excellent example of a Late Twentieth Century Structuralist style public building. It is an important building in the career of the prominent Australian architect Philip Cox who played a significant role in Australia’s cultural history. The Stadium is critically acclaimed nationally and internationally by the architectural and engineering professions as a significant example of Twentieth Century architecture demonstrating a high level of creativity in its concept, and a high level of integrity in the execution of the original design concept.

The Sydney Football Stadium was designed in 1985 by the notable architectural firm, Philip Cox Richardson Taylor and Partners Pty Ltd. It is one of a suite of outstanding Cox buildings built in Sydney and is part of the enduring image of the celebratory function of the Bicentennial. In 1988 the firm produced five major steel structures in close collaboration with internationally renowned engineers Ove Arup and Partners. Three were sited at Darling Harbour, Sydney’s major Bicentennial project.

The Sydney Football Stadium is acknowledged as an aesthetically distinctive design and was a significant technical innovation; after 1988 the Cox practice’s ‘white stadia expressionism’ was adopted globally by other architects and influenced the design of international sports and exhibition facilities.

It has been recognised as an important contributor to world and Australian architecture in numerous publications and the award of the 1988 Building and Civil Design Award, Institute of Engineers and as a Finalist World Quaternario Award.

The Sydney Cricket Ground and the Sydney Football Stadium are in the vicinity of a range of heritage items, notably the Fox Studios (former Sydney Showground) and Centennial Park. The Sydney Football Stadium is one of a suite of related structures in the SCG representing two of the nation’s favourite pastimes football and cricket and sport generally.

The Sydney Football Stadium has strong associations with some of the country’s most prominent sports people and holds undoubted social value in the wider community. It is technically expressive, rejoicing in the bravado of both sporting and structural exploits.

The Sydney Football Stadium was the result of a Design and Construct Competition in August 1985 to replace the antiquated Sydney Sports Ground, which was won by the firm Civil & Civic. The design team was Philip Cox Richardson Taylor & Partners as architects and Ove Arup & Partners as structural and civil engineers. The building was then situated adjacent to Sydney’s two largest arenas – the Sydney Cricket Ground and the Royal Agricultural Society Showground.

Construction commenced on site in April 1986 after only a 4-month period for detailed design, and the stadium was completed on time and within budget for its opening in January 1988."

Source: https://www.nationaltrust.org.au/initiatives/sydney-football-stadium/
 

taipan

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Sounds like the joint should be considered for a heritage listing rather than a bulldozer

Judging by the lack of cover even for the best seats, ordinary toilet facilities for females,the place should be demolished.And the bulldozer considered a national treasure.
 

El Diablo

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https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw...-demolition-consultation-20190207-p50w7n.html

Sydney mayors criticise 'farcical' stadium demolition consultation

Megan Gorrey
February 7, 2019 — 6.00pm

The mayors of three Sydney councils have seized on a "farcical" community consultation process to launch a fresh attack on plans to raze Allianz Stadium, weeks before hard demolition works begin.

City of Sydney lord mayor Clover Moore, Waverley mayor John Wakefield and Randwick mayor Kathy Nielson claim the government breached its own guidelines for the project's community consultative committee, which is set to meet on Thursday night.

The mayors wrote to Planning Minister Anthony Roberts, demanding the crucial meeting be delayed until their "serious concerns" with the community meeting process have been addressed.

But a spokesman for Mr Roberts said on Thursday afternoon that the committee had been set up "fully in accordance with the [Planning Department's] guidelines" and the meeting would go ahead.

The mayors' complaints coincide with a looming legal challenge against the demolition, which threatens to cause a political headache for the Berejiklian government before the election.

The committee is made up of local representatives and is one of the final conditions of consent that needs to be satisfied for work to start on the structural demolition of the stadium in late February.

Cr Wakefield said committee members had not been provided with important environmental and management plans for the project early on, or been given enough detail about noise control strategies for a concrete crusher that will be used in the demolition.

"The consultative committee ... was formed with only two weeks' notice, no documents, no materials supplied and with a bar on our technological experts and advisers being in attendance," Mr Wakefield said.

"We believe it has been improperly formed with insufficient notification and with conditions that hamstring us, as representatives of the community, to participate properly in the process."

Cr Moore said the government was "not respecting their own conditions and guidelines" for the meeting and "the whole thing is quite disgraceful and farcical".

Cr Moore said the demolition should be delayed until after next month's election.

Cr Neilson said: "All the residents of NSW need to be sure that all the processes are being agreed to and followed absolutely correctly and appropriately and at the moment we don't have that."

Mr Roberts' spokesman said the department was "confident that all relevant conditions had been met". The concrete crusher would not be used in the first stage of the demolition, so the plans for its use "are not yet required", the spokesman said.

The mayors also said there was a conflict of interest in the government's pick for the committee's chair, Margaret Harvie, whose company had worked for the project's developer Lendlease.

"The guideline does not provide a mechanism to assess and manage conflicts of interest," their letter said.

"For this reason, and because conflict is clear, we do not think it is appropriate for the incumbent to remain the chairperson. The position, in our view, is untenable."

Mr Roberts' spokesman said Ms Harvie's "significant experience and expertise in community engagement" made her "an eminently suitable independent chair", and there was no conflict of interest.

The NSW Land and Environment Court's this week agreed to expedite the case brought by community group Local Democracy Matters in its bid to halt the stadium knock-down.

Waverley Council is considering joining the legal action, while the City of Sydney and Randwick councils have ruled it out.
 

Timmah

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Sorry I thought I read the same building firm but maybe I'm mistaken.
Same parent company - LendLease have won the contract this time - Civil & Civic built the original, and were owned by LendLease Group
 

morley101

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https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw...-demolition-consultation-20190207-p50w7n.html

Sydney mayors criticise 'farcical' stadium demolition consultation

Megan Gorrey
February 7, 2019 — 6.00pm

The mayors of three Sydney councils have seized on a "farcical" community consultation process to launch a fresh attack on plans to raze Allianz Stadium, weeks before hard demolition works begin.

City of Sydney lord mayor Clover Moore, Waverley mayor John Wakefield and Randwick mayor Kathy Nielson claim the government breached its own guidelines for the project's community consultative committee, which is set to meet on Thursday night.

The mayors wrote to Planning Minister Anthony Roberts, demanding the crucial meeting be delayed until their "serious concerns" with the community meeting process have been addressed.

But a spokesman for Mr Roberts said on Thursday afternoon that the committee had been set up "fully in accordance with the [Planning Department's] guidelines" and the meeting would go ahead.

The mayors' complaints coincide with a looming legal challenge against the demolition, which threatens to cause a political headache for the Berejiklian government before the election.

The committee is made up of local representatives and is one of the final conditions of consent that needs to be satisfied for work to start on the structural demolition of the stadium in late February.

Cr Wakefield said committee members had not been provided with important environmental and management plans for the project early on, or been given enough detail about noise control strategies for a concrete crusher that will be used in the demolition.

"The consultative committee ... was formed with only two weeks' notice, no documents, no materials supplied and with a bar on our technological experts and advisers being in attendance," Mr Wakefield said.

"We believe it has been improperly formed with insufficient notification and with conditions that hamstring us, as representatives of the community, to participate properly in the process."

Cr Moore said the government was "not respecting their own conditions and guidelines" for the meeting and "the whole thing is quite disgraceful and farcical".

Cr Moore said the demolition should be delayed until after next month's election.

Cr Neilson said: "All the residents of NSW need to be sure that all the processes are being agreed to and followed absolutely correctly and appropriately and at the moment we don't have that."

Mr Roberts' spokesman said the department was "confident that all relevant conditions had been met". The concrete crusher would not be used in the first stage of the demolition, so the plans for its use "are not yet required", the spokesman said.

The mayors also said there was a conflict of interest in the government's pick for the committee's chair, Margaret Harvie, whose company had worked for the project's developer Lendlease.

"The guideline does not provide a mechanism to assess and manage conflicts of interest," their letter said.

"For this reason, and because conflict is clear, we do not think it is appropriate for the incumbent to remain the chairperson. The position, in our view, is untenable."

Mr Roberts' spokesman said Ms Harvie's "significant experience and expertise in community engagement" made her "an eminently suitable independent chair", and there was no conflict of interest.

The NSW Land and Environment Court's this week agreed to expedite the case brought by community group Local Democracy Matters in its bid to halt the stadium knock-down.

Waverley Council is considering joining the legal action, while the City of Sydney and Randwick councils have ruled it out.
If you listen these mayors you might build a shitty light rail system.... ohh hang on..Or maybe a $22 millions "cloud Arch".
 

T-Boon

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City of Sydney lord mayor Clover Moore, Waverley mayor John Wakefield and Randwick mayor Kathy Nielson claim the government breached its own guidelines for the project's community consultative committee, which is set to meet on Thursday night.

If Australia secures the womens soccer world cup and Sydney doesnt not get to host any games and the girls of Sydney do not get to enjoy the show because our stadiums are not up to scratch these anti women crusaders should be publicly shamed.
 

TheFrog

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If Australia secures the womens soccer world cup and Sydney doesnt not get to host any games and the girls of Sydney do not get to enjoy the show because our stadiums are not up to scratch these anti women crusaders should be publicly shamed.
What's wrong with Parramatta, you know the one that isn't finished yet?
 
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Cause in Australia, we really need 40,000, 60,000 or 80,000 stadium to host Ghana vs Peru in women's football/soccer.

Don't even need it for men's either.

I think as the cricket and RL WC's showed, take them to smaller cities with smaller grounds and get some atmosphere.
 

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