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[the phantom menace]

Lol. Trump's highly public but ultimately empty meetings...

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

Lol. Trump's highly public but ultimately empty meetings...

He can’t just “wish it” gone.

Maybe you can ask Bethyl?

 

[the phantom menace]

He can’t just “wish it” gone.

My point is he's not actually doing anything with these meetings he seems to like to have.

Other than keep himself in the headlines and make it all about him - which as others have said conveniently gives him some control of headlines away from less convenient topics...

 

[Twizzle]

Held meetings with the two leaders.

Seems to be a very reasonable course of action to me.

They aren’t watching re-runs of F troop.

did that stop the war ?

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

My point is he's not actually doing anything with these meetings he seems to like to have.

Other than keep himself in the headlines and make it all about him - which as others have said conveniently gives him some control of headlines away from less convenient topics...

Unless you are familiar with the forensic details of the discussions you can’t really argue that he’s not doing anything.

You don’t really know.

He’s the US president, it’s a good thing he’s trying.

If that doesn’t suit the trump deranged syndromers, conspiracy theorists and aunt bethyl enthusiasts, too bad.

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

did that stop the war ?

It wasn’t resolving itself was it?

These are complex things that can take time.

At least he’s trying, he’s doing the right thing.

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

He’s already the most powerful person in the world, the idea that still has to run around pandering to msm etc is nonsense.

Wishing someone the worst on their efforts to stop a war is astonishing

It’s woke. It’s beyond the grave woke.

I can’t believe how cynical and negative some people are here

Very disappointing

 

[hindy111]

you've certainly got his word salad rants down pat, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery

he talks about ending the war to distract from the mess his country is in and he's "being flogged in here" as you call it, for being a f**kwit on a daily basis

As you seem to be the only one who beleives he is trying to stop the war, please enlighten me with specific actions that he has done to "try and stop the war"

The demise of America was long before Trump come onto the scene.
People's Standards of living are crashing. It is happening all over the world.

 

[hindy111]

My point is he's not actually doing anything with these meetings he seems to like to have.

Other than keep himself in the headlines and make it all about him - which as others have said conveniently gives him some control of headlines away from less convenient topics...

The media are only giving people what they want to tune into. They ain't sitting there going let's reduce audiences and put stuff on that people DONT WANT TO WATCH.
People seem obsessed with Tump.. And so they feed him to them. It isn't that hard to see.

 

[hindy111]

He’s already the most powerful person in the world, the idea that still has to run around pandering to msm etc is nonsense.

Wishing someone the worst on their efforts to stop a war is astonishing

It’s woke. It’s beyond the grave woke.

I can’t believe how cynical and negative some people are here

Very disappointing

Maybe they can't handle the fact Trump may end the war.

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

The media are only giving people what they want to tune into. They ain't sitting there going let's reduce audiences and put stuff on that people DONT WANT TO WATCH.
People seem obsessed with Tump.. And so they feed him to them. It isn't that hard to see.

That’s fair point.

People cling onto the negativity like their lives depend upon it.

Some people thrive on bad things:

 

[Gary Gutful]

He’s already the most powerful person in the world, the idea that still has to run around pandering to msm etc is nonsense.

Wishing someone the worst on their efforts to stop a war is astonishing

It’s woke. It’s beyond the grave woke.

I can’t believe how cynical and negative some people are here

Very disappointing

Meaningless, naive puffery. All you are doing is slagging off people raising questions about it and adding nothing to the conversation.

The below article is from a man who has written a biography about Trump. It quotes white house aids suggesting that Trump is seeking a “big thing” to distract from Jeffrey Epstein—and is willing to sacrifice Ukraine to achieve it:

White House Aides: Desperate Trump Will Sell Out Ukraine To Stop Epstein Talk

"I need a big thing," Trump kept telling aides, according to Michael Wolff.

crooksandliars.com

The below article also suggests its a distraction:

Everything Trump has ever done is a distraction, of course

The Demcrats won't be fooled. Every part of Trump's legislative program is a distraction from his *real* agenda.

www.crikey.com.au

I found quite a few others.

It is a perfectly legitimate argument to make given he has been the master of staying relevant and controlling the narrative (which by the way I'm not saying as a criticism - he is quite masterful).

Trump is sharp and very aware of how he is viewed. His social media posts suggest he is also quite sensitive to it given how regularly he complains about how the MSM treats him unfairly. Above all else he is a politician. Just like Biden, Obama, Clinton and Bush everything has a reason. Those merkins have also meddled in other people's wars for their own political gain, so why wouldn't Trump?

Suggesting that he is only doing this because he is filled with the milk of human kindness and criticizing anyone making alternative suggestions as "grave woke" is not an argument in good faith. I'm the opposite of woke, but can see when something seems a little manufactured and suspect.

Shame you wont open your eyes a little on this one.

 

[hindy111]

Yes it's funny cause the ones who despise him are the ones who created him by constantly clicking and sharing tiktokis videos

 

[Gary Gutful]

Maybe they can't handle the fact Trump may end the war

A potential outcome, but my concern is that he'll take the easy approach and fold to Putin.

In which case, he wont really have ended anything.

 

[hindy111]

A potential outcome, but my concern is that he'll take the easy approach and fold to Putin.

In which case, he wont really have ended anything.

C.I.A have the Epstein list. They won't release it. It's more valuable to them to be able to blackmail.

USA don't even have to help Ukraine do they? So couldn't they just say no more funding or sending anymore more weapons. Im not sure how all the side works.

 

[Gary Gutful]

C.I.A have the Epstein list. They won't release it. It's more valuable to them to be able to blackmail.

USA don't even have to help Ukraine do they? So couldn't they just say no more funding or sending anymore more weapons. Im not sure how all the side works.

Trump can ensure it is released. He campaigned on it and is now going back on his word. Some within the MAGA base are pissed off about that and I don't think he'll be able to continue to come up with distractions to get himself out of this. The cries to "release the files" will only get louder.

 

[hindy111]

If Trump does go down for it he will just deny it. Then what? Heaps of his followers would fire up thinking it's a set up. If he was thrown into gaol it would be chaos I reckon.

 

[the phantom menace]

Yes it's funny cause the ones who despise him are the ones who created him by constantly clicking and sharing tiktokis videos

Yeah... nah.

 

[hindy111]

Yeah... nah.

It's fact. Nothing to be ashamed of. He is an interesting and intelligent dude. The whole world has become obsessed with Donald Trump.

 

[Gary Gutful]

It's fact. Nothing to be ashamed of. He is an interesting and intelligent dude. The whole world has become obsessed with Donald Trump.

He's box office. The only time anyone was interested in Biden was when he tripped over or dribbled on himself.