Do you want Brad Arthur as coach

[Gary Gutful]

So a 9 year coach should be under the same pressure as a coach in his 3rd year?? Atm he’s 2 from 9 and even if he jags a win and loooooooooses against the Cows it’s 3 from 11. Does that scream out premiership winning coach?? Especially one that refuses to pick the best side week after week???

I was just making a joke about how shit you are at pulling roots.

 

[hybrideel]

Our finals results after 2001

2002(6th) 0/1 lost qual(3rd)
2005(1st) 1/2 won qual(8th), lost prelim(5th)
2006(8th) 0/1 lost qual(1st)
2007(5th) 2/3 won qual(4th), won semi(6th) lost prelim(1st)
2009(8th) 3/4 won qual(1st), won semi(3rd), won prelim(2nd), lost GF(4th)
2017(4th) 0/2 lost qual(1st), lost semi(8th)
2019(6th) 1/2 won qual(8th), lost semi(1st)
2020(3rd) 0/2 lost qual(2nd), lost semi(6th)
2021(6th) 1/2 won qual(7th), lost semi(2nd)
2022(4th) 0/1 lost qual(1st)

 

[Chipmunk]

Our finals results after 2001

2002(6th) 0/1 lost qual(3rd)
2005(1st) 1/2 won qual(8th), lost prelim(5th)
2006(8th) 0/1 lost qual(1st)
2007(5th) 2/3 won qual(4th), won semi(6th) lost prelim(1st)
2009(8th) 3/4 won qual(1st), won semi(3rd), won prelim(2nd), lost GF(4th)
2017(4th) 0/2 lost qual(1st), lost semi(8th)
2019(6th) 1/2 won qual(8th), lost semi(1st)
2020(3rd) 0/2 lost qual(2nd), lost semi(6th)
2021(6th) 1/2 won qual(7th), lost semi(2nd)
2022(4th) 0/1 lost qual(1st)

I think we probably need 1997 to 2001 included.

 

[hindy111]

But they werent really big upsets on the weekend.

Sharks vs Cows was 2vs3 ... yeah it was in sydney but cowboys were given a real chance
roosters vs souths was 5 vs 6 ... roosters missing players, souths full strength - could have gone either way
Storm vs Canberra ... canberra have a good history, storm had been bashed by roosters and us in recent weeks ... plenty gave the raiders a chance

This is a close finals series .... its what everyone says, Penrith are the clear favourites, then the rest

Canberra where longer odds to win then us over the weekend. On history we beat Penrith twice this season and the last year all games where within 2 points. We got our pants pulled down this finals game

 

[Chipmunk]

If BA is Manly's target, I will be interested to see if things escalate (and encouraged from our side) quickly if we're beaten this week. Would we be interested in a swap? Outside of the two Trbo's I think we have a vastly superior squad to Manly. Would we swap Gutho for Tommy if it happened? Would we let Junior go to get Jake? I think is highly possible.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-2022-manly-coach-des-hasler-contract-saga-takes-fresh-twist/news-story/d85498434a9c844b0a86439ab44b4814

Manly vs Des Hasler battle: Coach ponders quitting unless Sea Eagles owners give him and club stability

Des Hasler is now considering a prospect that would have been unthinkable just 12 months ago — walking away as Manly head coach, effective immediately.

It would be a decision that would rock the famous NRL club to its core.

The Daily Telegraph has been told Hasler will contemplate leaving if he cannot secure stability from the club’s owners.

Other Manly football club employees are also considering their immediate futures.

Friends say Hasler is uncertain whether to coach in 2023 — the final year of his contract — if he cannot be given a new deal for 2024.

One source close to Hasler said: “The longer this goes on, the more unstable it is for the players and football management and the more untenable Des’ employment for 2023 becomes.

“You can’t have a high-performance environment without stability.”

Debate continues about what was said and offered inside a clear-the-air meeting between Hasler, his manager George Mimis, Manly CEO Tony Mestrov and club chairman Scott Penn in North Sydney last week.

Some say Hasler was offered a new one-year extension for 2024 but the club denied an offer was made.

Manly want a succession plan from Hasler but the current issues are making that request, according to sources, virtually impossible.

Hasler is genuinely torn.

He has an unbreakable bond and devotion to his players but feels he has not received that same support from management.

His preference would be to stay but remaining at Brookvale for just one year would be, as one source said, “a waste of everyone’s time”.

Manly would be left in disarray if Hasler quit the club.

Players could return from an off-season break without the club having a head coach and possibly both assistants with Chad Randall being linked to Canterbury and Michael Monaghan to Canberra and Gold Coast.

It was just a year ago that Hasler guided Manly into the NRL’s top four.

No timeline has been discussed for a decision with Manly management looking at all their options.

Despite the drama, Hasler continues to complete season reviews for all his players.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Canberra where longer odds to win then us over the weekend. On history we beat Penrith twice this season and the last year all games where within 2 points. We got our pants pulled down this finals game

Only after Moses left the field. As for Canberra’s win, was that because of them overperforming (110% effort) or Bellamy’s side choking?

 

[lucablight]

After 9 years would you be happy with beating Canberra and losing to the Cows??? It would have been a pass mark a year or two ago but not this season. Especially with the shit that the Storm and Roosters have copped. Besides Penrith i reckon the rest of the teams are very beatable. We stuck with them for 60mins and we’re below our best. His time to win is now and if he can’t him and his sprog need to be moved on.

If we can’t make the grand final now then when? You have to beat good teams to get there. You can’t just sit around waiting for soft draws because that’s probably not going to happen. This year is about as good as you can hope for with an 8th placed Raiders team and a baby Cowboys side.

 

[Gary Gutful]

If we can’t make the grand final now then when? You have to beat good teams to get there. You can’t just sit around waiting for soft draws because that’s probably not going to happen. This year is about as good as you can hope for with an 8th placed Raiders team and a baby Cowboys side.

Townsville will be tough imo. It already getting very f**ken hot up here.

 

[lucablight]

Townsville will be tough imo. It already getting very f**ken hot up here.

Who cares? Both teams are playing on the same field. That’s not going to cut it as a reason we lost (if we even get there that is).

 

[Avenger]

Who cares? Both teams are playing on the same field. That’s not going to cut it as a reason we lost (if we even get there that is).

I think the Cowboys can climatise to the conditions better than we can. It showed in Darwin when we were exposed like a

 

[Gary Gutful]

Who cares? Both teams are playing on the same field. That’s not going to cut it as a reason we lost (if we even get there that is).

What @Avenger said. Its a relevant fact. One that doesn't care about your opinion.

I predict that the Cows will beat us in the PF.

 

[Chipmunk]

There is nothing stopping us going up there on Saturday or Sunday to improve our ability to adapt to the conditions.

 

[Gary Gutful]

There is nothing stopping us going up there on Saturday or Sunday to improve our ability to adapt to the conditions.

Yep. I’d recommend it. Would definitely help.

 

[Chipmunk]

Yep. I’d recommend it. Would definitely help.

Teams have gone up there early in the year and beat them, which I suspect would be even harsher conditions.

If you're good enough, you're good enough.

 

[lucablight]

What @Avenger said. Its a relevant fact. One that doesn't care about your opinion.

I predict that the Cows will beat us in the PF.

What a lame excuse. One was a regular season game while the other is a chance to get into a grand final. Should we wait again for the next few seasons until we make a grand final qualifier where the conditions are to our liking? Then it’ll be some other excuse.

 

[King-Gutho94]

I think the Cowboys can climatise to the conditions better than we can. It showed in Darwin when we were exposed like a

Our record in Darwin is decent 6 wins from 8.

Didn't help we had Jake at 5/8 and Dylan in the centres that night. It just through everything out of whack.

 

[Chipmunk]

Our record in Darwin is decent 6 wins from 8.

Didn't help we had Jake at 5/8 and Dylan in the centres that night. It just through everything out of whack.

Townsville is nothing like Darwin. In fact, Cairns is nothing like Darwin. However, it is far easier to adapt going from Townsville/Cairns to Darwin than it is to adapt going from Sydney to Darwin. Given that our two losses in Darwin have been to the same team, and we were neither in the contest in either game, then this clear evidence of this.

 

[emjaycee]

Canberra where longer odds to win then us over the weekend. On history we beat Penrith twice this season and the last year all games where within 2 points. We got our pants pulled down this finals game

I thought our second game against them this year didnt count because they had Cleary sent off?

#bettingbothways

 

[hindy111]

I thought our second game against them this year didnt count because they had Cleary sent off?

#bettingbothways

It doesn't . But it would of been close. We where 12-4. Imo we probably get done by 2-4

 

[emjaycee]

It doesn't . But it would of been close. We where 12-4. Imo we probably get done by 2-4

So by that logic, last year and the first game this year were all 2 point games, the second game this year would have been a 2-4 point game, and in last weeks final we were winning until our halfback and chief playmaker got taken off, and yet we got our "pants pulled down"?

Makes sense.