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Rugby Australia to target top NRL talent

King hit

Coach
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True but by then Australia will struggle to fill a team

English union commentators like Clive Woodward are saying this should be the last tour since Australia are so uncompetitive

France and Argentina have put their hands up instead
Clive Woodward is the last person to comment on uncompetitive Lions tours. They got humiliated when he coached them.
 

T to the T

Juniors
Messages
655
I think you'll find there on the Irish Times and Independent (even the one you are showing there) that the No. 1 banner is rugby. Which is fairly remarkable given it is the #3 sport in the country and the All Ireland was last weekend. It has almost certainly been the biggest story in Ireland, although that is tied to the amount of influence Ireland has had on this years tour.

The fact that the series is over clearly means interest will go down. The English win in the Euros was the biggest story of the last month in the UK absolutely, that does not mean "hardly any coverage" as that other fella is trying to let you on with.
Gave up after the first sentence 🤣 Banner is the line you are going down now 🤣 From leading the sports news to fecking banner. On top the All-Ireland Hurling and All-Ireland has smoked the coverage in Ireland to 2 previous weeks, FACT! You're full of sh!t West Brit, look forward to continuing to embarrass you 👍
 

Gobsmacked

Bench
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4,052
I don't think he's bothered about a rookie award... what's in front of him is the next 10 years in a Blue jumper and a green and gold!

He might get the green and gold this year..

He's too good for Union. He wants the ball, he wants the contact and physicality, he wants to go toe to toe with the best.
All the awesome footy we've seen from him this year is not possible in Union.

He'll go back when he's looking for a pay packet before he retires.
 

taste2taste

Bench
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2,939
Im confused. The Union mob keep telling us its booming in the USA ? A new broadcast deal with ESPN+ was going to have Americans glued to thier TVs and pouring through the gates.

It hasnt worked out that way ?
 

shadowformz

Juniors
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327
ayne Bennett says Rugby360 league is a Super League-level threat to NRL
Many high-profile rugby league figures have dismissed R360 as a “pie-in-the-sky” disrupter, but Wayne Bennett warned the NRL could be torn apart Super League-style if they are complacent.
Wayne Bennett has warned the R360 threat is “huge” and called for an NRL top-up scheme to stop Payne Haas, Reece Walsh and Nathan Cleary being poached by the Super League-style rebel competition.

Bennett, one of the code’s most powerful voices, has urged ARL Commission boss Peter V’landys to hold an urgent summit and proposed a radical payment plan to keep the biggest stars in rugby league.

The NRL’s greatest coach likened R360 to the lucrative LIV golf circuit that is backed by Saudi Arabia’s Public Investment Fund, which is worth more than $US900 billion.
Now Middle-Eastern billions are spreading their tentacles to the mooted rebel rugby competition which has already begun targeting NRL stars, including Ryan Papenhuyzen and Roger Tuivasa-Sheck.
Bennett was coaching the Broncos when a trio of his best players dropped code-switch bombshells on the NRL in three consecutive years.

Bennett’s star back-rower Brad Thorn quit the Broncos after their 2000 premiership win to chase his All Blacks dream, before champion wingers Wendell Sailor (2001) and Lote Tuqiri (2002) walked away to represent the Wallabies at the 2003 Rugby World Cup.

Many rugby league figures, including V’landys, have dismissed R360 as a “pie-in-the-sky” disrupter, but Bennett warned the NRL could be torn apart Super League-style if they are complacent.
It’s a huge threat, absolutely,” Bennett said.

“The NRL is the toughest competition in the world with the best athletes.
We are absolutely under threat.

“We cannot ignore it.

“I don’t know how we combat it but I will say this - the game needs to come together sooner rather than later in terms of the CEOs and the game itself.

“Let’s talk about what the hell is going on out there.

“Have the conversation we need to have with each other and discuss how do we stop it, what do we do?
They will be looking at the star players like Cleary, Latrell (Mitchell) or Reece Walsh, they are the ones that the fans pay their money to watch.

“If we lost just 10 or 12 players like them, it will leave a massive hole in our competition.
Look at the golf. Who would have thought LIV would be a threat but it is. The amount of money they have paid, we will never be able to match them if they (R360) are serious about the amount of money they have to spend.

“Where does this end for the NRL?

“The game has to address this and come up with a plan.

“We’d be foolish to suck our thumbs and hope to God it goes away.”

According to British media, R360 has acquired the necessary funding from Saudi Arabia, the UK and United States to kick-off in 2026 with aims to be profitable by 2027.
Rugby Australia successfully used its top-up payments scheme to lure rugby league stars Sailor, Tuqiri, Mat Rogers, Karmichael Hunt and Israel Folau to the 15-a-side code.
Bennett believes the NRL should consider a similar system whereby each of the 17 clubs, plus incoming franchises Perth and Papua New Guinea by 2028, nominate a marquee player to have their contracts beefed-up by League Central funding.
Bennett says the NRL, which boasted a profit of $62.3 million last year and has net assets of $320m, is now in a position to top-up the code’s true elite to stave off the R360 poaching threat.
Asked about the NRL providing financial assistance with marquee players such as Cleary and Walsh, Bennett said: “Absolutely, there’s a lot of things you can do.

“That (a NRL top-up scheme) is an option.
If we don’t sit down and talk about it and recognise these raids can happen to us, it will be too late and the stars could be gone.

“The issue here, too, is the player managers. If an agent has a player on $1 million in the NRL and he could get $3 million with rugby, it’s going to be hard to convince the player to stay in the NRL.
“I don’t know much about this R360 competition, but we are the biggest target. It won’t impact on Aussie rules or soccer, it will impact the NRL most.

“They will be coming after our best players and they’ll only be offering the big money to our best players. They won’t be chasing players 10 and 11 on an NRL roster.
When you’re going to watch someone play, you’re not going to watch 10 guys that no-one knows a lot about. You want to watch the big stars.

“And if they don’t have the stars, they’ll be taking our stars.
Do you think Payne Haas couldn’t go over to rugby tomorrow and play breakaway in rugby union? He would be a success in rugby. Our best players like Haas or Cleary would handle rugby easily.

“The one great thing about the NRL is the athletes we produce and they need athletes. They could teach them how to pick up rugby very quickly.
Let’s not forget we lost guys like Wendell, Lote Tuqiri, Mat Rogers, Karmichael Hunt, Israel Folau, they all went to rugby and they played for Australia.

“Joseph Suaalii is playing centre for the Wallabies right now - he was in the NRL last year.
Don’t think they won’t be buying them because they can’t change them, because they can.

“The game is flush with income these days, maybe we look at a plan where the game pays extra money to the best players to keep them in our game.”
V’landys says the NRL won’t be jumping at shadows amid talk of R360 chiefs descending on the Telstra Premiership like Super League recruiters operating by stealth, armed with massive contracts to defect.

“It (the R360 threat) has generated a life of its own but 50 per cent of it is fiction,” V’landys said.
Anyone can come up with these schemes.

“I’ve seen hundreds of them, but it doesn’t mean they will come to fruition.
Once they do the business models, they might say we can’t make money out of this.

“How would an NRL player like it if they (R360) went broke halfway through it?
I’m not worried at all that Nathan Cleary would go. If there was something solid, then I would be worried 24-7, but I’ve seen these schemes all the time.

“Some are credible. Some aren’t.

“Time will tell if this is credible or not.
South Sydney chief executive Blake Solly echoed the sentiments of his club coach Bennett.

“There is not a huge amount of information available about R360, or the realistic prospects of it getting started,” he said.
But we shouldn’t be complacent or lazy when it comes to any competition for the NRL.

“The ARLC, players and clubs have worked extremely hard to put the sport in such a strong position.

“We need to be alive to any threat, and make sure it’s neutralised.”
 

T to the T

Juniors
Messages
655
Can someone post it?

Wayne Bennett says Rugby360 league is a Super League-level threat to NRL

Many high-profile rugby league figures have dismissed R360 as a “pie-in-the-sky” disrupter, but Wayne Bennett warned the NRL could be torn apart Super League-style if they are complacent.

Wayne Bennett has warned the R360 threat is “huge” and called for an NRL top-up scheme to stop Payne Haas, Reece Walsh and Nathan Cleary being poached by the Super League-style rebel competition.
Bennett, one of the code’s most powerful voices, has urged ARL Commission boss Peter V’landys to hold an urgent summit and proposed a radical payment plan to keep the biggest stars in rugby league.
The NRL’s greatest coach likened R360 to the lucrative LIV golf circuit that is backed by Saudi Arabia’s Public Investment Fund, which is worth more than $US900 billion.
Now Middle-Eastern billions are spreading their tentacles to the mooted rebel rugby competition which has already begun targeting NRL stars, including Ryan Papenhuyzen and Roger Tuivasa-Sheck.

Bennett was coaching the Broncos when a trio of his best players dropped code-switch bombshells on the NRL in three consecutive years.
Bennett’s star back-rower Brad Thorn quit the Broncos after their 2000 premiership win to chase his All Blacks dream, before champion wingers Wendell Sailor (2001) and Lote Tuqiri (2002) walked away to represent the Wallabies at the 2003 Rugby World Cup.
Many rugby league figures, including V’landys, have dismissed R360 as a “pie-in-the-sky” disrupter, but Bennett warned the NRL could be torn apart Super League-style if they are complacent.
“It’s a huge threat, absolutely,” Bennett said.
“The NRL is the toughest competition in the world with the best athletes.
“We are absolutely under threat.
“We cannot ignore it.
“I don’t know how we combat it but I will say this - the game needs to come together sooner rather than later in terms of the CEOs and the game itself.
“Let’s talk about what the hell is going on out there.
“Have the conversation we need to have with each other and discuss how do we stop it, what do we do?
“They will be looking at the star players like Cleary, Latrell (Mitchell) or Reece Walsh, they are the ones that the fans pay their money to watch.
“If we lost just 10 or 12 players like them, it will leave a massive hole in our competition.
“Look at the golf. Who would have thought LIV would be a threat but it is. The amount of money they have paid, we will never be able to match them if they (R360) are serious about the amount of money they have to spend.
“Where does this end for the NRL?
“The game has to address this and come up with a plan.
“We’d be foolish to suck our thumbs and hope to God it goes away.”
According to British media, R360 has acquired the necessary funding from Saudi Arabia, the UK and United States to kick-off in 2026 with aims to be profitable by 2027.
Rugby Australia successfully used its top-up payments scheme to lure rugby league stars Sailor, Tuqiri, Mat Rogers, Karmichael Hunt and Israel Folau to the 15-a-side code.
NRL: The NRL 360 panel discuss Kalyn Ponga's potential move to French or Japanese rugby as he considers a code switch after a tough run in Newcastle.
Bennett believes the NRL should consider a similar system whereby each of the 17 clubs, plus incoming franchises Perth and Papua New Guinea by 2028, nominate a marquee player to have their contracts beefed-up by League Central funding.
Bennett says the NRL, which boasted a profit of $62.3 million last year and has net assets of $320m, is now in a position to top-up the code’s true elite to stave off the R360 poaching threat.
Asked about the NRL providing financial assistance with marquee players such as Cleary and Walsh, Bennett said: “Absolutely, there’s a lot of things you can do.
“That (a NRL top-up scheme) is an option.
“If we don’t sit down and talk about it and recognise these raids can happen to us, it will be too late and the stars could be gone.
“The issue here, too, is the player managers. If an agent has a player on $1 million in the NRL and he could get $3 million with rugby, it’s going to be hard to convince the player to stay in the NRL.
“I don’t know much about this R360 competition, but we are the biggest target. It won’t impact on Aussie rules or soccer, it will impact the NRL most.
“They will be coming after our best players and they’ll only be offering the big money to our best players. They won’t be chasing players 10 and 11 on an NRL roster.

"When you’re going to watch someone play, you’re not going to watch 10 guys that no-one knows a lot about. You want to watch the big stars.
“And if they don’t have the stars, they’ll be taking our stars.
“Do you think Payne Haas couldn’t go over to rugby tomorrow and play breakaway in rugby union? He would be a success in rugby. Our best players like Haas or Cleary would handle rugby easily.
“The one great thing about the NRL is the athletes we produce and they need athletes. They could teach them how to pick up rugby very quickly.
“Let’s not forget we lost guys like Wendell, Lote Tuqiri, Mat Rogers, Karmichael Hunt, Israel Folau, they all went to rugby and they played for Australia.
“Joseph Suaalii is playing centre for the Wallabies right now - he was in the NRL last year.
“Don’t think they won’t be buying them because they can’t change them, because they can.
“The game is flush with income these days, maybe we look at a plan where the game pays extra money to the best players to keep them in our game.”
V’landys says the NRL won’t be jumping at shadows amid talk of R360 chiefs descending on the Telstra Premiership like Super League recruiters operating by stealth, armed with massive contracts to defect.
“It (the R360 threat) has generated a life of its own but 50 per cent of it is fiction,” V’landys said.

“Anyone can come up with these schemes.
“I’ve seen hundreds of them, but it doesn’t mean they will come to fruition.
“Once they do the business models, they might say we can’t make money out of this.
“How would an NRL player like it if they (R360) went broke halfway through it?
“I’m not worried at all that Nathan Cleary would go. If there was something solid, then I would be worried 24-7, but I’ve seen these schemes all the time.
“Some are credible. Some aren’t.
“Time will tell if this is credible or not.
South Sydney chief executive Blake Solly echoed the sentiments of his club coach Bennett.
“There is not a huge amount of information available about R360, or the realistic prospects of it getting started,” he said.
“But we shouldn’t be complacent or lazy when it comes to any competition for the NRL.
“The ARLC, players and clubs have worked extremely hard to put the sport in such a strong position.
“We need to be alive to any threat, and make sure it’s neutralised.”
 
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Sounds like this R360 is a glorified Rugby 7's. If Vlandys thinks this is nothing, he's wrong...

Playing in the toughest contest means nothing anymore, this generation of people want maximum dollar for little or less activity/output (perfect example people would rather be an influencer then have a proper career or do an apprenticeship).... Its across the board in all professions of work/careers.
 
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taste2taste

Bench
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ayne Bennett says Rugby360 league is a Super League-level threat to NRL
Many high-profile rugby league figures have dismissed R360 as a “pie-in-the-sky” disrupter, but Wayne Bennett warned the NRL could be torn apart Super League-style if they are complacent.
Wayne Bennett has warned the R360 threat is “huge” and called for an NRL top-up scheme to stop Payne Haas, Reece Walsh and Nathan Cleary being poached by the Super League-style rebel competition.

Bennett, one of the code’s most powerful voices, has urged ARL Commission boss Peter V’landys to hold an urgent summit and proposed a radical payment plan to keep the biggest stars in rugby league.

The NRL’s greatest coach likened R360 to the lucrative LIV golf circuit that is backed by Saudi Arabia’s Public Investment Fund, which is worth more than $US900 billion.
Now Middle-Eastern billions are spreading their tentacles to the mooted rebel rugby competition which has already begun targeting NRL stars, including Ryan Papenhuyzen and Roger Tuivasa-Sheck.
Bennett was coaching the Broncos when a trio of his best players dropped code-switch bombshells on the NRL in three consecutive years.

Bennett’s star back-rower Brad Thorn quit the Broncos after their 2000 premiership win to chase his All Blacks dream, before champion wingers Wendell Sailor (2001) and Lote Tuqiri (2002) walked away to represent the Wallabies at the 2003 Rugby World Cup.

Many rugby league figures, including V’landys, have dismissed R360 as a “pie-in-the-sky” disrupter, but Bennett warned the NRL could be torn apart Super League-style if they are complacent.
It’s a huge threat, absolutely,” Bennett said.

“The NRL is the toughest competition in the world with the best athletes.
We are absolutely under threat.

“We cannot ignore it.

“I don’t know how we combat it but I will say this - the game needs to come together sooner rather than later in terms of the CEOs and the game itself.

“Let’s talk about what the hell is going on out there.

“Have the conversation we need to have with each other and discuss how do we stop it, what do we do?
They will be looking at the star players like Cleary, Latrell (Mitchell) or Reece Walsh, they are the ones that the fans pay their money to watch.

“If we lost just 10 or 12 players like them, it will leave a massive hole in our competition.
Look at the golf. Who would have thought LIV would be a threat but it is. The amount of money they have paid, we will never be able to match them if they (R360) are serious about the amount of money they have to spend.

“Where does this end for the NRL?

“The game has to address this and come up with a plan.

“We’d be foolish to suck our thumbs and hope to God it goes away.”

According to British media, R360 has acquired the necessary funding from Saudi Arabia, the UK and United States to kick-off in 2026 with aims to be profitable by 2027.
Rugby Australia successfully used its top-up payments scheme to lure rugby league stars Sailor, Tuqiri, Mat Rogers, Karmichael Hunt and Israel Folau to the 15-a-side code.
Bennett believes the NRL should consider a similar system whereby each of the 17 clubs, plus incoming franchises Perth and Papua New Guinea by 2028, nominate a marquee player to have their contracts beefed-up by League Central funding.
Bennett says the NRL, which boasted a profit of $62.3 million last year and has net assets of $320m, is now in a position to top-up the code’s true elite to stave off the R360 poaching threat.
Asked about the NRL providing financial assistance with marquee players such as Cleary and Walsh, Bennett said: “Absolutely, there’s a lot of things you can do.

“That (a NRL top-up scheme) is an option.
If we don’t sit down and talk about it and recognise these raids can happen to us, it will be too late and the stars could be gone.

“The issue here, too, is the player managers. If an agent has a player on $1 million in the NRL and he could get $3 million with rugby, it’s going to be hard to convince the player to stay in the NRL.
“I don’t know much about this R360 competition, but we are the biggest target. It won’t impact on Aussie rules or soccer, it will impact the NRL most.

“They will be coming after our best players and they’ll only be offering the big money to our best players. They won’t be chasing players 10 and 11 on an NRL roster.
When you’re going to watch someone play, you’re not going to watch 10 guys that no-one knows a lot about. You want to watch the big stars.

“And if they don’t have the stars, they’ll be taking our stars.
Do you think Payne Haas couldn’t go over to rugby tomorrow and play breakaway in rugby union? He would be a success in rugby. Our best players like Haas or Cleary would handle rugby easily.

“The one great thing about the NRL is the athletes we produce and they need athletes. They could teach them how to pick up rugby very quickly.
Let’s not forget we lost guys like Wendell, Lote Tuqiri, Mat Rogers, Karmichael Hunt, Israel Folau, they all went to rugby and they played for Australia.

“Joseph Suaalii is playing centre for the Wallabies right now - he was in the NRL last year.
Don’t think they won’t be buying them because they can’t change them, because they can.

“The game is flush with income these days, maybe we look at a plan where the game pays extra money to the best players to keep them in our game.”
V’landys says the NRL won’t be jumping at shadows amid talk of R360 chiefs descending on the Telstra Premiership like Super League recruiters operating by stealth, armed with massive contracts to defect.

“It (the R360 threat) has generated a life of its own but 50 per cent of it is fiction,” V’landys said.
Anyone can come up with these schemes.

“I’ve seen hundreds of them, but it doesn’t mean they will come to fruition.
Once they do the business models, they might say we can’t make money out of this.

“How would an NRL player like it if they (R360) went broke halfway through it?
I’m not worried at all that Nathan Cleary would go. If there was something solid, then I would be worried 24-7, but I’ve seen these schemes all the time.

“Some are credible. Some aren’t.

“Time will tell if this is credible or not.
South Sydney chief executive Blake Solly echoed the sentiments of his club coach Bennett.

“There is not a huge amount of information available about R360, or the realistic prospects of it getting started,” he said.
But we shouldn’t be complacent or lazy when it comes to any competition for the NRL.

“The ARLC, players and clubs have worked extremely hard to put the sport in such a strong position.

“We need to be alive to any threat, and make sure it’s neutralised.”
We genuises at LU solved this problem 3 pages ago.

Each team gets 2 marquee players paid outside the cap ( like they do in Super League ) ensuring we keep our top 38 players.

If we lose players 39 to 50...meh, no biggie.
 

Gobsmacked

Bench
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We genuises at LU solved this problem 3 pages ago.

Each team gets 2 marquee players paid outside the cap ( like they do in Super League ) ensuring we keep our top 38 players.

If we lose players 39 to 50...meh, no biggie.
Why don't they just top up representative salaries?
*Doesn't effect the cap
* Doesn't disadvantage any club.
* Doesn't cost clubs anything
* Financially rewards our best players
* incentivises players to play rep footy
* puts a prestige on representative games

Nathan Cleary:
Pathers $1.2 million
NSW 10% of salary per game top up ×3
360k
Australia %10 of salary per game top up ×3
360k
= 1.92 million PA

Across the board, Samoa, Fiji ect.

Obviously there's many different nuances to be added and negotiated but you get the idea.
 

taste2taste

Bench
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Why don't they just top up representative salaries?
*Doesn't effect the cap
* Doesn't disadvantage any club.
* Doesn't cost clubs anything
* Financially rewards our best players
* incentivises players to play rep footy
* puts a prestige on representative games

Nathan Cleary:
Pathers $1.2 million
NSW 10% of salary per game top up ×3
360k
Australia %10 of salary per game top up ×3
360k
= 1.92 million PA

Across the board, Samoa, Fiji ect.

Obviously there's many different nuances to be added and negotiated but you get the idea.
What if Cleary is injured and misses the rep windows ?

The money for ' marquee players' would come mostly from 3rd parties, teams have billion owners, the NRL is one of the only leagues in the world that doesnt dip into its billionare owners pockets.
 

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