Runnit

[ozbash]

New craze..sad the young guy died but I guess it's no different to any other "contact" sport..
I've seen more KOs in MMA..boxing..rugby or league.
Is the hysteria an over reaction ?

 

[Izz]

New craze..sad the young guy died but I guess it's no different to any other "contact" sport..
I've seen more KOs in MMA..boxing..rugby or league.
Is the hysteria an over reaction ?

Difference, imo, is that MMA, boxing, rugby, league, those are trained athletes (well, MMA, boxing, most of the time). Competitors in Runnit right now are anything but.

 

[Penrose Warrior]

New craze..sad the young guy died but I guess it's no different to any other "contact" sport..
I've seen more KOs in MMA..boxing..rugby or league.
Is the hysteria an over reaction ?

Yes, it is an over reaction. Because as I think I said elsewhere, the goal in MMA, boxing etc is explicitly to cause a brain injury on the opponent. That is what is glorified, what is celebrated, what gets the juices flowing for fight fans.

Runit doesn't target the head. It is much more likely to involve head contact, clearly, but that is not the goal.

I don't like it but you are right, it's an over reaction whilst other sports are more brutal and concussion-orientated, but they've been around so long that we look past it.

 

[Manu Vatuvei]

While in boxing and MMA the goal is to cause injury, the simultaneous goal is to avoid getting injured. With RUNIT there's a mutual obligation to create the biggest collision possible and self-preservation is effectively banned.

 

[Thatwasnthighref]

While in boxing and MMA the goal is to cause injury, the simultaneous goal is to avoid getting injured. With RUNIT there's a mutual obligation to create the biggest collision possible and self-preservation is effectively banned.

Yea that's how I see it too, much like slap fighting. Makes me very uncomfortable, especially with a teenage son. Fortunately my lad hasn't bought into it yet, but its one of the many things I'm actively keeping an eye out for.

 

[Beavers Headgear]

Let them do it, nothing wrong with a bit of natural selection, but sign a waiver that they won’t be entitled to any ACC funds for the injuries sustained

 

[Wheeled Warrior]

This is on par with power slap. There's no regard for people's well-being, and anyone could join in. Other sports require a certain skill level actual athleticism to participate. I'd mention Dan Hooker's Garden Fight competition too. While there are experienced fighters involved, there are people who are untrained haven't fought in, or out of shape plus there are no weight classes.

 

[Blair]

Masculinity in crisis? I'm gonna sound like a South African schoolmaster but, rugby and cricket will sort the men out from the boys. There's no need for anything else.

What's more is you train for it too and that training is often more full-on than the game on Saturday. As a man I'm staunch and walk tall. Why? Because I had 15 years facing lunatic clubmates bouncing me in the nets! Sometimes there wasn't even a 'bounce'.

 

[Campion]

haha loved playing cricket in NZ as a kid/adult. we had a mate that tried to pull me and top edged into his mouth. it looked like he had super-herpes for weeks and he lost his confidence. for the next 5 years(!) everyone bowled bouncers at him constantly. even the spinners were getting involved! to his credit he just accepted his fate

 

[Beavers Headgear]

We had an English amateur one season who got promoted from number 8 to opening, he battled with the short ball so I had to pepper him every session, felt like a real arsehole lol

Was always fun in the nets facing our first class fast bowlers as the sun was going down and they were over stepping by 3 feet !! Or pre season in doors when they are fired up and it is pinging off the astroturf with a new seed

Not sure if many remember Richard Sherlock, could bowl 150km but built like a twig. We were playing him in 2nd grade as he came back from injury, he was off 3 paces, our opener who wore a helmet without a grill gave him some lip, next couple of overs were off 30 yards lol, he ended up getting in the shit with Canterbury Cricket over it

 

[SpaceMonkey]

This is on par with power slap. There's no regard for people's well-being, and anyone could join in. Other sports require a certain skill level actual athleticism to participate. I'd mention Dan Hooker's Garden Fight competition too. While there are experienced fighters involved, there are people who are untrained haven't fought in, or out of shape plus there are no weight classes.

Runit is pretty idiotic but I think Dans backyard fight tournament has copped a bit more handwringing than it really deserved- if you look at the amount or organisation that went into it and the duration of the fights, it’s quite possibly actually safer than a lot of MMA or pro boxing tournaments.

 

[Penrose Warrior]

Not sure if many remember Richard Sherlock, could bowl 150km but built like a twig. We were playing him in 2nd grade as he came back from injury, he was off 3 paces, our opener who wore a helmet without a grill gave him some lip, next couple of overs were off 30 yards lol, he ended up getting in the shit with Canterbury Cricket over it

Sherlo was a real maverick. I played against him in U17s, he was way faster than anyone else and a lock to make higher honours...but didn't have the right mental stuff to achieve it.

 

[Blair]

Have you cricket guys read The Grade Cricketer? I read it cover to cover while I was in Tasmania.

Everything's in it from your school and club cricket days. It's actually an emotional read but you mainly laugh and at the end you go, 'was my career worth it?' And I think you then go, 'of course it bloody was!' But, like the authors, you take a deep pause first.

 

[Beavers Headgear]

Sherlo was a real maverick. I played against him in U17s, he was way faster than anyone else and a lock to make higher honours...but didn't have the right mental stuff to achieve it.

He was a real free spirit who sadly didn’t have the body to hold up to what he was putting it through, he seemed more comfortable behind a guitar too

think he was the guy who Dennis Lillee saw and said to put him straight into the black caps at 18 or 19 years old

 

[Beavers Headgear]

Have you cricket guys read The Grade Cricketer? I read it cover to cover while I was in Tasmania.

Everything's in it from your school and club cricket days. It's actually an emotional read but you mainly laugh and at the end you go, 'was my career worth it?' And I think you then go, 'of course it bloody was!' But, like the authors, you take a deep pause first.

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Have read both of those, so many veins of truth among the satire lol

 

[SpaceMonkey]

He was a real free spirit who sadly didn’t have the body to hold up to what he was putting it through, he seemed more comfortable behind a guitar too

think he was the guy who Dennis Lillee saw and said to put him straight into the black caps at 18 or 19 years old

Seems to be half the battle with quicks, imagine what Shane Bond would’ve been if his body had held up.

 

[Beavers Headgear]

Seems to be half the battle with quicks, imagine what Shane Bond would’ve been if his body had held up.

Real unique story Bond, put cricket on the back burner, went and did police training and all of a sudden found an extra 15-20km. He broke 2 of my mates arms and one big toe in the games against him.

On the old Hagley Oval there were 4 grounds that all overlapped each other, I was fine leg in my game, and extremely close leg slip with Bond bowling in his game, wasn’t a very enjoyable experience lol. McCullum told me to come over and stand in he slips with them

 

[Penrose Warrior]

He was a real free spirit who sadly didn’t have the body to hold up to what he was putting it through, he seemed more comfortable behind a guitar too

think he was the guy who Dennis Lillee saw and said to put him straight into the black caps at 18 or 19 years old

Was a decent golfer too, I've never seen anyone put backspin on shots from 100m like he could. He was ultimately a bit of a lost soul.

On the old Hagley Oval there were 4 grounds that all overlapped each other, I was fine leg in my game, and extremely close leg slip with Bond bowling in his game, wasn’t a very enjoyable experience lol. McCullum told me to come over and stand in he slips with them

Haha, you go to England or Australia etc and it blows their mind that we have grounds that overlap. Always made for a hairy experience at fine leg when you had to keep an eye on your game and you were always in the firing line for another.

I'll never forget watching Bond in the UK in 2004, before he got injured. He was bowling heat at Graeme Hick, in this game - https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...shire-vs-new-zealanders-140758/full-scorecard

It was insane. Hick kept hooking Bond for six out of the ground off his nose. Bond bowled faster, Hick hit it further. Hick was a hell of a player who just didn't have the mental game to make it at the top.

 

[Blair]

Graeme Hick...was a hell of a player who just didn't have the mental game to make it at the top.

In hindsight he might've gone better in our set-up, without all the Ashes pressure, MCC and Lords 'prestige' and competition for his spot.

Hick was at ND for years and had qualified for us but chose England, which is fully understandable.

I've just finished Warnie's autobiography (I miss the guy and liked him more than I thought when he was alive). He mentioned Hick's 'lack of mental toughness' but also how he 'couldn't play the short ball'. He must've just had one of those days there against Bond.