Knock-on Effect NSW Cup - Eels Team

[Poupou Escobar]

So the only benefit for club is their form dips and they take it up and then form comes good.

No the benefit to the club is the discount they get at the time the contract is signed. The benefit to the player comes after that.

 

[the phantom menace]

No the benefit to the club is the discount they get at the time the contract is signed. The benefit to the player comes after that.

*was
*came

May as well talk about them in past tense now, as the club has publicly confirmed POs are off the table in the future.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

*was
*came

May as well talk about them in past tense now, as the club has publicly confirmed POs are off the table in the future.

The current administration cannot commit future administrations to such courses of action / inaction. They'd probably go back on their own committment if they were trying to sign Nathan Cleary and the only sticking point was a PO.

 

[Gronk]

The current administration cannot commit future administrations to such courses of action / inaction. They'd probably go back on their own committment if they were trying to sign Nathan Cleary and the only sticking point was a PO.

I tried to make a similar analogy the other day, however it fell on deaf ears.

 

[JokerEel]

The current administration cannot commit future administrations to such courses of action / inaction. They'd probably go back on their own committment if they were trying to sign Nathan Cleary and the only sticking point was a PO.

Cleary is a 4 time premiership player of course you would give hime whatever he wants to come here..

Even Payne Hass I would offer a PO to buy after 5 years.

Offering POs to current players that have won nothing is a fruitless excersise. Which I think the club has come to realize now.

 

[JokerEel]

I will say it again in a different way

In 2022 if we only signed Brown up for 3 seasons would Either of Blaize or Sanders have left?

Both would have had a pathway to being an NRL 6 or 7. As Browns not there till possibly 2032

 

[Pazza]

I will say it again in a different way

In 2022 if we only signed Brown up for 3 seasons would Either of Blaize or Sanders have left?

Both would have had a pathway to being an NRL 6 or 7. As Browns not there till possibly 2032

Pretty simple

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

Cleary is a 4 time premiership player of course you would give hime whatever he wants to come here..

Even Payne Hass I would offer a PO to buy after 5 years.

Offering POs to current players that have won nothing is a fruitless excersise. Which I think the club has come to realize now.

Yeh, sort of. Having multiple POs exercisable in the same year is not great portfolio management. Considered alone, my only issue with the Brown PO was that he had until May to exercise it (and that makes it much harder to organise a replacement for 2026). If that decision had to made last November (or even December) I'd have zero problem with it.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

I will say it again in a different way

In 2022 if we only signed Brown up for 3 seasons would Either of Blaize or Sanders have left?

Both would have had a pathway to being an NRL 6 or 7. As Browns not there till possibly 2032

Are you assuming that we would have declined to offer Brown a new deal for years after 2025?

 

[JokerEel]

Are you assuming that we would have declined to offer Brown a new deal for years after 2025?

Who knows. But at least both Sanders and Blaize could have signed for another year or 2 knowing that Brown may have signed for another team in November 2024.

Giving them a clearer path to the NRL I stead of wait every 2 years Brown may or may not bugger off but it's not in November it's May..

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

Who knows. But at least both Sanders and Blaize could have signed for another year or 2 knowing that Brown may have signed for another team in November 2024.

Giving them a clearer path to the NRL I stead of wait every 2 years Brown may or may not bugger off but it's not in November it's May..

Yeh, there are a lot of unknowables, but my guess is that we would have renewed Brown sometime during the 2024 season. It certainly is relevant to Sanders going, but I'm not sure it would have made much difference to Talagi.

 

[T.S Quint]

But there is a reason in his circumstances. He’s not able to do his job properly, anymore.

Not his problem.
Look, I understand that it’s not good for the club and I would love if he would take one for the team but looking at it from his point of view why should he?

 

[Gronk]

I will say it again in a different way

In 2022 if we only signed Brown up for 3 seasons would Either of Blaize or Sanders have left?

Both would have had a pathway to being an NRL 6 or 7. As Browns not there till possibly 2032

Everyone keeps posting like we had a choice about the options. Who says we did.

Whilst we are playing hypothetical, if both Moses and Brown were going to walk if NOT for that PO structure, is everyone saying we should have refused and watched them walk out in 2022 ?

 

[Happy MEel]

Everyone keeps posting like we had a choice about the options. Who says we did.

Whilst we are playing hypothetical, if both Moses and Brown were going to walk if NOT for that PO structure, is everyone saying we should have refused and watched them walk out in 2022 ?

Dylan - yes
Moses - No

 

[JokerEel]

Everyone keeps posting like we had a choice about the options. Who says we did.

Whilst we are playing hypothetical, if both Moses and Brown were going to walk if NOT for that PO structure, is everyone saying we should have refused and watched them walk out in 2022 ?

Of course we had a choice on the options but after we gave them the option we didn't have a choice it was all in the players hands


Yes they haven't won anything to show they deserve the have the PO take the money we are offering

 

[King-Gutho94]

Not his problem.
Look, I understand that it’s not good for the club and I would love if he would take one for the team but looking at it from his point of view why should he?

So his not allowed to be criticised for being a selfish merkin.

Christian Welch could have played on at Melbourne but decided the best thing for the team was to retire.

Matto is taking up around 650k a year on our salary cap on more money then probably the rep players in his position.

If his heart is not in it f**k off and give someone else a go.

 

[Gronk]

Of course we had a choice on the options but after we gave them the option we didn't have a choice it was all in the players hands


Yes they haven't won anything to show they deserve the have the PO take the money we are offering

I see you ignored my hypothetical.

 

[King-Gutho94]

Everyone keeps posting like we had a choice about the options. Who says we did.

Whilst we are playing hypothetical, if both Moses and Brown were going to walk if NOT for that PO structure, is everyone saying we should have refused and watched them walk out in 2022 ?

I actually think giving Blaize Talagi a PO without even playing a FG game is more of a bonehead decision then giving one to Dylan.

Has anyone explained how we got conned with that one.

 

[Gronk]

I actually think giving Blaize Talagi a PO without even playing a FG game is more of a bonehead decision then giving one to Dylan.

Has anyone explained how we got conned with that one.

who was his manager ?

 

[JokerEel]

I see you ignored my hypothetical.

No it's the next sentence