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Obscene Assassin

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Penisini is a talent, for sure - but his defence is worse than Blake's, tbh.

I'm not sure where this argument is coming from. The only time I've seen Penisini get absolutely destroyed defensively was against Joey Leilua, who is arguably one of the best attacking centres in the game when he wants to be. In all the other games he's handled himself well. He's not great defensively but if you'd never seen him play and only read comments on here you'd think he's an absolute passenger in defence.
 

crocodile

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He's got time to learn though. Very few young centres are great in defense. Brett Mullins was awful in defense at centre for some time, but he learnt.
Plenty of other high profile centres weren't great defenders too. Mark Gasnier comes to mind. He really only improved after his stint with French Rugby.
 
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Glenneel

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Nobody ever said we have the best team. I don't know why you're freaking out after our second loss of the season. There will be more of them and we don't need to blame anyone. Sometimes the opposition is just too good.
Its not the loss but the manner of the loss that worries me. How we were completely outplayed in nearly every aspect of the game and how easily they pulled our defence apart even when they were down a man. How we were completely unable to create space when they were down a player. If none of that worries you then you must be one of BA's assistants.
 

Glenneel

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Serious question @Glenneel . What centre in the comp is has élite speed and is also excellent defensively? I can't really think of anyone that is both. Maybe Lomax? (who you did say we should look at 2 years ago and I thought he was shit) And I'm not saying that Waqa isn't annoying the shit out of me.
What gives you the impression that I'm a recruitment officer with Parra? All I'm pointing out is where I think our problem is, same as I pointed out a few years back that we needed bigger quality forwards. Eventually BA went in that direction so now I point out other deficiencies. Maybe it takes a few years before BA listens to me.
 

Gronk

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Its not the loss but the manner of the loss that worries me. How we were completely outplayed in nearly every aspect of the game and how easily they pulled our defence apart even when they were down a man. How we were completely unable to create space when they were down a player. If none of that worries you then you must be one of BA's assistants.

How was the manner of loss for the Bunnies v Storm, Penrith and the matter of win vs Sharks ? Yet everyone has short memories and are expecting them to do a number on us.
 
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Its not the loss but the manner of the loss that worries me. How we were completely outplayed in nearly every aspect of the game and how easily they pulled our defence apart even when they were down a man. How we were completely unable to create space when they were down a player. If none of that worries you then you must be one of BA's assistants.

Or maybe we didn't play at anything like our best in this game? It happens.
 

hindy111

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I'm not sure where this argument is coming from. The only time I've seen Penisini get absolutely destroyed defensively was against Joey Leilua, who is arguably one of the best attacking centres in the game when he wants to be. In all the other games he's handled himself well. He's not great defensively but if you'd never seen him play and only read comments on here you'd think he's an absolute passenger in defence.

This is game I saw and I noticed how bad he was. But also keep in mind in NRL the defense either side of him is far better. Also add to the fact it was early in the season and these guys barely played rugby league last year so what was it his first few games after almost 18mths of no regular footy.
Give him 12mths and he will develop well.
 

TheRam

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can duffty play centre he's on the outer at st George has plenty of speed

No way he could. He can barely play fullback when the team is without the ball. There are two sides to the game.

Besides I heard that the Dragons are not getting rid of him due to his poor football ability, but for other off field reasons.
 
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TheRam

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In 2021 this bit in parentheses is discriminatory against lesbians and anyone else who doesn't engage in penis-to-vagina/anus penetrative sex.

So what? We all discriminate in many different ways, without ill intent and in context, to non triggered brain washed idiots, it is not offensive. That statement is not meant to be offensive, but something that we all understand to be the most common interpretation of what full sex means between a man and a woman, which is what is being discussed here.

So take that "I choose to be outraged" sh*t elsewhere and stop being a Gronk.
 

TheRam

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I hear we are not looking at any players with any $$ profile. Penisini is the next cab off the rank, apparently.

I hope that someone like X. Savage would be cheap enough and willing to take a punt and see the very real NRL opportunity that a well run club and quality team like the Eels could give him.

Besides if I had a choice between being coached by Sticky or BA, I would choose BA every time. Much more balanced human being. Anyway our club isn't a sh*t show like theirs is at the moment.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Its not the loss but the manner of the loss that worries me. How we were completely outplayed in nearly every aspect of the game and how easily they pulled our defence apart even when they were down a man. How we were completely unable to create space when they were down a player. If none of that worries you then you must be one of BA's assistants.
I didn't see it as us being unable, we just weren't willing to do what was required, which was grind them down over 80 minutes. A team like ours shouldn't be changing their game plan just because the opposition is down to 12 men. I'm sure Arthur's didn't tell them to.
 

Poupou Escobar

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What gives you the impression that I'm a recruitment officer with Parra? All I'm pointing out is where I think our problem is, same as I pointed out a few years back that we needed bigger quality forwards. Eventually BA went in that direction so now I point out other deficiencies. Maybe it takes a few years before BA listens to me.
Unless we can develop (and retain) a production line of cheap first graders we're always going to have deficiencies ffs merkin. Fixing squad deficiencies costs cap space, and it is a limited resource. When our existing top half dozen paid players came off contract we were able to rejig the cap and buy Paulo and RCG. We couldn't sign them without first making space in the cap. That can take multiple years. Guys like Matagi and Alvaro would've been on a quarter of what their replacements are getting.
 

Poupou Escobar

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So what? We all discriminate in many different ways, without ill intent and in context, to non triggered brain washed idiots, it is not offensive. That statement is not meant to be offensive, but something that we all understand to be the most common interpretation of what full sex means between a man and a woman, which is what is being discussed here.

So take that "I choose to be outraged" sh*t elsewhere and stop being a Gronk.
What it means is that, socially (and therefore legally), even fingering someone is considered having sex. Therefore doing it without consent isn't being a mere sex pest, it is rape.
 

Soren Lorenson

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No way he could. He can barely play fullback when the team is without the ball. There are two sides to the game.

Besides I heard that the Dragons are not getting rid of him due to his poor football ability, but for other off field reasons.
On the DT podcast yesterday, Buzz (so take it however you want), stated he thought he was a poor learner when it came to off the ball stuff that a fullback needs to do, and they will be putting their eggs into Cody Ramsey's basket. And since he can't really play any other position, he's gone.
 

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