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BuffaloRules

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You’ve changed your tune from when the bid was being discussed slagging png as being a basket case and how players would love going to Perth

Are u turns like that legal in wa ?

I must admit … I can’t recall him mentioning the need for concessions for Perth “all along”…I thought the road to success was gunna be guaranteed once they gave them the green light …

I know whose fault it will be if things don’t work out though … he has three initials in his name starting with P and ending in L..
 

EuroNymous

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EXCLUSIVE | Foxtel’s AFL deal cost billions. Now its owner wants to pay less – and it has form [Sam McClure]

The owner of Foxtel, the AFL’s major broadcast partner, believes it is paying too much for the rights following its decision to pull the plug on a second domestic soccer deal in Europe over financial concerns.

Two senior media industry sources, who requested anonymity to discuss contractual matters, said Foxtel’s British owner, sports streaming giant DAZN, felt it was over-paying for a domestic product with limited scope for subscription growth, and could seek to claw back money from the agreement.

DAZN, which bought Foxtel for an enterprise value of $3.4 billion last December, inherited the AFL rights for which Seven and Foxtel paid a combined $4.5 billion over seven years, to 2031. Previous reports put Foxtel’s contribution at about $418 million a year, or almost $3 billion in total.

Five senior sports industry sources said it was widely accepted that Foxtel had been pushed to its upper limits after a massive offer from Paramount that would have yielded $6 billion over 10 years.

AFL lawyer and media executive Jeff Browne, also the ex-Collingwood president, has been briefed on DAZN’s position, according to two other media sources.

But Browne said he had not been approached to represent DAZN’s interests in potential talks with the league.

Browne was recently a contender to succeed Richard Goyder as chair of the AFL Commission, but withdrew his candidacy. The commission last month endorsed former Geelong president Craig Drummond to step into the role when Goyder leaves in March.

DAZN this week terminated an €83 million-a-season ($148 million) deal with the Belgian Pro-League, less than 12 months after its agreement with the French Ligue 1 collapsed.

DAZN had been unable to find distribution channels for its Belgian coverage.

“No company should be forced to operate at a loss,” DAZN Belgium managing director Massimo D’Amario said in a statement. “That’s simply not a sustainable business.”

The streaming company had previously tried to renegotiate the French contract, which was worth €400 million a year for six years, after disappointing subscription numbers and issues with piracy.

A Foxtel Group spokesperson did not address specific questions from this masthead on whether the company would try to renegotiate the AFL deal, and referred questions about DAZN to the UK company.

“The AFL has been a valued broadcast partner of Foxtel Group for more than 25 years. The 2025 season marked the beginning of a new era in our partnership and delivered our highest-ever season viewership,” the spokesperson said.

“There have been no discussions on changes to our contract with the AFL, and we look forward to delivering live, 4K coverage of every game, of every round for many years to come.”

The 2025 season was the first in the new AFL media deal.

The NRL’s $1.7 billion agreement with Foxtel and Nine, owner of this masthead, expires in 2027.

DAZN is majority owned by Ukrainian-born, American-educated billionaire Sir Leonard (Len) Blavatnik.

Last month Blavatnik injected $891 million into DAZN, after the company posted a substantial financial loss. His company, Access Industries, has invested more than $11 billion into DAZN in the past decade.

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Two sources who were part of negotiations for the AFL deal, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the confidential nature of the discussions, said Foxtel executives had been under pressure to ink the agreement before taking Foxtel to market for sale, which had meant the league had additional leverage.
 
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The owner of Foxtel, the AFL’s major broadcast partner, believes it is paying too much for the rights following its decision to pull the plug on a second domestic soccer deal in Europe over financial concerns.
Two senior media industry sources, who requested anonymity to discuss contractual matters, said Foxtel’s British owner, sports streaming giant DAZN, felt it was over-paying for a domestic product with limited scope for subscription growth, and could seek to claw back money from the agreement.
DAZN, which bought Foxtel for an enterprise value of $3.4 billion last December, inherited the AFL rights for which Seven and Foxtel paid a combined $4.5 billion over seven years, to 2031. Previous reports put Foxtel’s contribution at about $418 million a year, or almost $3 billion in total.
Five senior sports industry sources said it was widely accepted that Foxtel had been pushed to its upper limits after a massive offer from Paramount that would have yielded $6 billion over 10 years.
AFL lawyer and media executive Jeff Browne, also the ex-Collingwood president, has been briefed on DAZN’s position, according to two other media sources.
But Browne said he had not been approached to represent DAZN’s interests in potential talks with the league.
Browne was recently a contender to succeed Richard Goyder as chair of the AFL Commission, but withdrew his candidacy. The commission last month endorsed former Geelong president Craig Drummond to step into the role when Goyder leaves in March.
DAZN this week terminated an €83 million-a-season ($148 million) deal with the Belgian Pro-League, less than 12 months after its agreement with the French Ligue 1 collapsed.
DAZN had been unable to find distribution channels for its Belgian coverage.
“No company should be forced to operate at a loss,” DAZN Belgium managing director Massimo D’Amario said in a statement. “That’s simply not a sustainable business.”
The streaming company had previously tried to renegotiate the French contract, which was worth €400 million a year for six years, after disappointing subscription numbers and issues with piracy.
A Foxtel Group spokesperson did not address specific questions from this masthead on whether the company would try to renegotiate the AFL deal, and referred questions about DAZN to the UK company.
“The AFL has been a valued broadcast partner of Foxtel Group for more than 25 years. The 2025 season marked the beginning of a new era in our partnership and delivered our highest-ever season viewership,” the spokesperson said.
“There have been no discussions on changes to our contract with the AFL, and we look forward to delivering live, 4K coverage of every game, of every round for many years to come.”
The 2025 season was the first in the new AFL media deal.
The NRL’s $1.7 billion agreement with Foxtel and Nine, owner of this masthead, expires in 2027.
DAZN is majority owned by Ukrainian-born, American-educated billionaire Sir Leonard (Len) Blavatnik.
Last month Blavatnik injected $891 million into DAZN, after the company posted a substantial financial loss. His company, Access Industries, has invested more than $11 billion into DAZN in the past decade.
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Two sources who were part of negotiations for the AFL deal, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the confidential nature of the discussions, said Foxtel executives had been under pressure to ink the agreement before taking Foxtel to market for sale, which had meant the league had additional leverage.

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They can’t afford to pay the nrl what they pay the afl, the nrl won’t take less than the afl, so DAZN have to reduce the afl deal or risk losing the nrl, which they can’t afford to do either. The afl have been desperately trying to convince DAZN of their value with all the nonsense copycat initiatives they’re bringing in.
 

Wb1234

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Foxtel is paying afl 418 million pa for their tv rights

The current nrl competition smashes the afl numbers on Foxtel

Then you have to factor in two or three more expansion teams plus pacific cup and women’s game

Foxtel is currently paying nrl around 200 million so they obviously need to find a lot of money

You would think Foxtel would need to pay 450 to 500 million for the pay tv rights

Especially if they allow simulcast of origin

The future for afl tv deals looks bleak the bubble has burst
 

BuffaloRules

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If the NRL goes elsewhere ..this 3 Billion dollar asset this Ukrainian Billionaire just bought, is left with one apparently overpriced deal it has to fund another 6 years whilst it bleeds customers ….

I’m sure due diligence was done and they could work out the profitability of the AFL deal at that time before the purchase was completed

This Situation smells a bit to me
 
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I’m sure due diligence was done
Yeah and their due diligence obviously stinks, given that they`ve already canned two other deals that weren`t meeting expectations. Blavatnik has been throwing round money like a drunken sailor trying to create his `Netflix of Sport`, I think he is realising that as long as there is other big streamers there is no way he can dominate the market.
Those other deals were canned/renegotiated because of not meeting certain promised numbers, not sure if the fumbles would have made any promises on subscriber growth, if they didn`t I wonder under what pretext DAZN would look to break the contract.
 

BuffaloRules

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Yeah and their due diligence obviously stinks, given that they`ve already canned two other deals that weren`t meeting expectations. Blavatnik has been throwing round money like a drunken sailor trying to create his `Netflix of Sport`, I think he is realising that as long as there is other big streamers there is no way he can dominate the market.
Those other deals were canned/renegotiated because of not meeting certain promised numbers, not sure if the fumbles would have made any promises on subscriber growth, if they didn`t I wonder under what pretext DAZN would look to break the contract.

They were able to walk away from the other two deals … that shows me actually they were smart there and the due diligence was fine…

Unless there is a similar scenario with his deal ?
 

The_Wookie

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The_Wookie

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Yeah and their due diligence obviously stinks, given that they`ve already canned two other deals that weren`t meeting expectations. Blavatnik has been throwing round money like a drunken sailor trying to create his `Netflix of Sport`, I think he is realising that as long as there is other big streamers there is no way he can dominate the market.
Those other deals were canned/renegotiated because of not meeting certain promised numbers, not sure if the fumbles would have made any promises on subscriber growth, if they didn`t I wonder under what pretext DAZN would look to break the contract.

The Ligue 1 contract fell over because of disagreements on both sides - LFP highlighted that it had yet to receive half of its remaining instalments which the global streaming platform withheld, causing a legal dispute since the start of 2025. DAZN argued that the LFP was failing in its collaboration with the platform to fight piracy and illegal streaming of its Ligue 1 broadcasts, which ultimately saw the LFP take legal action against DAZN.

In Belgium it fell over because DAZN couldnt get the price they wanted from broadcasters - there had been friction between DAZN and the professional clubs because DAZN couldn't find a "viable deal" with telecom operators like Telenet and Proximus and was willing to pay less than the agreed-upon €84 million for the TV contract.

This is Nine, citing anonymous sources all over the place, likely doing its usual "lets see if we can drop the price" reporting.
 

BuffaloRules

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Starkers

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If Paramount is still there, the backstop for AFL isn't much of a haircut, they'll be fine.

If Paramount were to go for the NRL instead, leaving DAZN with AFL and Cricket, it might trigger an exit or a reduction for AFL, but in that scenario it's hard seeing 7West work with 9/Stan.

All this while the AFL is likely to add a 19th team, reducing net revenue % share.

Interesting times ahead.
 
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