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Avenger

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Voter fraud happens occasionally but never enough to affect an election result.

If the Democratic Party were so good at producing 10,000’s of fraudulent voters as suggested why wouldn’t they do it to ensure they won the senate majority (almost as important as the president result), or in other states so the result didn’t come down to the wirer.
I reckon you’re bang on here.
 

hindy111

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Trump had it won.

So the very suss happend and in blink of an eye Biden had it won. I dont buy it.
But I also do not care. Bidens the new president.
 

Poupou Escobar

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People voting more than once, anonymous voting, people’s votes being taken by other people, dead people voting, evidence of people’s votes being backdated and deemed eligible, people being paid to vote.
No, I understand how voter fraud might manifest. My question is about how it might be detected and communicated to the public.
 

Happy MEel

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It seems all of the conspiracy theories seem to be coming from republicans (or those supporting them) pointing at the democrats. If there was potential for voter fraud in this election (which I can’t see happening to the extent to sway the election) I can’t accept that the slimy merkins on the Republican side wouldn’t be in on it as well.

Do those claiming conspiracy seriously think the reds are so virtuous and the blues are so corrupt?

They’re both as shitty as the other, but one side clearly have sour grapes.
 

Poupou Escobar

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On that video, google project veritas, make your own mind up as to their reliability.
It doesn't get much more reliable than video evidence. It isn't perfect but it's a damn sight more reliable than a parade of talking heads telling us what happened and what it means, without ever showing us.
 

Happy MEel

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Trump had it won.

So the very suss happend and in blink of an eye Biden had it won. I dont buy it.
But I also do not care. Bidens the new president.
We’ve already provided reasonable rational why the majority of postal votes were likely to be for the Democrats. If you choose to ignore that then perhaps it’s your own prejudice that is coming to the fore.
 

Happy MEel

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It doesn't get much more reliable than video evidence. It isn't perfect but it's a damn sight more reliable than a parade of talking heads telling us what happened and what it means, without ever showing us.
Have they released the metadata behind that video?

genuine question as I don’t know.
 

Poupou Escobar

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It seems all of the conspiracy theories seem to be coming from republicans (or those supporting them) pointing at the democrats. If there was potential for voter fraud in this election (which I can’t see happening to the extent to sway the election) I can’t accept that the slimy merkins on the Republican side wouldn’t be in on it as well.

Do those claiming conspiracy seriously think the reds are so virtuous and the blues are so corrupt?

They’re both as shitty as the other, but one side clearly have sour grapes.
The Democrats are overwhelmingly represented by the bureaucratic class. The type of people who run elections and work in government.
 

Happy MEel

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The Democrats are overwhelmingly represented by the bureaucratic class. The type of people who run elections and work in government.
That’s a very long bow to draw. I could also stereotype Republicans and say they are dumb as dog shit and easily influenced to take action to question the electoral process.

Both ridiculous conspiracy theories that have a similar likelihood of being reality to the extent of influencing the election.
 
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Joshuatheeel

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Trump had it won.

So the very suss happend and in blink of an eye Biden had it won. I dont buy it.
But I also do not care. Bidens the new president.

democratic’s were leading Texas / Ohio too..... then in the blink of an the results switched........ because they counted the votes the opposite way.......
 

Poupou Escobar

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That’s a very long bow to draw. I could also stereotype Republicans and say they are dumb as dog shit and easily influenced to take action to question the electoral process.
I think there is truth behind every stereotype. So while most bureaucrats would vote Democrat, most ignorant rural dwellers would vote Republican. Are you pretending there is no merit to the stereotypes? They don't come from nowhere. I absolutely think your stereotype about Republican voters being less informed is on the money. Are you really trying to 'both sides' this? As though the types of people who become bureaucrats or rednecks are equally likely to vote for either US party?
Both ridiculous conspiracy theories that have a similar likelihood of being reality to the extent of influencing the election.
It's no conspiracy. All the data points to Democrat and Republican voters skewing along several very distinct lines. I'm sure some bureaucrats vote Republican but I'm equally sure the numbers are significantly fewer than for Democrats. Likewise there would be plenty of dopey welfare parasites living in cities who vote blue, but these would represent a significantly smaller portion of Dem voters than their rural 'cousins' would for the Republicans.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Same as Arizona right now. But that doesn’t play into the Republican ‘woe is me’ narrative.
The problem is postal votes. They lack the transparency of in-person voting. To have so many as a proportion of the final tally is just asking for the election's legitimacy to be called into question. Trump raised it before the election and he raised it again when he had a huge lead.
 

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