New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

[Gobsmacked]

That's Gould having no idea about NZ really.

Why do you think a second Auckland side will be successful?

I think NZ expansion looks a lot like Queensland. Broncos in Brisbane ( Warriors in Auckland) then Townsville ( Christchurch) Gold Coast ( Wellington)
Dolphins ( second Auckland club).

Doubling up in your main city isn't needed until all expansion options have been exhausted.

With the size of the NRL already, it'll be a long time until we will be thinking NZ needs more than 2 clubs

 

[Éamonn an Chnoic]

Christchurch is surely next

 

[Wb1234]

In order if league really takes off

1. Christchurch (games in Dunedin and other South Island towns)

2. Wellington (Napier palmerstone north etc)

3. Hamilton (taranaki etc)

If the old north harbour stadium had remained then maybe a team out of there but two teams at mt smart or even one at Eden park is just stupid

Warriors can start taking their bigger games to Eden park to cater for crowd growth

 

[Wb1234]

181k watched the grand final in nz

 

[Matua]

181k watched the grand final in nz

In all honesty that seems really low for NZ, I thought the GF would have way higher viewership than that.

 

[Matua]

2. Wellington (Napier

Stuff that, I'd like us to go with the Hamilton team or stay with the Warriors instead of Wellington.

 

[parrawentyfan]

That's Gould having no idea about NZ really.

Why do you think a second Auckland side will be successful?

I was being a little flippant. As I said I don't really agree with him that the second team should be in Auckland. Other cities without a team are better options.

But Auckland is not far off 2 million people and with time and consolidation I think there is space for a second team there. Ideally you'd want something to differentiate them from the Warriors in terms of geography / stadium or something (and not along race lines hopefully). If there were no other better options then we would probably be looking at a second team in Auckland.

 

[Diesel]

In all honesty that seems really low for NZ, I thought the GF would have way higher viewership than that.

Kickoff at 10pm and work the next day

 

[jolly boys outing]

Warriors will love the second team to be in Auckland …

haha

Part of me wants NZ2 to be based in Auckland based purely out of spite for the warriors opposition to a 2nd New Zealand NRL franchise.

NZ2 should infact be based in Christchurch.

 

[flippikat]

Kickoff at 10pm and work the next day

Precisely this.

I'm lucky to have a job that lets me take "Ultimate Mad Monday" off every year - and I've done that every year since night Grand Finals started.

If you don't have that luxury, it's a tough slog to stay up to midnight on a Sunday.

 

[Wb1234]

Precisely this.

I'm lucky to have a job that lets me take "Ultimate Mad Monday" off every year - and I've done that every year since night Grand Finals started.

If you don't have that luxury, it's a tough slog to stay up to midnight on a Sunday.

One thing nsw does well it’s a public holiday here

Don’t know what for either

 

[Matua]

One thing nsw does well it’s a public holiday here

Don’t know what for either

I only found out about the Monday holiday on Thursday this week. But I work my own hours so I often don't know when the public holidays are outside of Xmas/NY.

Part of me wants NZ2 to be based in Auckland based purely out of spite for the warriors opposition to a 2nd New Zealand NRL franchise.

NZ2 should infact be based in Christchurch.

I understand that, but in the context of this thread it seems like a pretty low number to me, I thought it would be higher than that. Has NZ turned into a nation of grandpas all going to bed at 9pm?

 

[RL The greatest game]

What NZ.2 will also do is finally kill off any hopes of the afl putting a club there, and that was light years away at best if ever.

 

[Matua]

What NZ.2 will also do is finally kill off any hopes of the afl putting a club there, and that was light years away at best if ever.

I don't think that was something realistic to worry about. AFL is a very niche sport in NZ.

 

[Dark Corner]

Precisely this.

I'm lucky to have a job that lets me take "Ultimate Mad Monday" off every year - and I've done that every year since night Grand Finals started.

If you don't have that luxury, it's a tough slog to stay up to midnight on a Sunday.

Same for me and I live in England just watched at night with drink and dinner and get away from the internet for scoreline.

 

[Bobby DIGital]

I don't think that was something realistic to worry about. AFL is a very niche sport in NZ.

Laurie Daley is my favourite ever player, but a few years ago he said Dustin Martin was the buggest sport star in New Zealand outside of the All Blacks. I damn near fell off my chair. Adesanya? Williamson? Adams? Ko?

http://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl...0/news-story/0e830a086150dca38cd0cc0c6dd24910

 

[Manurewa_Marlins]

I only found out about the Monday holiday on Thursday this week. But I work my own hours so I often don't know when the public holidays are outside of Xmas/NY.


I understand that, but in the context of this thread it seems like a pretty low number to me, I thought it would be higher than that. Has NZ turned into a nation of grandpas all going to bed at 9pm?

I think NZ expansion looks a lot like Queensland. Broncos in Brisbane ( Warriors in Auckland) then Townsville ( Christchurch) Gold Coast ( Wellington)
Dolphins ( second Auckland club).

Doubling up in your main city isn't needed until all expansion options have been exhausted.

With the size of the NRL already, it'll be a long time until we will be thinking NZ needs more than 2 clubs

Christchurch
Hamilton
Auckland 2

Wellington would need a new stadium with a roof first, weather is horrendous.

Super Rugby doesn't draw there. NPC take their games to Porirua. A League play in the summer.

 

[Matua]

Laurie Daley is my favourite ever player, but a few years ago he said Dustin Martin was the buggest sport star in New Zealand outside of the All Blacks. I damn near fell off my chair. Adesanya? Williamson? Adams? Ko?

http://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl...0/news-story/0e830a086150dca38cd0cc0c6dd24910

Sheesh, what is Laurie smoking, and he was my favourite Aussie player of the 90s, Martin would be unknown to many sports fans in NZ.

 

[mongoose]

Laurie Daley is my favourite ever player, but a few years ago he said Dustin Martin was the buggest sport star in New Zealand outside of the All Blacks. I damn near fell off my chair. Adesanya? Williamson? Adams? Ko?

http://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl...0/news-story/0e830a086150dca38cd0cc0c6dd24910

Someone must have offered him money to say that lol why the f**k would Dustin Martin be big in NZ?

 

[flippikat]

Christchurch
Hamilton
Auckland 2

Wellington would need a new stadium with a roof first, weather is horrendous.

Super Rugby doesn't draw there. NPC take their games to Porirua. A League play in the summer.

Nope..

Christchurch
then Wellington
then Hamilton

Spreads the teams out, and catchments would be similar to Super Rugby, with the Christchurch covering the whole South Island like the Womens Super Rugby team does.