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2025 GF | PREMIERS - Brisbane 26-22 Melbourne @ Accor

Who wins the 2025 Grand Final?


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Apey

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Bold of Madge to name two forwards on the bench in a GF

Would have thought Hunt at 9 and Vehicular Mam-slaughter at 6 was the go.
Maybe he thinks Haas can do it all himself

He could be right
 

Warrimoo3

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Some in the media were questioning why Hughes wasn’t targeted more in defence last week so I decided to revisit the tape of the game.

This is why Bellamy is an elite coach . Trying to find Hughes in the defensive line was a bit like trying to find Where’s Wally. Normally the right edge is Hughes/Meaney/Warbrick. But for the first 2 tackles in each defensive set Hughes was defending 2 in instead of 3 in, then moving to his normal position.Another defensive set he’d be on the wing for the first 2 tackles before going to his normal position of 3 in. Usually after a kick or a turnover he would defend on the wing for 2 tackles then go back to 3 in.

So in summary he was rotating his position in defence between wing, centre and half. No wonder he only had to make something like 9 tackles for the whole match.

The bad news for Brisbane is that all of Melbourne’s spine had outstanding games against the Sharks. The good news though is that the Sharks still went very close to winning. There are some areas that the Broncos can exploit which I’ll outline here.

First of all Howarth has a tendency to rush out of the defensive line and leave a yawning gap behind him. He did this twice and Katoa cashed in after a great pass from Kennedy. The other time in the 2nd half almost lead to another break. I would definitely target the channels either side of him. Walsh and Staggs are perfect for this. The space to the right of Lisati should be another target zone, maybe running an outside in line to that channel.

The Broncos should spread the ball quickly to their left early in the tackle count to target Hughes who will be stationed on the wing or 1 in . I noticed too that Warbrick drops back about 10 metres on the 2nd last tackle of the setbefore dropping right back on the last. So running it left down his corridor on the 2nd last tackle might reap rewards.

When defending their goalline Paps tends to defend in the line for the first 3 or 4 tackles so there’s a good opportunity for a grubber in goal for Staggs et al early in the set to take advantage of the open space.

From what I saw last week the Broncos have to make more of an attempt to slow the Storm’s ptb down because the Panthers had them under a lot of pressure purely by getting fast ptbs. The Broncos red zone attack was both frantic and disjointed last week. They really need to get on the same page and nail their last tackle options.

I still think the aerial attack from the Storm holds the key. I thought the Storm would go to the little dinky kick to a rampaging Coates or Warbrick time and time again last week . Maybe he’s saving it for the big dance.

Storm by 6
 

Warrimoo3

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I forgot to mention that Atkins loves giving penalties for escorts. You can set your clock by it .There will be at least 2 most likely for obstructing Coates. They get forensically examined every time. And Staggs got away with a blatant one on Coates last time these 2 teams met.
 
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Lol you assume I come from Penrith. Parra would be my ‘local team’ I suppose but I went for Panthers in ‘88 as a kindergartener because my favourite players were Peter Kelly and Greg Alexander and so I became a Panthers fan.

I’d rather Storm win though because they didn’t ruin my childhood rugby league experience like the Broncos did. In ‘91 the Panthers won the GF and had plans to keep winning but Ben died and the club fell apart and were basically crap for the next decade. Broncos took our glory with their endless rep players and non existent salary cap and I had to put up with the rest of my bloody family and extended family who live in QLD giving it to me every time Broncos beat us, which was most of the time.

Storm were cheats and beat us in 2020 but my grudge with them isn’t personal like the Broncos.

locality doesn't matter, as it's a national game now

so long as you pick one team and stick with it forever
 

Lyrebird01

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Some in the media were questioning why Hughes wasn’t targeted more in defence last week so I decided to revisit the tape of the game.

This is why Bellamy is an elite coach . Trying to find Hughes in the defensive line was a bit like trying to find Where’s Wally. Normally the right edge is Hughes/Meaney/Warbrick. But for the first 2 tackles in each defensive set Hughes was defending 2 in instead of 3 in, then moving to his normal position.Another defensive set he’d be on the wing for the first 2 tackles before going to his normal position of 3 in. Usually after a kick or a turnover he would defend on the wing for 2 tackles then go back to 3 in.

So in summary he was rotating his position in defence between wing, centre and half. No wonder he only had to make something like 9 tackles for the whole match.

The bad news for Brisbane is that all of Melbourne’s spine had outstanding games against the Sharks. The good news though is that the Sharks still went very close to winning. There are some areas that the Broncos can exploit which I’ll outline here.

First of all Howarth has a tendency to rush out of the defensive line and leave a yawning gap behind him. He did this twice and Katoa cashed in after a great pass from Kennedy. The other time in the 2nd half almost lead to another break. I would definitely target the channels either side of him. Walsh and Staggs are perfect for this. The space to the right of Lisati should be another target zone, maybe running an outside in line to that channel.

The Broncos should spread the ball quickly to their left early in the tackle count to target Hughes who will be stationed on the wing or 1 in . I noticed too that Warbrick drops back about 10 metres on the 2nd last tackle of the setbefore dropping right back on the last. So running it left down his corridor on the 2nd last tackle might reap rewards.

When defending their goalline Paps tends to defend in the line for the first 3 or 4 tackles so there’s a good opportunity for a grubber in goal for Staggs et al early in the set to take advantage of the open space.

From what I saw last week the Broncos have to make more of an attempt to slow the Storm’s ptb down because the Panthers had them under a lot of pressure purely by getting fast ptbs. The Broncos red zone attack was both frantic and disjointed last week. They really need to get on the same page and nail their last tackle options.

I still think the aerial attack from the Storm holds the key. I thought the Storm would go to the little dinky kick to a rampaging Coates or Warbrick time and time again last week . Maybe he’s saving it for the big dance.

Storm by 6
Broncos showed against Panthers that we’d rather give penalties away for blocking than allowing successful aerial raids to be carried out. That being so, the Storm will have to get us on the edges or go through us. If you take the aerial assault away from Melbourne they’re might struggle to score.
 

Warrimoo3

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As a neutral I think the NRL would get more out of a Broncos’ win. Walsh is a bona fide superstar. I can imagine the Broncos selling thousands of Broncos no 1 jerseys. Would also generate a lot of interest for the next generation of up and coming NRL fans.
 

Panther Mike

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I didn't assume anything, and where you come from isn't all that relevant I'm afraid. You were comparing cities, and Penrith is easily the worst of them.

It doesn’t seem as bad as its reputation to me, at least not the parts I have frequented. I never lived there but I did go to uni in Kingswood which is near there in and have done some work in the area.
 

Maroon4life

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Lol you assume I come from Penrith. Parra would be my ‘local team’ I suppose but I went for Panthers in ‘88 as a kindergartener because my favourite players were Peter Kelly and Greg Alexander and so I became a Panthers fan.

I’d rather Storm win though because they didn’t ruin my childhood rugby league experience like the Broncos did. In ‘91 the Panthers won the GF and had plans to keep winning but Ben died and the club fell apart and were basically crap for the next decade. Broncos took our glory with their endless rep players and non existent salary cap and I had to put up with the rest of my bloody family and extended family who live in QLD giving it to me every time Broncos beat us, which was most of the time.

Storm were cheats and beat us in 2020 but my grudge with them isn’t personal like the Broncos.

GG EZ.

Seeing your flogs in pink fold in front of 50,000 bronco fanatics was an absolute delight, will rewatch that for years to come.

Chin can f**k off to England with Fowler.
 

Someguy

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Ahhhhh yes, Klein Kampf in the Bunker where he can't manage the game the way he likes but can arguably have a bigger impact via individual decisions.

Well done NRL

Go back 4 tackles ago after a knock on to put someone on report effectively overturning the knock on
 

Panther Mike

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GG EZ.

Seeing your flogs in pink fold in front of 50,000 bronco fanatics was an absolute delight, will rewatch that for years to come.

Chin can f**k off to England with Fowler.

I don’t really care about your feelings one way or the other. If you take offence with my reasons for consistently disliking the Broncos whether they win the comp or come last, then that is your issue.
 
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Warrimoo3

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Predictions:

Opening points from a penalty goal

Tries to Warbrick/Coates/Paps/Katoa for Storm

Tries to Staggs//Mariner/Walsh for Broncos

MOTM Munster or Paps

Storm by 6
 

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