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T-Boon

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A bunch of grandmothers walking through a public building taking selfies is not an "insurrection".
It was a lot worse than this but still a massive beat up by the deranged.
3 people died which is always awful, but they converged on the appropriate target rather than mum and dad businesses and homes like during those BLM riots (which was a better cause than Trump's one but way worse in every other sense).
 

lucablight

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A bunch of grandmothers walking through a public building taking selfies is not an "insurrection".

On the other hand, BLM burning, looting, and murdering in major cities to 'memoralise' a criminal drug addict and declaring 'autonomous zones' where police couldn't enter for a large part of 2020 was most certainly an insurrection.

It is also insurrection when tinpot state and municipal officials attempt to impede federal law enforcement from enforcing federal laws. Illinois and Oregon are currently engaged in insurrection right now.
What are you talking about bro? Go and look at the Wikipedia page for January 6 United States capitol attack so you can educate yourself instead of just parroting whatever you heard on Fox/Sky news.
 

Gary Gutful

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Barrons.com is fake news

Donald Trump GIF by PBS News
 

T-Boon

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Another thing I advocate for besides sports rule change is having a politics fast day each week. Actually, for me it is 6 politics fast days sometimes 7. At least try for 3.
Add to that a social media / technology fast day every second day.

That is good advice.
 

King-Gutho94

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Yes, the left just held a protest against peace​

There is an uncanny sense that the people who claim to care the most about Palestine are the least happy that the bombs have stopped falling on it

And so the unthinkable has happened, something that even just weeks ago few even dared dream of: There is peace between Israel and Palestine.
The people of Israel are happy, the people of Palestine are happy, the Arab states are happy, the biggest Muslim nation is happy, Australia is happy, the whole world is happy.

Except for just one group of people.

And that is of course the same old group of activists and protesters who were out again on Sunday protesting against … er, what was it again?

The ceasefire?

The release of the Israeli hostages?

The freeing of the Palestinian prisoners? The amnesty for Palestinian fighters?

The unlocking of all aid to Gaza?

The withdrawal of the Israeli Defence Force from Gaza?

The investment of international finance into Gaza?

The banning of Hamas involvement in Palestinian politics?

Or perhaps they object to the part of the peace plan where Donald Trump promises to give Gaza a favourable tariff deal? (Yes, that’s actually in there.)

So seriously, what the @#$% are these numpties actually protesting against?

Maybe they are protesting against Trump not getting the Nobel Peace Prize after delivering the very thing they have been bleating about for years: The release of all the aid, the withdrawal of the IDF, a pathway to Palestinian statehood.

But they were strangely unenthused by that particular cause.

In fact there is an uncanny sense that the people who claim to care the most about Palestine are the least happy that the bombs have stopped falling on it.

And that is of course because it was never about Palestine. It was always about the protest.

Something to be angry about, something to be virtuous about, something to show off that you knew more about than everybody else — especially Donald Trump.

Indeed, there seems to be an acute sense of shock and disappointment among the supposedly pro-Palestinian crowd that Trump’s plan to save Palestinians has actually worked.

And so they are now tying themselves in knots to find something new to protest about just so they can, well, protest.

Even after the Australian government moved to officially recognise Palestine they kept protesting because suddenly it wasn’t about recognition but sanctioning Israel.

Yes, punishing Israel was more important than Palestinian statehood. Again, a very odd position for people who are supposedly pro-Palestinian.

And now, even as the peace deal is proceeding and the prisoners and hostages are being exchanged, they are scrambling for new excuses.

Accompanied by the random dog’s vomit of blurted out words like “genocide” and “apartheid” are these straws in the wind just waiting to be grasped: One, that Israel can’t be trusted to abide by the deal.

So they are protesting against something that hasn’t actually happened but they think might happen. OK then.

Two, that it’s not actually about the past two years at all but about the previous decades of occupation and oppression.

So why did they only start the weekly protests two years ago? Oh that’s right, because of the October 7 terror attack which inspired an instant flash protest – against its victims.

Three, that Israel’s war on Gaza is only possible because Australia is secretly selling it stuff that can be used to make weapons.

Yes, Australia’s famous booming trade relationship with Israel is really to blame, including our renowned arms manufacturing capability.

Apparently while publicly lambasting our government for being too pro-Palestine, Benjamin Netanyahu is secretly thanking Yahweh that we are privately propping up the Israeli war effort.

And yes, the war effort that has just stopped under the peace deal.

And here’s the real kicker: The only reason there is a peace deal is because Hamas has agreed to it.

All of these things have been determined to be good enough for both Israel and its proscribed terrorist enemy to agree to but it’s still not good enough for a bunch of Australian socialists who like painting placards.

Again, let’s just fully process that: These Trots are now even more on the fringe of the Israel-Palestine conflict than Hamas.

It really is bonkers stuff but the good news is it reveals in glorious 4K resolution just how utterly deluded, utterly irrelevant and utterly disingenuous these people really are.

The truly great news is that there now really is hope for the suffering of the Palestinian people to end and the future prospect of a Palestinian state that can live in peace next to Israel.

And of course it had nothing to do with the protesters. That is why they protest still.

 
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In case the current Israeli government (or their supporters) wonder why peace might be a hard thing to agree or achieve, the impact of their actions over the past two years might shed some light.


About time Trump told Bibi to keep his dick in his pants - here's hoping Netanyahu can do so without flopping himself out for another fiddle.
 

Bandwagon

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What did you think of Wong’s comments about Trump? Did you lose a bit of respect for her?

I get that we need to be diplomatic but I was surprised at how glowing she was.

The world has worked out you either stroke Trumps ego, or you get f**king nowhere. So you swallow your pride and suck it up.

Orange lips all round.
 

Bandwagon

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Hi resignation after next year's mid-term elections on health grounds (and for Republican succession planning) must be getting imminent? Trump trying real hard to concoct some sort of legacy, amidst the domestic rabble he'll be leaving to his successor/s.

He won't resign, he's that f**ked in the head he literally believes his own shit.
 

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