Rumours and Stuff

[hineyrulz]

If Ben Hunt won a comp at 40 years of age no reason why Moses can’t.

And Benny Hunt couldn't organise a root i in a brothel. Walsh carried them over the line.

 

[RealdEel]

Yep, reserve grader. If he doesn’t want to be a backup, the Super League is the place for him.

Wtf is going on?

Gone for sure. He is too good for reserve grade and there is a lot of demand for halves now.

 

[T-Boon]

As much as Panthers are my 2nd team too you have to be objective and admit on sheer raw halfback talent Moses is streets ahead of Cleary.

Cleary is a generational "systems" player whereas Moses is an all-round deadset 7 with speed, deception and change of pace.

We're watching NRL in an era where systems have eliminated pure raw talent in most positions, it's all about height, speed and endurance with the game narrowed down to left and right side players, everyone in their lane and Cleary is the greatest halfback of this new era.

But on historic rugby league metrics Moses is a generational player. Our hope is that Ryles and co can form the system to allow his elite talent to bring us a premiership in 2026.

My rule change campaign has been largely about trying to correct this in an awesome way.

 

[Parrapat]

Hands off the books

Merci beaucoup monsieur les mains!

J’ai toujours pensé que tu étais un joueur sous-estimé. J’espère que vous trouverez le succès en France.

 

[Parrapat]

My rule change campaign has been largely about trying to correct this in an awesome way.

Systems coaching has its founder in Warren Ryan. Roy Masters, to a certain limited extent was a fore runner but from Ryan onwards we have the Bennett and then Bellamy explosion into the breakdown of the game into controlling and destroying the opposition's the play the ball.

The only counter to this control has been the NRL's surreptitious determination of the "type" of refereeing given a format of game.

So for finals, and state of origin the game is refereed a certain way to bring the optimal outcome in terms of whatever ratings the NRL and its partners hope to achieve.

In the regular season Scum are allowed to get away with blue murder, just as the maroons are allowed in SOO literally.

A rule change to bring the game back to some parity of athleticism in the service of a system vs raw football talent would be most welcome, T-Boon!

 

[Parrapat]

Anasta said on his podcast we got him cheaper then his Storm deal which was 500k

Nice!

 

[T-Boon]

A rule change to bring the game back to some parity of athleticism in the service of a system vs raw football talent would be most welcome, T-Boon!

I'll put together a paper with my best ideas.

 

[Parrapat]

And Benny Hunt couldn't organise a root i in a brothel. Walsh carried them over the line.

Refused to watch the game but that's certainly what I gleaned from the highlights and stats.

 

[viole02]

From what I’ve seen of both, Pezet has more upside than Volkman (obviously) and would at the very least be level pegging with him right now.

He provides cover for Moses, especially if Footy Dean is on his way to SL.

I’m not convinced he’s going to be elite. Broncos supporting mates of mine are a mix between excited, to a few of them calling him Brodie Croft Mk II.

Agreed pezet has way higher potential than any of our current halves however we wont get to reap the benefits of that potential and currently hes only slightly better if at all better than our current guys. Look i guess if hawkins is gone having some more halves depth isnt the worst thing in the world. Anyways if hes confirmed then no use me bitching about it any longer

 

[TheCrowe]

So the spin that we always just wanted him for a year so we didn't block pathways was just BS coverup that we got outplayed by the Broncos. No surprise there.

 

[85 Baby]

You mean like winning more than this year? It's pretty simplistic. How about just measuring Pezet's output against any alternatives we have in the roster? Again, we won't be able to compare them within the same year, unless they play an equal number of games (in which case the samples would be too small).

I get it though. I work in a bureaucracy too, where we have to pretend everything is measurable. Because science.

People can’t know their goals and they can’t even set their own simple goals because he won’t be here long enough to be judged, so in turn the management can’t be judged on it…. And you wonder why people are questioning it. Really instils the faith that they’ll review the decision making process that led to it.

 

[Parrapat]

So the spin that we always just wanted him for a year so we didn't block pathways was just BS coverup that we got outplayed by the Broncos. No surprise there.

I'm failing to see how we lose on this deal. We are a genuine premiership threat next year if we can get some elite forward pack signings and if Pezet sees his future in QLD we're buying time for our juniors to come through after losing Talagi thanks to Brad Arthurs' nepotism.

 

[Timana]

Need to watch this poddy

Anasta said we got him cheap for the calibre we are getting.

 

[TheCrowe]

I'm failing to see how we lose on this deal. We are a genuine premiership threat next year if we can get some elite forward pack signings and if Pezet sees his future in QLD we're buying time for our juniors to come through after losing Talagi thanks to Brad Arthurs' nepotism.

Then why are Parra lying about what actually happened? We offered him 3 years straight from Anastas mouth but Brisbane jumped in and beat us out. He wants to play for Brisbane. They get the benefit of us developing him in first grade for a year. Ryles is going to take heat for this. No point trying to cover up. Just own it.

 

[Parrapat]

Then why are Parra lying about what actually happened? We offered him 3 years straight from Anastas mouth but Brisbane jumped in and beat us out. He wants to play for Brisbane. They get the benefit of us developing him in first grade for a year. Ryles is going to take heat for this. No point trying to cover up. Just own it.

We get the benefit of winning the comp next year with the best NRL spine meanwhile we develop our juniors for a dynasty of premiership glory!

What's not to like?!

 

[T-Boon]

He wants to play for Brisbane. They get the benefit of us developing him in first grade for a year. Ryles is going to take heat for this. No point trying to cover up. Just own it.

Growing up (when I was a real player) I loved this scenario. I always saw it as "I am ruin her for the next guy". That is the way to look at it.

"You go Boon you don't go back".

 

[Lemon Squash]

Anasta confirmed that we DID try and get him on a long term deal and they chose to go to Brisbane instead from 27.

I don’t blame Anasta or Pezet for a second for choosing Brisbane long term, that’s a no brainer really.

I do blame our club for thinking it’s fine that after hearing that fact that we were still willing to offer him a contract for 12 months in between, regardless if we are paying him $1m or a pie and Coke.

That is just f**king embarrassing and makes us look like a second rate.

I rate Ryles and I think he has been a tremendous addition to our club but I can’t help but think he’s let his relationship with Pezet get in the way of what is the correct decision here.

I stand with my opinion that unless we somehow snag a comp with Pezet then we get absolutely no benefit from this.

Hypothetically what if Pezet comes out next year and absolutely kills it, we come top 4 and we make a prelim or something similar, yep woohoo we’ve had a good year…. but how will we all feel that he is then leaving and we go into the next season with an unproven rookie at 6? Not to mention they will have huge pressure on them to back up what Pezet produced.

If Pezet comes out and is ordinary then realistically were we any worse of giving Joash more of an opportunity?

 

[Zoso]

So we offered more coin to both Galvin and Pezet but lost because our sales pitches were inferior?
I’m not buying it.

 

[Parrapat]

Growing up (when I was a real player) I loved this scenario. I always saw it as "I am ruin her for the next guy". That is the way to look at it.

Lol so true!

 

[Parrapat]

So we offered more coin to both Galvin and Pezet but lost because our sales pitches were inferior?
I’m not buying it.

Exactly. These bitches are getting hysterical.