2025 Crowd Watch

[Valheru]

Of course Id love a stadium at the end of my street so I could walk there in 5mins. But if it takes me 60mins on public transport then so be it, the investment of my time in supporting my team. Its no hardship 11 days a year to do that.

You didn't really answer the question.

Say you had the stadium at the end of your street and then they moved somewhere else?

For context I travel the hour each way for most roosters home games but I've also never known anything different. I'm trying to give you insight to sharks fans point of view.

 

[newc18]

Pot kettle mate. You keep targeting the Sharks. That’s your choice. I respond. That’s mine. Suck it up sister.

Stop acting like a victim. I talked about both the Sharks and Dragons because they are currently the bottom two teams in attendances. If it wasn't for you being a merkin, this discussion would have been finished days ago.

 

[AdelaideSharky]

The inner city transport around Melbourne seems specifically designed to get you easy access to stadiums. It’s very noticeable getting to Marvel, the MCG and AAMI. Getting to Accor is a nightmare.

Correct. There's tram stops near all three and Flinders Street & Southern Cross stations are nearby.

Accor is a nightmare.

 

[newc18]

Correct. There's tram stops near all three and Flinders Street & Southern Cross stations are nearby.

Accor is a nightmare.

Hopefully the new metro helps with Accor. I've noticed coming from the north all you would have to do is stop at North Strathfield and get the metro from there.

 

[AdelaideSharky]

Hopefully the new metro helps with Accor. I've noticed coming from the north all you would have to do is stop at North Strathfield and get the metro from there.

It'd still be a bastard for Sharks & Dragons fans coming from the south if the Olympic Park metro doesn't go via the city.

I hated games at Accor, the special event buses were even worse.

Spent half the trip going back to the Shire getting out of the southwest then King Georges Rd.

 

[Sky_Is_The_Limit]

So it actually takes 35-45min to get from Penrith train station to Parra stadium?
Sure if you live a long way west of Penrith it makes it longer but thats just stretching excuses as fans will often live all over, no doubt many Penrith fans live East of Penrith as well.
For me I have to walk 10mins to bus stop, 15mins bus to train, 20min train to city, 15min walk from station to HBF. No hardship and I wont be missing a Bears game and blaming just a 60min each way trip!

Still if clubs want to scrape along in suburban grounds thats up to them, thankfully for Penrith they've been lucky enough to be gifted a stadium so Parra is temp and the fans wont be inconvenienced for too long!

So you've conveniently ignored the central elements of my questions.
- Where people work, how they would get to Parramatta, and how they would get home?
- If they work in Penrith, do they need to drive to the commuter car park to get the train?
- If the game is too early, will the commuter car park still be full as people will not have returned from their place of work on the train to pick up their car?

As others in this thread have pointed out, the Sydney context is different. You are effectively advocating for Penrith fans (in this instance) to embrace (en mass) having to travel to another team’s home ground, in another team’s home geographic area, from their place of residence or work (depending on the time and day).

How is that a more compelling proposition to Penrith fans (in this instance) than having a home game at their home ground in their home geographic area, where travelling from their place of residence or work (depending on the time and day) is a much more efficient process.

 

[RedVee]

It'd still be a bastard for Sharks & Dragons fans coming from the south if the Olympic Park metro doesn't go via the city.

I hated games at Accor, the special event buses were even worse.

Spent half the trip going back to the Shire getting out of the southwest then King Georges Rd.

It will go to the city but not to central if I remember correctly.
St George & Cronulla would have to go into the city and out again, like they would now. Or just drive up King George’s Rd.

https://nsw-transport.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/sydney-metro-network-future-4.png

If they wait long enough then it is supposed to be another Metro line from Miranda through Kogarah to Ashfield and on to the City. Mind you we may all be dead by then. I expect to be dead by the 2056 Macarthur link to the new West Airport is due to open…

 

[Vlad59]

It'd still be a bastard for Sharks & Dragons fans coming from the south if the Olympic Park metro doesn't go via the city.

I hated games at Accor, the special event buses were even worse.

Spent half the trip going back to the Shire getting out of the southwest then King Georges Rd.

I went to Accor some years ago to watch a game with me mate from the Shire. His wife drove us. We knocked off a six pack on the way without any trouble. It took forever. Caught two buses home. One hour 50 minutes return. Back home after midnight. Frigging delightful. I’ve travelled for decades particularly to Sydney and Melbourne. Sydney has definitely improved but Accor is a shit show whenever I’ve gone out there even taxiing out from Canterbury. Allianz is better but still a grind compared to getting to games in Melbourne.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

As I've said elsewhere, the reason we don't get government funding for it is we own the ground and the entire land around it.

Virtually all the grounds that have had a redevelopment are owned by the government through Venues NSW.

I'd imagine any deal for funding from the NSW state government would be to give up ownership of the ground and land and hand it to VenuesNSW which would be a very bad deal.

Dolphins got funding from the QLD government for their privately owned ground, it's not impossible

 

[AdelaideSharky]

Dolphins got funding from the QLD government for their privately owned ground, it's not impossible

The Minns Labor government took funding that Cronulla was supposed to get (under a deal with the former Perrotet Liberal government) off the table and gave it to the Easter Island heads from the west.

 

[Desert Qlder]

Back to crowds, I’ll be interested in how many hang around for both games of ‘mini magic round’ on Saturday.

 

[Timmah]

Back to crowds, I’ll be interested in how many hang around for both games of ‘mini magic round’ on Saturday.

Nobody can 'hang around'. It's two game days on the same day, completely separate. Stadium getting emptied after BRI v WAR

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Nobody can 'hang around'. It's two game days on the same day, completely separate. Stadium getting emptied after BRI v WAR

He obviously meant, attend both games. I'll be "hanging around" for both

 

[Desert Qlder]

Nobody can 'hang around'. It's two game days on the same day, completely separate. Stadium getting emptied after BRI v WAR

Lighten up, it’s a euphemism for attending both games.

 

[Jamberoo]

The inner city transport around Melbourne seems specifically designed to get you easy access to stadiums. It’s very noticeable getting to Marvel, the MCG and AAMI. Getting to Accor is a nightmare.

Actually it is the other way around. They built the new stadiums (AAMI and Marvel) where the transport was.

Ease of access is everything if you want regular big crowds.

 

[Cumberland Throw]

Which ever moron decided to put Sydney Olympic park station on a spur line was deluded.. why wasn't it integrated into the western or northern line ?

 

[TheEroticGamer]

Can’t speak for all games but coming down from the Lower Mountains to Commbank took almost an hour and a half when we played Cowboys. From Penrith onwards a touch over an hour. Maybe a little under if you’re excluding the crawl up the multi level parking next door.

Despite this, there is a very real possibility with the home games remaining we end up with a higher crowd average at Parra than Parra themselves. That’s unbelievable. Give us the Southern Stand that is compatible with the new stadium to bring up the capacity to 28k and watch us fly.

 

[Stinkfinger]

Just because the suburbs that the AFL clubs are named after are within 10 minutes of city . Doesn't mean the fans live there.. Melbourne is also spread out

Bit different. The city is surrounded by land to about 270 degrees instead of 180, so it doesn't need to extend out as far. Sydney would not stand for all its teams being in the inner suburbs otherwise Newtown, North Sydney and Glebe would still be first grade teams.

 

[Jonty]

Endlessly criticising one club, which is what you have done, suggests an obsessive hatred.

Or cronulla are just that sh#te.

 

[Jonty]

Endlessly criticising one club, which is what you have done, suggests an obsessive hatred.

Nearly every post you make attacks Cronulla. Give it a rest you flog.

Ah, diddums.