Galvin

[TheDefinitionOfMadness]

It's baffling isn't it?

For a start Burton, Kikau, and Crichton would all be close with Api and Luai, and to a lesser extent, Turuva. The disrespect Galvin has shown to them would be hard to put aside and no doubt it would have been discussed amongst themselves (the ex-Penrith guys) weeks or even months ago when this first started happening.

Every player at Canterbury is playing at a high standard. But particularly their fringe first graders are playing well above their expected ceilings. This would show they are a very tight knit group. With the arrival of Galvin, blokes like Sexton and Mahoney will be moved on as soon as possible. Other like Preston and King who has just made SOO will find it impossible to (legally) get paid what they're now worth and will likely have to leave. None of this will enhance the comradarie in the club. If anything it will decrease it.

Then there's positional movements that will need to happen. The only way for Galvin to fit in seamlessly would be a straight swap for Sexton. Galvin won't be able to play 7. He just can't run a team in any way, shape, or form. If not, you then start playing musical chairs and run the risk of pissing off players established in those positions who are going great guns.

Add to that all the bullying bullshit that's supposedly happened. You're already playing for a club that has 1 bullying lawsuit in progress and here comes another player that's been crying bullying. How would you be, being around them? You'd be walking on eggshells wondering if you're next, or he's writing your name down in his little book for future reference.

Jabba and Ciraldo are obviously way smarter than all of us combined and their plans may very well work out. I just can't see it happening though. If it does fail I know who'll be getting thrown under the bus, and his initials are LG. If he gets everyone offside at Canterbury, he'll turn out to be the next Hastings.

I was, like a lot of other people I think, right behind the bulldogs and what they were doing. I'm now cheering, like a lot of other people I think, for them to implode. I'd rather see Melbourne win the comp now.

 

[Tigerm]

It's baffling isn't it?

For a start Burton, Kikau, and Crichton would all be close with Api and Luai, and to a lesser extent, Turuva. The disrespect Galvin has shown to them would be hard to put aside and no doubt it would have been discussed amongst themselves (the ex-Penrith guys) weeks or even months ago when this first started happening.

Every player at Canterbury is playing at a high standard. But particularly their fringe first graders are playing well above their expected ceilings. This would show they are a very tight knit group. With the arrival of Galvin, blokes like Sexton and Mahoney will be moved on as soon as possible. Other like Preston and King who has just made SOO will find it impossible to (legally) get paid what they're now worth and will likely have to leave. None of this will enhance the comradarie in the club. If anything it will decrease it.

Then there's positional movements that will need to happen. The only way for Galvin to fit in seamlessly would be a straight swap for Sexton. Galvin won't be able to play 7. He just can't run a team in any way, shape, or form. If not, you then start playing musical chairs and run the risk of pissing off players established in those positions who are going great guns.

Add to that all the bullying bullshit that's supposedly happened. You're already playing for a club that has 1 bullying lawsuit in progress and here comes another player that's been crying bullying. How would you be, being around them? You'd be walking on eggshells wondering if you're next, or he's writing your name down in his little book for future reference.

Jabba and Ciraldo are obviously way smarter than all of us combined and their plans may very well work out. I just can't see it happening though. If it does fail I know who'll be getting thrown under the bus, and his initials are LG. If he gets everyone offside at Canterbury, he'll turn out to be the next Hastings.

I was, like a lot of other people I think, right behind the bulldogs and what they were doing. I'm now cheering, like a lot of other people I think, for them to implode. I'd rather see Melbourne win the comp now.

Good post, I'm sure the original idea was to get him over to Parra, to work with Moses in the halves, that's a risk in it self as Moses doesn't appear to suffer mistakes very easily.
I think Gould was just a little bit greedy with this one, it appears that the kid is toxic.
There is a vid of the WT's sheds after a win (I posted it on here), just can't remember the game.
But the room was going off with the win, all except Galvin who wondered around on his own, looking dejected and no one talking to him.
But, anyway, hopefully our 2 new youngsters (Latu & Heath) can help Laui, deliver for us.

 

[Tigerm]

Gus needs a bigger shovel.

 

[Nutz]

I know one thing, he will never get the love from management that he got here.
When you are being payed big bucks, you have to deliver.

If he delivers at the dogs and they win a premiership everyone will be praising Ciraldo's coaching.
LG was not going to do it with us, not in the short term anyway, so I can understand him going. It's the way in which it was handled that got under my skin.

 

[TheDefinitionOfMadness]

Gus needs a bigger shovel.

Funny about that. On 100% Footy on Monday he said he'd never met Galvin. It's hard to keep lies straight when you tell so many of them. haha

 

[Tigerm]

Still puzzled how the NRL can ratify a much smaller contract than the one we offered.
I didn't think that was allowed, but I'm not complaining any longer, happy to see him gone.

 

[Nutz]

Still puzzled how the NRL can ratify a much smaller contract than the one we offered.
I didn't think that was allowed, but I'm not complaining any longer, happy to see him gone.

How could it be not allowed Tm?

 

[Nutz]

Funny about that. On 100% Footy on Monday he said he'd never met Galvin. It's hard to keep lies straight when you tell so many of them. haha

He's full of poor poo

 

[Tigerm]

How could it be not allowed Tm?

Because of salary cap, by lowballing our offer (admittedly he didn't accept it) it basically would allow them to buy another player, i.e. 2 for the price of 1.
I didn't think that was allowed, to offer below market rates?
E.G. if we said we gave a contract to Cleary who agreed to $500k per year, I don't think they would accept it.

 

[Nutz]

Because of salary cap, by lowballing our offer (admittedly he didn't accept it) it basically would allow them to buy another player, i.e. 2 for the price of 1.
I didn't think that was allowed, to offer below market rates?
E.G. if we said we gave a contract to Cleary who agreed to $500k per year, I don't think they would accept it.

Oh ok, that interesting hey.

 

[Nutz]

Because of salary cap, by lowballing our offer (admittedly he didn't accept it) it basically would allow them to buy another player, i.e. 2 for the price of 1.
I didn't think that was allowed, to offer below market rates?
E.G. if we said we gave a contract to Cleary who agreed to $500k per year, I don't think they would accept it.

Has that happened before? Did the nrl step in? If so that would be first ha ha

 

[Tigerm]

Oh ok, that interesting hey.

While it's legal, you can bet Landy will have a mate offer him a good TPA as well.

 

[Nutz]

While it's legal, you can bet Landy will have a mate offer him a good TPA as well.

That's it hey. TPA should be transparent then.

 

[Tigerm]

Has that happened before? Did the nrl step in? If so that would be first ha ha

I seem to recall that they have, I just can't recall who or when (had a feeling it was the storm), as I just posted, the player won't miss out, they will have a TPA ready for him, but the club gains by not have there cap fully affected?
I don't really care, he's going, gone, maybe the salary cap auditors have looked at it and said all good.

 

[Tigerm]

Do you reckon Ivan & Nathan are only earning their contract money?
Obviously Ivan can be paid what ever, but Nathan?

 

[Tiger Ted]

While it's legal, you can bet Landy will have a mate offer him a good TPA as well.

His old man will be receiving a sizeable amt of money from the Laundy group via an untraceable trust account.A billionaire benefactor has numerous strategies to skin a cat.One things for certain Galvin is receiving more than what we offered him & Isaac Moses wouldve negotiated a truckload of cash for himself.

 

[TheDefinitionOfMadness]

Because of salary cap, by lowballing our offer (admittedly he didn't accept it) it basically would allow them to buy another player, i.e. 2 for the price of 1.
I didn't think that was allowed, to offer below market rates?
E.G. if we said we gave a contract to Cleary who agreed to $500k per year, I don't think they would accept it.

It depends on the player and the club. As an example if we tried to do the same thing it would be blocked for the reason you mention, but teams like Melbourne, Brisbane, Easts, and now Canterbury can do whatever they want.

I've got no love for Parra, but when they tried to sign Isreal Folou it was unders for the first 2 years then overs the 2 years after that. That got blocked as it was under market value. The real reason was because they didn't want him and his religious beliefs in the NRL but they didn't want to say it because it would be discriminatory and would put off all the polynisean players who are religous almost to a man

If the NRL cared about an equal comp it would be easy as to have one. Just:

1. No more TPA's. Every team has their cap and that's it.
2. Whenever a player wants to go market whoever places the highest bid sets the market value. So in LG and the Tigers instance, his market value is $1 million because that was the Tigers offer and it was the highest offer. He is absolutely free to go to the Bulldogs at $750k but it still goes down on the Bulldogs cap for $1 million. If the highest bid is accepted by the player the club who made cannot back out. This will stop clubs from throwing in bids they had no intention of honouring, just to screw over a rival club, and stop player managers doing the same.
3. All contracts are enforced for both the player and the club. No getting out of them either way.

This would create an even comp but NRL don't appear interested.

 

[Nutz]

His old man will be receiving a sizeable amt of money from the Laundy group via an untraceable trust account.A billionaire benefactor has numerous strategies to skin a cat.One things for certain Galvin is receiving more than what we offered him & Isaac Moses wouldve negotiated a truckload of cash for himself.

I'd love to see Chammas keep digging and find some substantial dirt of the managers and club officials so the NRL have no choice but to reregister them.
Supporters are treated like fools and we don't have a say in anything.

 

[Nutz]

It depends on the player and the club. As an example if we tried to do the same thing it would be blocked for the reason you mention, but teams like Melbourne, Brisbane, Easts, and now Canterbury can do whatever they want.

I've got no love for Parra, but when they tried to sign Isreal Folou it was unders for the first 2 years then overs the 2 years after that. That got blocked as it was under market value. The real reason was because they didn't want him and his religious beliefs in the NRL but they didn't want to say it because it would be discriminatory and would put off all the polynisean players who are religous almost to a man

If the NRL cared about an equal comp it would be easy as to have one. Just:

1. No more TPA's. Every team has their cap and that's it.
2. Whenever a player wants to go market whoever places the highest bid sets the market value. So in LG and the Tigers instance, his market value is $1 million because that was the Tigers offer and it was the highest offer. He is absolutely free to go to the Bulldogs at $750k but it still goes down on the Bulldogs cap for $1 million. If the highest bid is accepted by the player the club who made cannot back out. This will stop clubs from throwing in bids they had no intention of honouring, just to screw over a rival club, and stop player managers doing the same.
3. All contracts are enforced for both the player and the club. No getting out of them either way.

This would create an even comp but NRL don't appear interested.

Wow this is riveting stuff.

 

[Tigerm]

While business is business, I hope someone snaps him, when we play them.