Rd16: Eels v Rabbits GAME DAY THREAD @ Accor Stadium 2/7/22

[IFR33K]

Do you honestly think we are a top 4 team?

The roster is fine. Stop shifting the blame off the coach onto the players.

 

[TheRam]

We are talking about squads, irrespective of injuries .... dont be an apologist for the brave roosters ffs

Apologist my arse. They just aren't the team people think they are. They need a bit of a rebuild to take out a premiership again. Currently a bottom of the 8 team at best.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

I looked at it a while back and my recollection is that we were approx. $13 and 5th behind Panthers, Storm, Roosters and Manly.

So more likely than most teams. Not being the favourite doesn't mean we're no chance.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

I loaded up.

It's still a reasonable price. A little bit unders.

 

[emjaycee]

Plenty experts in the media had us breaking our drought.

Well then those same experts must have thought BA could take us to a premiership despite his failure in 8 seasons to get to week 3 of the finals and his inability to explain our mid-season slump in 2021.

 

[Gary Gutful]

So more likely than most teams. Not being the favourite doesn't mean we're no chance.

Yep. Thats how odds work. Even the Tigers at $501 cant strictly be considered "no chance".

 

[Gary Gutful]

It's still a reasonable price. A little bit unders.

I didn't actually load up. I'm not f**ken stupid.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Way off the top sides, i'd argue the top 4 is just about gone. And if you don't make the top 4 history shows you are only making up the numbers.

History showed Penrith had never beaten Souths in a grand final either merkin

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Yep. Thats how odds work. Even the Tigers at $501 cant strictly be considered "no chance".

But you countered Avenger's claim that plenty in the media thought we'd win by saying that the bookies didn't. I would say that if we're fifth favourite then plenty of bookies also thought we'd win. I also reckon if we were $13 it wouldn't have been for long.

 

[emjaycee]

The roster is fine. Stop shifting the blame off the coach onto the players.

OK. Sorry about that. I was asking a question in response to someones comment that we should be in the top 4.
I will stick to agreeing with @TheRam that we have an awesome squad shall I?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Brian Smith made 4 GF's from 3 different clubs, he was good enough to get a gig with the almighty Roosters a club you put on this pedestal.


Cronin and Hilditch were relics from a different time, fitzy even admitted he wasn't spending all he could on the football club and team while he built up the leagues clubs and assets. None of which seems to spend a cent in the team at all anymore. I ask again by bother??? They are just wasting everyones time.

No they’re not. We’re a chance to win every game we’re in

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

I didn't actually load up. I'm not f**ken stupid.

I didn't think you did. But it would have been a good bet.

 

[emjaycee]

But you countered Avenger's claim that plenty in the media thought we'd win by saying that the bookies didn't. I would say that if we're fifth favourite then plenty of bookies also thought we'd win. I also reckon if we were $13 it wouldn't have been for long.

Wouldnt being 5th favourite just mean they thought there were 4 teams with a better chance than us of winning, not that any of them actually thought we could win it?

 

[IFR33K]

OK. Sorry about that. I was asking a question in response to someones comment that we should be in the top 4.
I will stick to agreeing with @TheRam that we have an awesome squad shall I?

It’s def one of the better squads in the nrl. We’ve beaten Penrith and melb and have several origin players as well as having a fair few finals games under our belts.

so what’s stopping the team progressing?

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Wouldnt being 5th favourite just mean they thought there were 4 teams with a better chance than us of winning, not that any of them actually thought we could win it?

It's impossible to know what they thought. But we were rated the fifth most likely, in simple terms. I think the most reasonable assumption is that 'plenty' of bookies thought we could win.
In any case, pointing out that we were about fifth favourite isn't much of a counter to the claim that plenty in the media tipped us to win.

 

[emjaycee]

It’s def one of the better squads in the nrl. We’ve beaten Penrith and melb and have several origin players as well as having a fair few finals games under our belts.

so what’s stopping the team progressing?

1) Individual player attitude
2) Lack of leadership both on and off the field
3) Inability of the coach to develop a Plan B
4) Lack of attention to detail in either planning or execution of defensive patterns
5) Lack of speed in a number of key positions
6) Lack of killer instinct
7) Lack of self-belief when behind on the scoreboard by more than 12 points
8) Lack of depth in key positions resulting in overplaying spine players despite drop in form

Probably some more I can think of but is that enough for now?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

is defense is average. Makes a lot of tackles but gets pushed back 2 or 3 mtrs half the time. Small body that doesn't stop the big men quick enough which enable a fast play the ball.

This describes every hooker.

 

[Avenger]

It’s def one of the better squads in the nrl. We’ve beaten Penrith and melb and have several origin players as well as having a fair few finals games under our belts.

so what’s stopping the team progressing?

Wouldnt being 5th favourite just mean they thought there were 4 teams with a better chance than us of winning, not that any of them actually thought we could win it?

Sorry MJC, I think IFR33K has got a point here. If we can beat those top 2 teams and we can't be consistent enough to beat the lesser teams (I don't consider Souths a lesser team) then there are no excuses. It's a mental thing, and that's on the coach. He doesn't have the intellect to get them up for the games they should win.

And his tactics and bench rotations are inconsistent and f**king terrible respectively.

 

[Gary Gutful]

But you countered Avenger's claim that plenty in the media thought we'd win by saying that the bookies didn't. I would say that if we're fifth favourite then plenty of bookies also thought we'd win. I also reckon if we were $13 it wouldn't have been for long.

Penrith and the Storm were considerably shorter priced in comparison. Fair to say thats who most people thought would win.

 

[hineyrulz]

History showed Penrith had never beaten Souths in a grand final either merkin

Ok, thanks for that.